A question about abortion and the states

I kept hearing Harris while campaigning that they wanted "the government out of the decision making process" regarding abortion. That was said by many on the left. So my question is, Isn't that what we have now? States allowing the people of each state to make those decisions? By bringing Roe v Wade back, we would be putting control right back with the federal government. I thought that was what they DID NOT WANT?

I'm not here to argue the validity of abortion or my or your feelings on the act itself, only to understand what people actually want this to look like in the future.

a reply to: network dude

It's just the left trying to rile up their base.

SCOTUS already ruled that abortion is a States issue. That means any new federal law would be struck down as unconstitutional.

The only path they could succeed would be if Kamala had won and taken the House and senate and packed the court with additional activist justices.

Even then, I believe it would take a Constitutional Amendment to increase the number of justices, which would also require 3/4 of States to ratify.


It's performative theater.

a reply to: network dude

They want to protect the 5% of the population who get a certifiable recommendation to abort the fetus by giving the 95% unilateral access to abortion resources.

Ironically, they also want to implement legislation restricting gun purchases to avoid the 95% making the same violent choices that 5% of the gun owners are inflicting on our society.

In other words, they abhor assault with a firearm but not murder. As Matt Walsh said, women's rights are more precious than infant rights, the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many.

Make it make sense.

a reply to: network dude

Liberal fear mongering, it's all they do.

On Election day I was listening to Fox News in the car on the way home from work, they had Arizona Dem senator Mark Kelly on and he repeatedly said Trump would institute a total abortion ban if he was elected.

The anchor attempted to correct him by saying it's up to the states now but he just kept talking over her lying about Trump's plans.

They are mentally F'ed up.

a reply to: network dude

Yes, you are correct.

Unfortunately, nobody in the media was smart enough to ask HER that question.
So many heads would have exploded.

Also, apparently none of her voters were smart enough to question that either.

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: network dude

Yes, you are correct.

Unfortunately, nobody in the media was smart enough to ask HER that question.
So many heads would have exploded.

Also, apparently none of her voters were smart enough to question that either.

that's kind of the point. Unless I totally don't understand any of this, that question seems quite relevant. And nobody seems interested in asking, or answering. WTF?

a reply to: watchitburn

It's far more important to remember that it's the prelude to expanding and packing the supreme court with useful idiots.

a reply to: network dude

They want the complete, unfettered and unchecked ability to kill their babies in their wombs, at any point during gestation. Everywhere.

a reply to: network dude

To be fair, in many states the decision is still left to the government, the debate would be if one prefer state over federal. Some states have made it a ballot measure, in those instances it was certainly left to the people.

That said, it’s crocodile tears from the left. They always threatened this may be an issue before the overturning of Roe V Wade, yet to my knowledge never attempted to codify it with legislation.

It was one of their rally calls that they used for political gain. If their base can’t see that, it’s on them. That has been the running narrative of the left, and likely the reason they keep losing. Their candidates have lacked charisma or any organic support for multiple cycles. And even when they had a guy who truly captured an organic base (Barry), he absolutely burned the American people.

At the same time they scream our population is decreasing soooooo we need more immigrants ... Useful idiots being played - it is what gaslighting produces

Flashback 2022

Schumer dragged after pushing citizenship for illegal immigrants as US birth rate drops
'Maybe quit promoting abortion,' one conservative Twitter user advised

On Wednesday, conservative Twitter users berated Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., for claiming that the solution to America’s declining birth rate was to grant a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants that are currently in the country.

Many reminded Schumer of the irony that he and the Democratic Party support abortion yet are complaining about low birth rates and looking to absolve illegal border-crossers to solve that problem.

originally posted by: network dude
I kept hearing Harris while campaigning that they wanted "the government out of the decision making process" regarding abortion. That was said by many on the left. So my question is, Isn't that what we have now? States allowing the people of each state to make those decisions? By bringing Roe v Wade back, we would be putting control right back with the federal government. I thought that was what they DID NOT WANT?

I'm not here to argue the validity of abortion or my or your feelings on the act itself, only to understand what people actually want this to look like in the future.

Democrats strangely want the decision back that was decided by 9 men rather than the more recent (and correct) decision by the most diverse SCOTUS in history.