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Federal law trumps state and local law every time

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posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 09:16 AM
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This is what Trump voters are asking for, accountability. Sanctuary cities are literally safe havens for illegal aliens-foreign invaders who can murder, rape and rob without fear from the law. Sanctuary cities are harboring, protecting criminals in democrat run cities. Where is the outrage?

More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide are living outside immigration detention in the U.S., ICE says


why are democrats ok with this?

There is a new sheriff in town, this is gonna be great to see. Finally we will have someone willing to step up and call out these criminal cities, states, mayors and govenors. There is going to be a showdown at high noon on Jan 20th, get ready-grab your popcorn-it's gonna be a great show.

Trump’s Incoming Border Czar Tom Homan Puts Sanctuary Cities on Notice: Requests DOJ to Charge Officials with Obstruction and Harboring for Shielding Illegal Immigrants


any predictions?
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posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 09:19 AM
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Only as outlined in the US constitution.

I believe the constitution is pretty clear on Immigration.

Added. Or does it?

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posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 09:28 AM
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perhaps all the illegals should flock to sanctuary cities so they will be safe. They could make a mass exodus to Denver and all the other cities where the mayors claimed they would use local cops to block immigration. We could even start a go-fund-me for the travel. That way, they would all be safe and protected. And if for some odd reason that didn't work out, they would all be in a few spots and easy to grab, should the need arise. Oh, and no federal funding to sanctuary cites, they chose to disobey federal law, so they can't have federal funds. But I'm sure the local citizen will open both their homes and their wallets to support these America loving asylum seekers.


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posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88
Only as outlined in the US constitution.

I believe the constitution is pretty clear on Immigration.

Added. Or does it?


Actually....

Immigrants and nonimmigrants are something that the United States has to deal with quite often. So, it would only make sense for the constitution to talk about them, right? In reality, though, the constitution doesn’t give too many details about immigration. What it does talk about is who is authorized to make immigration policy.

you knew that, right?

You meant this? Right?

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posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Marijuana is illegal federally but many states allow it's sale for recreational use.
Guns (shall not be infringed) on a federal level but try getting a CCW in Chicago.

Not sure where lines are drawn on this issue.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 12:11 PM
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Is this the part we start chanting "All enemies both forgein and domestic"?

I haven't been getting the memos lately, too caught up with other sociological issues worldwide.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 12:23 PM
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Not sure where lines are drawn on this issue.

a reply to: Bluntone22

I hear ya, we about to find out. With the mandate Trump has to FIX the Biden/Harris open border I would put my money on Holman and the federal juristiction in this instance but we will see soon enough. I am not saying this applies to you but I have to say for anyone that thinks our government-our citizens who voted for this, mass deportation of illegal aliens, that we as Americans cannot enforce our sovereignty-they are out of their minds. People from any where else in the world have no right to just come into our country-they need to go and get in line and apply. We have the best immigration system in the world.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Lazy88
Only as outlined in the US constitution.

I believe the constitution is pretty clear on Immigration.

Added. Or does it?


How many times is the word (Noun) "Citizen" defined in The Constitution? 😀



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: fringeofthefringe

So. You answered your own question.

But it does come down to border security. People with criminal backgrounds sneaking over a border instead of checking into a port of enter is illegal. That is a no brainer they should be deported.

The rest. Probably comes down to invasion vs immigration. I don’t think what we witnessed in the last four years is immigration. It seems like unlawful entry to flood the system. And there is no excuse for its defense.
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posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 12:35 PM
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I don’t think what we witnessed in the last four years is immigration. It seems like unlawful entry to flood the system. And there is no excuse for its defense

a reply to: Lazy88

And

I would also add that this false narrative that our immigration system is broken needs to be called out. Our immigration system is not broke, we need to keep a steady, orderly- vetted stream of immigrants coming in to become citizens through the naturalization process. Those who are claiming our system is broken are actually the ones breaking it, breaking the rules and pretending our border patrol are KKK and hate immigrants. It's so shameful. And one last thing, we are not a nation of immigrants we are a nation of pioneers and immigrants have made our country bigger and better but they must come here legally.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Marijuana is illegal federally but many states allow it's sale for recreational use.
Guns (shall not be infringed) on a federal level but try getting a CCW in Chicago.

Not sure where lines are drawn on this issue.


