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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: xuenchen
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There is nothing to stop Harris from setting up her next Presidential campaign. It's only 4 years away...
Except for one problem. She has illustrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, that she is incapable of managing, well, anything. How can anyone expect a person who can't even manage their own campaign, to manage the entire country...on any level?
She torpedoed herself. She was a hollow suit. And now she's proved it to not only all Americans, but the World at large.
How do you counter that?
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: chr0naut
Every single lockdown in the US was implemented before Biden assumed office.
Then it went on and on, and Biden had the power to push the States to lift it and he went the other way to keep it going, and to keep schools closed to the point it damaged our kids.
50 is young? Under 30 was about 10,000 and most of them were high risk due to other medical conditions. 50+ was 900k... As I said, the vaccine was for the very old and high-risk people who had other medical issues.
74,378 US citizens under the age of 50 had died of COVID-19 by June 2023. There was never zero risk from COVID-19 for younger people.
They wear them correctly and use the correct masks. It's also to maintain a sterile environment. Are you still wearing yours? lol
if your surgical team operated on you without masks or face shields? I assure you, they wouldn't be protecting themselves from you. Face masks primarily work to inhibit the spread of pathogens carried on the breath, not to filter them out of our inhalations.
Pfizer paid for their own research and logistics up until then.
You sure like to cherry pick without providing ALL the information. Warp Speed supported 7 companies. Pfizer joined the Warp Speed program in July 2020, and signed a $1.95 billion contract to be paid out when the vaccine would be FDA approved, and included an initial order of 100 million vaccines. In December 2020, the Trump administration ordered 200 million additional vaccines from Pfizer. So you are both correct and incorrect...lol They did as you said above, but also took advantage of Warp Speed.
Close to 70 million doses were delivered to the old and high-risk when Biden took office, but my point was the mandate from Biden that forced the vaccine onto everyone. I think you keep missing that point in that Biden stopped it from being a choice. You don't mandate an experimental vaccine to everyone when only a small percentage really needed it to the point the risks were acceptable.
Today, we know Fauci lied many times and pulled things out of his butt calling it science.
No, Trump said many things that weren't rational and had no basis in science or testing.
But Fauci, on the other hand, usually explained at length why he was saying what he did, and could reference academic papers and tested established procedure in support.
originally posted by: tinkerbell99
Kamala Harris, Doug Emhoff Divorce Confirmed? Second Gentleman Allegedly Left VP After Election Loss
econotimes.com...
Rumors or truth?? Time will tell...
originally posted by: hangedman13
a reply to: chr0naut
But, I have made mistakes. Everyone does. In fact, the American people have just re-elected the same guy who screwed the US economy and denied and distracted through an outbreak of infection that killed more than a million US citizens, and specifically through his inaction and constant sabotaging of mitigation efforts.
Dude lay off it. Or do you want to contend with the fact democrats caused most of those covid deaths? One name, Andrew Cuomo. That pesky nursing home debacle, all after getting his book out on how well he handled the crisis! You are the one caught in the loop, same excuses everytime! Trump is bad man, no blame for the actions the people you claim are so dang effective.
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: xuenchen
I doubt that her loss in the election is the end of her career, and she won't be an octogenarian like Trump will soon be.
And, really, Trump is sure to do exactly the same stuff again. His entire campaign was a re-hash of all the stuff he said he would do leading up to 2016 - and yet somehow didn't achieve while in office last time. He could campaign forever on things he never actually completes.
There is nothing to stop Harris from setting up her next Presidential campaign. It's only 4 years away...
How in the name of Hell do you tie Trump into this coked-up tirade by Kamala?? š¤£š¤£
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: xuenchen
I doubt that her loss in the election is the end of her career, and she won't be an octogenarian like Trump will soon be.
And, really, Trump is sure to do exactly the same stuff again. His entire campaign was a re-hash of all the stuff he said he would do leading up to 2016 - and yet somehow didn't achieve while in office last time. He could campaign forever on things he never actually completes.
There is nothing to stop Harris from setting up her next Presidential campaign. It's only 4 years away...
How in the name of Hell do you tie Trump into this coked-up tirade by Kamala?? š¤£š¤£
I think perhaps the she is implying that Trump will be the one who will take away liberties.
Things like criminalizing abortion, which will lock people up who have done what is now not considered a crime.
Things like prosecuting on the basis of an Executive Order, bypassing due legal process.
Things like applying political bully tactics against officers of the court, firing them summarily if they don't do his bidding.
Things like using the armed forces against protests and invoking the insurrection act against dissent.
