Trump is up 3 points in the popular vote poll nationally

And while that may be true, I have a fear that since Hillary was ahead by more in 2016, this election will really be a humiliation ritual. Basically to make Trump voters think they have it in the bag only to snatch it from him to show those who voted for him that they have no power nor a voice in anything and after that, well who knows?

I am sure whatever happens, it will not be good.

If he wins, there will be antifa riots again.

If he loses, then a official will show up at your doorstep asking you why you are a nazi and a racist homophobic hater.

I guess I prefer the first option.

a reply to: berbofthegreen

I don't believe any Trump voters think it's in the bag.
With all of the ballots magically appearing last time in the middle of the night, they are now extremely worried about more of the same.

I early voted and the place was packed so I don't think Trump voters are taking any chances.

a reply to: berbofthegreen

They could kill so many birds with one stone: accuse Trump of cheating to steal the election.

1) It muddies the waters and makes Trump appear ineligible. Being an 'election denier' is going to have a new meaning soon.

2) Creates legislation that keeps the voting process broken.

3) Creates a method for keeping undesired candidates out forever because you don't get the same mileage with media smear campaigns, assassination, and impeachment attempts like you used to.

That's right. I think we're going to see an insanely large amount of fake ballots for Trump this time around, Dominion as well.

a reply to: berbofthegreen

That's all such nonsensical talk, and everywhere you read the same nonsense, just parroted. Who didn't acknowledge the last election and stirred up chaos? Antifa riots? Where, when? Who is this Antifa? Does it mean anti-fascists, or some troublemakers? You people whine because someone called your god a Nazi, yes, a silly statement, but when you look at the terms the savior himself uses ('degenerate, fascists, terrorists')... it's really not much different, is it? The level of this election campaign is lower then low. One thing is certain: if Harris wins, this forum, as well as X and Telegram, will be flooded with conspiracy theories that all say the same thing: it was rigged again! If Trump wins, the country will live in unrest for another four years and go further downhill, both nationally and internationally. Putin will be happy, thats for sure too.

a reply to: malte86

Whoever you are, you are insane. I personally witnessed non stop antifa violence. And where I am it was not even close to what happened on the west and east coast of the US.

Sorry man, your words and letters are without meaning to me as they are lies.

a reply to: berbofthegreen

In reality its pretty close but its just polls, it could also be al landslide win for Trump or Harris.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com...
www.270towin.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...

a reply to: malte86

Awesome, but since you deny billions of dollars of damage and maybe hundreds of lives lost - I cannot communicate with you any longer on this issue. You are living under a rock and I am ok with that, but I refuse to humor fools.

originally posted by: malte86
a reply to: berbofthegreen

That's all such nonsensical talk, and everywhere you read the same nonsense, just parroted. Who didn't acknowledge the last election and stirred up chaos? Antifa riots? Where, when? Who is this Antifa? Does it mean anti-fascists, or some troublemakers? You people whine because someone called your god a Nazi, yes, a silly statement, but when you look at the terms the savior himself uses ('degenerate, fascists, terrorists')... it's really not much different, is it? The level of this election campaign is lower then low. One thing is certain: if Harris wins, this forum, as well as X and Telegram, will be flooded with conspiracy theories that all say the same thing: it was rigged again! If Trump wins, the country will live in unrest for another four years and go further downhill, both nationally and internationally. Putin will be happy, thats for sure too.

It's understandable for you not to know things due to you living in Germany and not the US, but just because you didn't see if from your front porch, doesn't mean it didn't happen. ANTIFA and BLM were rioting all over, and they were largely violent. We all saw it, heard it, some even smelled it. (Tampon Tim's wife for one) Ignorance is expected, but please try not to work so hard at it.

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
a reply to: malte86

Whoever you are, you are insane. I personally witnessed non stop antifa violence. And where I am it was not even close to what happened on the west and east coast of the US.

Sorry man, your words and letters are without meaning to me as they are lies.

So show me this Antifa-Riots. I know Antifa, we have this in Germany too but its a global movement not some Organisation. Mostly peaceful but with some radical elements, the same as right-wing groups. You never ever spoke to someone from Antifa, right? You know what Antifa means? You know the history of Antifa? You just parroting what your Bubble told you. Talking about lies... pffff.

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
a reply to: malte86

Whoever you are, you are insane. I personally witnessed non stop antifa violence. And where I am it was not even close to what happened on the west and east coast of the US.

Sorry man, your words and letters are without meaning to me as they are lies.

