Simulation theory and have we reset before like a game?

a reply to: Xtrozero

I think our timeline is wrong. I’m sure I read somewhere that we’ve been around for 250,000 years when they’ve looked into our DNA. Can’t remember where I read that now but it didn’t get anymore research as it goes against everything our history states.

originally posted by: G1111B1234


I think our timeline is wrong. I’m sure I read somewhere that we’ve been around for 250,000 years when they’ve looked into our DNA. Can’t remember where I read that now but it didn’t get anymore research as it goes against everything our history states.

We been around for 500,000 years. Modern humans about 100,000 years. That hasn't changed, but it doesn't mean we had anything past hunter/gatherer Stoneage for most of it. Things didn't change much until 15,000 years ago.

originally posted by: G1111B1234


I think our timeline is wrong. I’m sure I read somewhere that we’ve been around for 250,000 years when they’ve looked into our DNA. Can’t remember where I read that now but it didn’t get anymore research as it goes against everything our history states.

We been around for 500,000 years. Modern humans about 100,000 years. That hasn't changed, but it doesn't mean we had anything past hunter/gatherer Stoneage for most of it. Things didn't change much until 15,000 years ago.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Thing is I don’t believe we evolved from the hunter gatherers we’ve been told. I don’t agree that suddenly we were just figuring out fire and then we had civilisations with laws, maths and building great buildings.
Somewhere there is lost evidence throughout the years that I don’t think we’d ever find.

Firstly let's get religion out of the picture. Virtually all religions are a form of control ie., our religion is the correct one and all the others false. Then, do as we say or (fit in any religious punishment here) you will go to hell. Where is hell? Well according to the bible (contradicting itself again) Hell is the Earth because when Jesus went into the desert (40 days and 40 nights) the devil appeared and tempted him by saying (don't hold me to it go and read yourselves) "if you follow me all this will be yours" and in say indicated with his hands all the Earth. Ergo Hell is the Earth.
There is no doubt that there have been other civilizations before the modern era, there is archaeological evidence for them. But did they have technology more advanced than ours, That is the ultimate discussion. Resets, meh, it's just Earths natural disasters, not planned, just natural. Yes they can be cataclysmic for the sufferers and in their words "their whole world changes, but that's their whole world not THE whole world.
Where the confusion comes from is the accounts of the world floods because different religions acknowledge it from different parts of the world as their flood, but it has absolutely nothing to do with religion.

PS. It's happened a couple of times ie. ice ages. This has been proven time and again. Masses of water gets locked in the ice caps, lowers the overall sea levels exposing millions of square miles of land. Now it's only the last ice age we can talk about because the ones happened before any documentation, so we have religions (Myths/Documentations etc.) relating the floods. Now why devastating? Because at the last melting man was still in the hunter gatherers stage and the most productive food source was the sea. So man builds his towns/villages/cities by the sea on what will become underwater when the icecaps melt. The ice melts and the global sea level rises considerable hence flood myths.

originally posted by: G1111B1234

Thing is I don’t believe we evolved from the hunter gatherers we’ve been told. I don’t agree that suddenly we were just figuring out fire and then we had civilisations with laws, maths and building great buildings.
Somewhere there is lost evidence throughout the years that I don’t think we’d ever find.

So, did they start as hunter/gatherer? You are playing the chicken or egg question here. In the end, someone started with nothing even if you suggest we are 5th gen of humans, so if someone had to start with nothing then why not us?

It flows pretty damn good with farming and domestication of animals to kick it off and then the advancement of writing really fired it up. The reality was we didn't really grow until we got to the point of larger population developments and a little more freedom of time to where we are not just surviving 24/7.

a reply to: Xtrozero

If it was a simulation then it could have started at any point they wanted.
How would we get the information to know who to build such amazing structures etc ?
Like how I don’t believe in the Big Bang as you don’t start from nothing to suddenly having atoms to be compressed so much to create the Big Bang, there must of been something first.
The chicken and egg answer is the chicken must have produced the egg for it to be laid.

a reply to: Xtrozero

There is no evidence... we have evidence that some pelolithic people were living perfectly fine throughout the last ice age and into the age of thawing all over Europe and Asia.

The only drastic changes that people saw were where people lived in flood plane areas like Mesopotamia, which is exactly where "agriculture" would you expect for a rapid change in human societies to happen.

originally posted by: G1111B1234

The chicken and egg answer is the chicken must have produced the egg for it to be laid.

Where did the chicken come from then? The true answer is neither came first....

