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If Fox News or Newsmax were really conservative and not just another msm f@#$ face news company they would put together an expose of how Biden, along with Obama's administration-the FBI and, what we now know as the deep state, wire tapping the Trump 2016 campaign and setting up General Flynn, lying to the FISA Court judges and a ton of other nefarious schiit to disrupt the "peaceful transition of power". Every f'n time that Jan 6th is brought up that should be thrown in the face of whomever is speaking, it's almost like Jan 6th was a total pysop to counter what was really done to the Trump transition in 2016. I believe General Flynn is ready to go, if this Trump victory and presidency is going to have a lasting-positive impact on our lives it MUST start with gutting out the rot known as the deep state. It should be an ugly unsightly experience for all of us to witness-if not then it wasn't done right.






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a reply to: fringeofthefringe

# fellas. Can't we just let the Great Orange Dude exist in 2025 when he takes over so he can best govern over 2025 problems rather than going back to 2020 and 2016? He won this time. Maybe elections aren't so rigged after all unless you want to count killing that gosh darn squirrel.

The Gen Z whined for a week about how the democrats executed poor P'Nut for the crime of making some retard jealous of a tame squirrel's social media fame.

Kamala could have overcome the Latino surge if only she had those meddling kids in the bag.

But like I said. Dude won. Let him deal with the future. Can't do much with the past.

a reply to: tamusan

that's exactly what he's going to do.

But like I said. Dude won. Let him deal with the future. Can't do much with the past.

a reply to: tamusan

If said dude does't gut the rotten scum deep state out of our government then it will all be for nought.
Agree?

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

I'm going to call it a win if JAGS finds eggs to be affordable again.

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

I'm going to call it a win if JAGS finds eggs to be affordable again.

Can't spell Tamusan without the USA....

FWIW it's getting there...

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

He may still have a few bullets to dodge before he get to the Oval office.

Patience my good member.

originally posted by: Astrocometus
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

He may still have a few bullets to dodge before he get to the Oval office.

Agreed!

originally posted by: tamusan
Let him deal with the future. Can't do much with the past.

Crimes happen in the past. They need to be addressed. I mean real crimes, not lawfare BS made up crimes.

a reply to: tamusan

But like I said. Dude won. Let him deal with the future. Can't do much with the past.

Ya know what? I agree entirely. Well, except for one small thing, maybe just a grammatical thing. I refuse to see it as him winning. No, I prefer to see it as more than half of voting citizens won. They voiced their choice and it happened. See, it's my king thing.I don't like kings and I don't like the notion that this is any form of game, of contest, of winner or loser. of who wins the prize. I know that may just sound like a perceptional squabble but to me that is important. President of the United States is not a prize.

Crimes were committed. They need to be addressed accordingly and all criminals held accountable.

a reply to: Astrocometus

Bullet's sure, maybe. That is why armed security is in place. But how about other more subversive types of removal.
Have you given much thought to the big flip? How all those high tech moguls and other monarchists went from eschewing him to going all in on him with their donations? And how floating around in those circles was one man who through a friendship with number one son came to be chosen as his VP, who also flipped from a never Trumper to the number one supporter? The one who catalyzed those big donations. It will be interesting to see the new faces that emerge within his inner circle. As I said, one never Trumper is already a heart beat away.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

You offer a lot of things to talk about in the OP, fringe. But to to your point of is FOX a main stream media I say yeah.It began as a concoction of a psycho-aussie whose desire to expand his business while extinguishing his competitors is well chronicled. How he blew away the competition in England by putting the picture of a pretty woman with exposed breasts on page three is well known. How he got to the US and made his own empire among the entrenched and tightly woven fabric of media companies. His corporation buying up news papers and news outlets across the land? Oh yeah, I would definitely say that they are mainstream media.