The DEA would be responsible for going after states that have "legalized" Marijuana use, they choose not too but technically they shouldn't because it is a violation of federal law... Reality it isn't worth our tax money and their loss of potential voters to purse it but it really needs to be addressed on a federal level however that can keeps getting kicked down the road. It is the can of worms, I feel it is contributing to division in this country because now both states and feds choose which laws they do and don't follow. It's not a good situation and we need the leaders at all levels to get the inconsistencies worked out.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: some_stupid_name

The funny thing too is that a business selling marijuana has a difficult time with banking.
Most of them run on cash only because a credit card is federally insured and can't be used on federally illegal purchases. That's why the pot sellers have private owned ATMs.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Actual. “Federal law trumps state and local law every time”. Is that generally true for every aspect of law under the constitution. Why doesn’t the fed enforce a strict set of laws for mail in ballots for every state.

So your title is a bait and switch

Anyway….



originally posted by: fringeofthefringe


I would also add that this false narrative that our immigration system is broken needs to be called out. Our immigration system is not broke,


It’s broken. Cities are being overwhelmed with real criminal threats being allowed into the country in the name of immigration. Where people are not immigrating under established rule of law but breaking the law and being shielded.


originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

we need to keep a steady, orderly- vetted stream of immigrants coming in to become citizens through the naturalization process.


That didn’t happen to millions of people now in the USA labeled immigrates, did it. Part of a system and rule of law is being able to enforce the spirit of the law. What people are now calling immigration did not happen under lawful entry, and orderly vetting did not occur.



originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

Those who are claiming our system is broken are actually the ones breaking it, breaking the rules and pretending our border patrol are KKK and hate immigrants. It's so shameful. And one last thing, we are not a nation of immigrants we are a nation of pioneers and immigrants have made our country bigger and better but they must come here legally.


If the system wasn’t broken, then it would be enforcing and maintaining the rule of law. But we now have millions of people that entered the USA illegally. Everything from border security to enforcing the rule of law regarding entry to who stays for how long into the USA is broken.

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posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 01:49 PM
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Why doesn’t the fed enforce a strict set of laws for mail in ballots for every state.

a reply to: Lazy88

Ahhhh, elections are run by states. Do some research, each state has their own election laws. C'mon.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: Lazy88

Yes, but the ones in charge, especially for the last 4 years, are the ones that broke it. Not enforcing the existing laws only leads to more ignoring those same laws.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: fringeofthefringe

All rounded-up illegals will be driven to sanctuary cities and told to stay there, where they are welcome.

As long as the citizens in those cities don't demand that the mayor gets rid of them, they can stay there indefinitely.

If Chicago citizens get fed up, the illegals will be sent to Los Angeles, or out of the country, whichever they prefer.

Eventually, no cities will want to be a "Sanctuary" for people who are lawbreakers. (Coming into the country illegally makes you a criminal from day #1. People forget this.)



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: Lazy88

COTUS says all votes should be in by voting day,anything after is VOID according to it. So yes there IS a law on it,but the current DOJ will not enforce it.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 03:10 PM
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As long as the citizens in those cities don't demand that the mayor gets rid of them, they can stay there indefinitely.

a reply to: WeMustCare

No deals they have no leverage they must leave and come back in leagally and get vetted. No one is above the law.



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
perhaps all the illegals should flock to sanctuary cities so they will be safe. They could make a mass exodus to Denver and all the other cities where the mayors claimed they would use local cops to block immigration. We could even start a go-fund-me for the travel. That way, they would all be safe and protected. And if for some odd reason that didn't work out, they would all be in a few spots and easy to grab, should the need arise. Oh, and no federal funding to sanctuary cites, they chose to disobey federal law, so they can't have federal funds. But I'm sure the local citizen will open both their homes and their wallets to support these America loving asylum seekers.


I agree with the condition that those cities CANNOT file for extra funding or ANY FEDERAL government resources or reimbursements to accommodate those illegal aliens. Free medical, housing, assistance in ANY manner that federal dollars have funded.....NO MORE!!!



posted on Nov, 26 2024 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

Why doesn’t the fed enforce a strict set of laws for mail in ballots for every state.

a reply to: Lazy88

Ahhhh, elections are run by states. Do some research, each state has their own election laws. C'mon.



So your title isn’t correct in every sense of the constitution.



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