We only know what is inside the reality of our universe, we do not know what is outside. If it is a simulation when who created the simulation, and who created the simulation for the ones who created our simulation, and why...who cares. This whole simulation thing also conveniently puts us in the center of it all like we are special, seems we are reverting back a few 1000 years to when humans thought we were the center of the universe.

The two big concepts we cannot understand are infinity and no time. Our universe is finite and has time so that is what we know.

originally posted by: strongfp

There is no evidence... we have evidence that some pelolithic people were living perfectly fine throughout the last ice age and into the age of thawing all over Europe and Asia.

The only drastic changes that people saw were where people lived in flood plane areas like Mesopotamia, which is exactly where "agriculture" would you expect for a rapid change in human societies to happen.

You missed my first word "if". I was pointing out that if there was something like an asteroid event a lost civilization wouldn't have been more advanced than us 3000 to 4000 years ago. You say there is no proof, but there is proof of things that do not fit the current viewpoints. We pushed humans in the Americas from the long standing 13,000 years ago to over 21,000 years ago, and that fits perfectly in there could have been earlier groups more advance 21,000 years ago then current groups 4000 years ago.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I respectably disagree with you, our universe in infinite and time is an illusion.
Something would has to lay the egg for the egg to be there. This is my point, so many concepts have holes in the ideologies yet so many believe them.
I feel as the universe in infinite , then all possibilities are true and false at the same time.
The only theory I feel comes close is the simulation theory as this would give every possibility to be true and false.
I’ve never felt special or feel we’re special, we’re very much a tiny species who knows very little and to question things is to try and find some form of truth.

originally posted by: G1111B1234
Something would has to lay the egg for the egg to be there. This is my point, so many concepts have holes in the ideologies yet so many believe them.

That is only true if there was an exact beginning for a chicken, but with evolution, there is no exact start and so neither came first.

a reply to: Xtrozero

There would have been something to have laid an egg. I’ve had many conversations about this with many philosophy students years ago.

originally posted by: G1111B1234

There would have been something to have laid an egg. I’ve had many conversations about this with many philosophy students years ago.

But was it a chicken?

a reply to: G1111B1234

Sure there have been resets in our planetary system. They just take 100 Million years or so to reconstitute. It isn't just flipping a switch off and on.

Here's a video:

Transcript from 18:24:

but I want to acknowledge something else first if you take the time to explore all of these subclades we just talked about along with their contemporaries you'll see that in the middle Permian there was a profound proliferation, many different varieties emerged of all types.

They were part of their own ecosystem like we have today, but where all the parts were played by the wrong actors. They had their own versions of cattle herds, several of them, and of wolves and they had their own form of gophers or moles and of hippos too, a few of them, as well and of bison or Buffalo maybe a rhino. Not sure with that one but they had a lot of large lumbering beasts. They even had their own form of elephants and of course their own form of lions, as well.

The middle to late Permian was a whole other world, with different plants, different trees, different fish, and way different bugs than we're used to. And their version of crocodiles, or what looked like crocodiles, were actually massive man-eating salamanders, and their version of whales were an inexplicable sort of giant shark. They even had their own form of flying squirrels, nothing like birds yet, though not yet and and and at least there weren't any mosquitoes.

After mass extinction events, it takes 10s of millions of years to get things back up and running again, but different species; but strangely similar structures and functionality.

Once humans terraform the planet to where it no longer supports humans, in what, 150 years or so? It could take 20 million years for the next apex planet rulers to emerge. Or maybe we are just one off freaks of nature, never to be approximated in the future.

a reply to: G1111B1234

Thanks G, Happy New Year.

a reply to: Xtrozero

If I build a Time Machine, I’ll let you know!
To be honest, in all I’ve research or had discussions about , nothing ever adds up, we’re missing so much and all we can do is speculate. It’s a topic I’ve been thinking about ever since I learnt about aliens when I was a kid and started researching religions.
I’m still no better of in thinking I know the answers , just more confused sometimes lol.

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

You’re welcome and happy new year!

originally posted by: FullHeathen
Or maybe we are just one off freaks of nature, never to be approximated in the future.

Evolution typically weeds out the bad traits as they tend to not survive as the good ones carry on. Saying that, I don't know if high intelligence is a good trait or bad one. High intelligence may end with AI too, maybe that always becomes the end game.

One thing we can say with earth is if we say the current universe is 9 billion years old as the first 5 billion it was just super novas creating the nature elements then it was about 9 billion years ago when the universe was finally much like we have today. During that 9 billion years earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago and in that time only one spices made it to the moon, or made it into some high-tech era. For earth to do it once over billions of years tells me we are more a freak of nature than not.