You offer a lot of things to talk about in the OP, fringe. But to to your point of is FOX a main stream media

fringe. But to to your point of is FOX a main stream media I say yeah

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

To your first point, Do you think there was a peaceful transition of power from the Obama/Biden administration to the new Trump administration in 2016? Please elaborate

Your second point-I think if the shoe were on the other foot the MSNBS, ABC and CNN's of the world would juxtapose the Jan 6th claims of insurrection[which nobody has been charged with] to the Obama administration-the FBI and, what we now know as the deep state, wire tapping the Trump 2016 campaign and setting up General Flynn, lying to the FISA Court judges, etc..when discussing a peaceful transition of power but instead the "conservative" news doesn't make that case. So my point was/is the "conservative" news are just like the rest of the msm in that they are not really fighting for conservatives NOT if they are or aren't msm, clearly they are.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

I saw this on Laura Loomers Twitter feed yesterday, and when I saw it, it made me feel very hopeful for the future. I did notice, however that this was a statement Trump made a year ago and somehow I missed it. I just hope Trump still has the same plans today as he did a year ago. The deep state is very good at distracting the REAL truth from getting exposed. In short, I really hope Trump hits them hard and fast within the first 2 years of his presidency.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Well I made no point about any of that other than the question of Fox, msm or not. The rest I"m sure if I did attempt to make a point would only end in argument so I will not comment on that further. "I"m tired of the winner/loser type of argument.

Well I made no point about any of that other than the question of Fox, msm or not.

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

I clarified that my stipulation was not wether Fox News or Newsmax are considered msm, they clearly are, my point was they do such a schitty job of fighting for the conservative Trump issues when you compare the fight the liberal media engages in everyday for the democrats.

And it seemed like you joined the discussion so I was curious of what you or anybody feels about the "peaceful transfer of power" in 2016 when Obama-Biden-Susan Rice-CIA goon Brennan et al were unmasking trump team members caught up in the FISA warrant scam and all the Russia General Flynn set up etc, etc. It's funny how after all the Jan 6th talk where nobody, I mean nobody-let alone Trump- nobody was ever charged with insurrection but the
Obama-Biden-Susan Rice-CIA goon Brennan crew got away scott free from their wire tapping Russia pee tape Mueller investigation hoax. Too bad Fox News or Newsmax never had the cajones to make the case.Thankfully we have thegatewaypundit.com , they have litterally ran circles around every other news organization to the point where they were being bankrupted but now that Trump has won the presidency maybe they will be part of the presidential press corp, lord knows they've earned it.
So next time you hear the msm talking down to Trump about the peaceful transfer of power ask yourself, why doesn't anyone bring up the worst most disruptive transfer of power in our nations history in 2016 by the Obama/Biden Administration.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

The Clintons weren't exactly benevolent in the handoff to GWB either. Of course a little malicious destruction and vandalism is the least of their crimes.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe
Look, fringe. I have only your narration on that issue and that narration, if you don't mind, seems to me to be deeply believed, deeply enough that you have it all laid out as the only interpretation of the ''facts'' as you have found them. Me, I do not have all of those facts in my proven list and to get to the point in all of that is more than I am capable of without serious study and long hours spent. So, I have no grounds to agree or disagree. Sorry for my lack of opinion.

And Fox and Newsmax do not toe the Trump story line like you wish they would, yet, with out either of them would he nave made the splash he has? Can you deny it? If its revenge or retribution you want do go asking me to agree with your poistion or not agree, leave it up to Trump. He is you dude in this fight you are fighting so leave it up to him. Let him take down Fox along with CNN for all I care as I pay little attention to either.

And Fox and Newsmax do not toe the Trump story line like you wish they would, yet, with out either of them would he nave made the splash he has? Can you deny it?

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

Yes, Trump has made it clear that Fox News doesn't do a good job, Trump tells it to them. While Trump gets along with some there are others that he makes it known that he does not like them. Having said that you have a point, Fox News does do a lot of Trump stories in a positive light unlike 97 percent of all other news.

We can agree to disagree fine. I heard something today, I think it is something we should focus on more but it goes like this;
The democrats did not have a problem with their candidate or even their campaign, the reason the democrats got lambasted on election night was their policies. Nobody could have won on the last four years and their policies. The democrat party's policies were so bad Kalalama never addressed them and never defended them. Trump speaks to his policies all day long and the msm only reports Hitler, nazi rallies and other outrageous lies like Trump will ban abortion or he is going to do away with social security and go after his political opponents or have Liz Chaney face a firing squad. Those narratives became democrat talking points and made there way to Kalalama's political rallies. The democrats had zero policy to run on. I think they also had a terrible candidate and an awful campaign but good policy could have overcome that. Thankfully the democrats never figured it out.