Things like prosecuting media organizations who won't carry only government preferred reportage.
Things like deporting those who are Americans by birth but whose parents were undocumented.
He has already removed the ability to prosecute a President for crimes if the crime was committed as an 'official act'.
Defunding and dissolving civil liberties organizations and departments.
That sort of stuff.
originally posted by: CarlLaFong
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: xuenchen
...
There is nothing to stop Harris from setting up her next Presidential campaign. It's only 4 years away...
Except for one problem. She has illustrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, that she is incapable of managing, well, anything. How can anyone expect a person who can't even manage their own campaign, to manage the entire country...on any level?
She torpedoed herself. She was a hollow suit. And now she's proved it to not only all Americans, but the World at large.
How do you counter that?
She's DEI.
Skill, talent and qualifications are unnecessary and you HAVE to vote for her...or you're a Nazi.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Except for one problem. She has illustrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, that she is incapable of managing, well, anything. How can anyone expect a person who can't even manage their own campaign, to manage the entire country...on any level?
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: xuenchen
...
There is nothing to stop Harris from setting up her next Presidential campaign. It's only 4 years away...
She torpedoed herself. She was a hollow suit. And now she's proved it to not only all Americans, but the World at large.
How do you counter that?
edit - Want just a simple example? Why would anyone with two neurons to rub together pay Oprah Winfrey $1.7 million dollars to do anything? Anything at all? Winfrey is a billionaire! Clearly she doesn't need the money, so why pay her...that is, IF she was such a died in the wool Harris supporter? There's simply no explanation for it. Winfrey should have done it for free...IF she really believed in Harris (which she clearly didn't, else she wouldn't have held the campaign hostage for almost $2 million dollars to speak). Presidents don't even get that much!
And one other thing...do you realize the DNC spent over $150 million per WEEK during the last four weeks of the campaign??? For what???? Eminem? Oprah? What did they get? They got a shellacking, is what they got. America saw through that charade, and even hardened democrats said "NOPE!". How do you explain all that? You can't. Sorry, but you can't.
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: xuenchen
Holy crap she's wasted.
Absolutely no doubt.
Wine and Xanax maybe.
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: xuenchen
I doubt that her loss in the election is the end of her career, and she won't be an octogenarian like Trump will soon be.
And, really, Trump is sure to do exactly the same stuff again. His entire campaign was a re-hash of all the stuff he said he would do leading up to 2016 - and yet somehow didn't achieve while in office last time. He could campaign forever on things he never actually completes.
There is nothing to stop Harris from setting up her next Presidential campaign. It's only 4 years away...
How in the name of Hell do you tie Trump into this coked-up tirade by Kamala?? š¤£š¤£
I think perhaps the she is implying that Trump will be the one who will take away liberties.
Things like criminalizing abortion, which will lock people up who have done what is now not considered a crime.
Things like prosecuting on the basis of an Executive Order, bypassing due legal process.
Things like applying political bully tactics against officers of the court, firing them summarily if they don't do his bidding.
Things like using the armed forces against protests and invoking the insurrection act against dissent.
Things like prosecuting media organizations who won't carry only government preferred reportage.
Things like deporting those who are Americans by birth but whose parents were undocumented.
He has already removed the ability to prosecute a President for crimes if the crime was committed as an 'official act'.
Defunding and dissolving civil liberties organizations and departments.
That sort of stuff.
That's all complete BS and you know it is.
Trump has not done any of that, nor will he.
Try harder.
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: chr0naut
All that was the campaign BS points that were all shot in the ass. Means zero now unless somebody can prove something which they can't. Reality has set in, and set in deep. The 2028 campaign points need to be different š
originally posted by: chr0naut
So, they were high risk people who had other medical issues. I think that happens in all age groups. And if they die from a disease, they still died from that disease, statistically, factually, and medically. You can't just throw away the data because it offends your political ideology.
No I'm not currently wearing a mask, but I did recently when I tested positive for COVID-19. I self-isolated then, too, until I tested clear. I didn't hear of anyone I know getting COVID after I started wearing my mask and isolating. Perhaps I stopped that particular bit of an outbreak. That was particularly easy, eh? Wonder why Americans couldn't do it? Perhaps they were at a Trump rally or in a crowded commute despite being sick?
What??? Trump conned the US public into paying for 200 million doses (plus that given out to 6 companies, apparently), and only 70 million doses were actually administered?
Nah, that's the problem with being informed by right-wing propagandists who misinterpret and spin their own narratives.
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