So show me this Antifa-Riots. I know Antifa, we have this in Germany too but its a global movement not some Organisation. Mostly peaceful but with some radical elements, the same as right-wing groups. You never ever spoke to someone from Antifa, right? You know what Antifa means? You know the history of Antifa? You just parroting what your Bubble told you. Talking about lies... pffff.

acleddata.com...
www.heritage.org...
thehill.com...

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
a reply to: malte86

Awesome, but since you deny billions of dollars of damage and maybe hundreds of lives lost - I cannot communicate with you any longer on this issue. You are living under a rock and I am ok with that, but I refuse to humor fools.

It was trillions. I know that some riot and cause trouble, but when was the last time that actually happened? Everything is completely exaggerated and hysterical.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
a reply to: malte86

Whoever you are, you are insane. I personally witnessed non stop antifa violence. And where I am it was not even close to what happened on the west and east coast of the US.

Sorry man, your words and letters are without meaning to me as they are lies.

So show me this Antifa-Riots. I know Antifa, we have this in Germany too but its a global movement not some Organisation. Mostly peaceful but with some radical elements, the same as right-wing groups. You never ever spoke to someone from Antifa, right? You know what Antifa means? You know the history of Antifa? You just parroting what your Bubble told you. Talking about lies... pffff.

acleddata.com...
www.heritage.org...
thehill.com...

Thanks! From your your source:

"An Overwhelmingly Peaceful Movement. The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,6 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020)."

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
a reply to: malte86

Whoever you are, you are insane. I personally witnessed non stop antifa violence. And where I am it was not even close to what happened on the west and east coast of the US.

Sorry man, your words and letters are without meaning to me as they are lies.

So show me this Antifa-Riots. I know Antifa, we have this in Germany too but its a global movement not some Organisation. Mostly peaceful but with some radical elements, the same as right-wing groups. You never ever spoke to someone from Antifa, right? You know what Antifa means? You know the history of Antifa? You just parroting what your Bubble told you. Talking about lies... pffff.

acleddata.com...
www.heritage.org...
thehill.com...

Thanks! From your your source:

"An Overwhelmingly Peaceful Movement. The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,6 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020)."

while that's nice, you were talking about ANTIFA. You are making being wrong kind of a sport. You are very talented.

a reply to: malte86

Sorry dude, you are full of it. Antifa are terrorist. Just because your government and the DNC and the media that rules you says they arent. they are. They destroy. That is all they do. They do nothing good. I saw it with my own eyes.

BLM riots caused over a billion dollars in damage and at least a dozen deaths... I'm glad they were mostly peaceful..🙄

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: malte86

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
a reply to: malte86

Whoever you are, you are insane. I personally witnessed non stop antifa violence. And where I am it was not even close to what happened on the west and east coast of the US.

Sorry man, your words and letters are without meaning to me as they are lies.

So show me this Antifa-Riots. I know Antifa, we have this in Germany too but its a global movement not some Organisation. Mostly peaceful but with some radical elements, the same as right-wing groups. You never ever spoke to someone from Antifa, right? You know what Antifa means? You know the history of Antifa? You just parroting what your Bubble told you. Talking about lies... pffff.

acleddata.com...
www.heritage.org...
thehill.com...

Thanks! From your your source:

"An Overwhelmingly Peaceful Movement. The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,6 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020)."

Sure okay 👍 🙄

Also from your quoted source….🤣

a reply to: berbofthegreen

Those polls are state by state, and nationally they’re looking at the electoral votes.

I don’t think there’s a poll that has him up 3% for popular.

That said, he does lead in some polls. But almost all polls have both candidates within the margin of error.

The betting odds however have Trump anywhere from 2/1 odds, to leading by 10%.

None of these are perfect metrics as almost every election has shown. I think the only thing they’re good for is gauging momentum shifts… but we’re near the finish line now.

I think no matter who wins, the loser will cry foul, and there will be some sort of societal unrest. Albeit, that will be on a spectrum from vocal, demonstrating, rioting. Hard to say what will happen without knowing who will win, and the circumstances.

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
a reply to: malte86

Sorry dude, you are full of it. Antifa are terrorist. Just because your government and the DNC and the media that rules you says they arent. they are. They destroy. That is all they do. They do nothing good. I saw it with my own eyes.

i‘m curious and i am interested in truth and facts, therefore i check all spectrums. you are wrong, because you argue without any real knowledge. i am an antifashist too but i never destroy someones property or harm anyone, i just dont like fascists.

I think his polls numbers have been inflated just like his property value has.

He certainly won this poll.
www.independent.co.uk...

He has no choice but to deny the election results, because it's prison if he loses.