Well, here we go red lines crossed Biden gives the go ahead to use long range missiles

a reply to: onestonemonkey

"Will WW3 go mushroom shaped before Trump is elected?
Is that the real plan?"

No. Why might it be?

a reply to: nugget1

I dont think Putin has to bother.

Entropy will do that soon enough nugget1.

And without the serious ramifications that would most likely ensure.

originally posted by: schuyler2
Multiple "red lines" have already been crossed. How is this any different from the dozens of others? Putin's army has gone from the second most powerful in the world to the second most powerful in Ukraine to the second most powerful in Russia. Putin's threats are not credible.

Right.


Just poke the bear untill nuclear war ensues and MILLIONS of DEAD....and then "...but I thought..."

That bitter about the election that you would rather see millions of dead ????
Seek help...

a reply to: Tolkien

It's not so much about poking the bear.

It's about not backing down to someone who keeps on resorting to threats and the use of nuclear weapons.

You dont back down from bullies Tolkien.

Because if you give them and inch they will take a mile.

Or approximately 18-20% of Ukraine's territory thus far.

This is terrible news but not altogether unexpected from the senile Biden. The Trump haters think this will hurt him but I suspect the opposite will happen.
I bet Trump has already spoken to Putin and told him he will immediately reverse the situation when he takes office and will speak to both leaders to put forward ways to end the war.
Its another Kim Jong Un moment and Trump will make the left look bloody stupid - or I might be wrong and nuclear warfare is now just around the corner !

Joe Biden hasn't a clue what desperate, screaming butthurt democrat, deep-staters are currently doing in the name of his pathetic administration.

a reply to: devilhunter69

I'm not quite sure what kind of big magic orange wand you think Trump can wave that will resolve or immediately reverse the situation.

originally posted by: devilhunter69
This is terrible news but not altogether unexpected. The Trump haters think this will hurt him but I suspect the opposite will happen.
I bet Trump has already spoken to Putin and told him he will immediately reverse the situation when he takes office and will speak to both leaders to put forward ways to end the war.
Its another Kim Jong Un moment and Trump will make the left look bloody stupid - or I might be wrong and nuclear warfare is now just around the corner !

Problem is Ukraine has the go ahead to hit Moscow and if that happens not sure there's much Trump can do about it. Now it can happen as soon as tonight, or Ukraine readies the systems.

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

And thats the real crux of the situation for the better or worse of the matter.

a reply to: Tolkien

Better than supping the (toothless) bear's Kool Aid and going on about your election ?

It seems you are the one crying for nuclear war and fearmongering.

OK I will bite - Trump will pull all support for Ukraine if they do use or continue to use the US made missiles then the UK and the rest of NATO will quickly agree.

a reply to: andy06shake

a reply to: devilhunter69

He does not take office until January devilhunter69.

And a lot can happen in a mouth or two.

I dont think the rest of NATO will quickly agree to rescind their support for Ukraine, Poland certainly won't, and nor i imagine will the UK or Germany.

They certainly dont show any signs of doing so.

And the thing is you dont know what Trump will do.

As i have pointed out he's supposedly a businessman and there is no love in war or politics.

You go for the throat when your adversary is on the ground, you dont let him back up to fight another day.

And i imagine that's a concept Donald understands just fine.

a reply to: andy06shake

Not good it is starting .........

Zelensky reacts to reported lifting of US restrictions on long-range weapons
Missiles “will speak for themselves,” he said about strikes on Russian soil

“But strikes are not carried out with words. Such things are not announced. Missiles will speak for themselves. They certainly will,” he added, without elaborating.

Time to really buy the Beans, Rice and water going to get ruff

RT

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

It started in 2014 Ravenwatcher.

It's just playing out.

They were always going to use the missiles in retaliation.

If it goes nuclear MAD will be the colour of the day.

And hopefully, Mad Vlad, or the people that surround him, are not that mad.

originally posted by: Tolkien

originally posted by: schuyler2
Multiple "red lines" have already been crossed. How is this any different from the dozens of others? Putin's army has gone from the second most powerful in the world to the second most powerful in Ukraine to the second most powerful in Russia. Putin's threats are not credible.

Right.


Just poke the bear untill nuclear war ensues and MILLIONS of DEAD....and then "...but I thought..."

That bitter about the election that you would rather see millions of dead ????
Seek help...

LOL. I'm ecstatic about the election. Play again? (Y/N)

a reply to: andy06shake

You’re supporting an old horrible human being who’s been funneling millions of dollars to his family through his crackhead son (and that’s not name calling it’s an accurate label) through Ukraine.

God forbid Trump actually create peace by having them sit down and agree to a deal. Let’s have the senile kid sniffer escalate it in his last month being relevant.

a reply to: Texastruth2

No im not.

Im supporting the side i know my bread is buttered.

And thats not, nor ever has been, Russia side up.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
According to NY prepper last night Andrews Airforce base was using a callsign which is according to him is used when things are at Defcon two. Things seem to be heating up over there and it might be because Ukraine is running out of fight. If things get hot they will not be having much time for political shenanigans.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Tolkien

It's not so much about poking the bear.

It's about not backing down to someone who keeps on resorting to threats and the use of nuclear weapons.

You dont back down from bullies Tolkien.

Because if you give them and inch they will take a mile.

Or approximately 18-20% of Ukraine's territory thus far.

While fighting a nuclear power, that is bad advice.
We know what worked for 70 years - having a large military presence on the ground beofre any invasion, which was not done.

Now, there is little choice but making territorial concessions. This war is lost, Ukraine is out of soldiers.

And NO.
I am 100% against my sons being drafted to fight this LOST war

a reply to: annonentity

Yeah, like your prepper sources have ever been right......