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originally posted by: Hecate666
Sin is literally in the eye of the beholder and changes from belief to belief.
There are natural laws that make a human good company, neighbour, friend or anything really, qnd then there are things which make other people's lives a misery.
No normal person needs a god to behave nicely.
I don't. I am as godless as they come and I promise you I am one of the most reliable, honest and nice person. How is that possible?
Do I sin?
I don't know. All I know is that I am better and nicer than my oh so religious, cheating, lying family.
Tao Te Ching Chapter 38
J H McDonald
The highest good is not to seek to do good,
but to allow yourself to become it.
The ordinary person seeks to do good things,
and finds that they cannot do them continually.
The Master does not force virtue on others,
thus she is able to accomplish her task.
The ordinary person who uses force,
will find that they accomplish nothing.
The kind person acts from the heart,
and accomplishes a multitude of things.
The righteous person acts out of pity,
yet leaves many things undone.
The moral person will act out of duty,
and when no one will respond
will roll up his sleeves and uses force.
When the Tao is forgotten, there is righteousness.
When righteousness is forgotten, there is morality.
When morality is forgotten, there is the law.
The law is the husk of faith,
and trust is the beginning of chaos.
Our basic understandings are not from the Tao
because they come from the depths of our misunderstanding.
The master abides in the fruit and not in the husk.
She dwells in the Tao,
and not with the things that hide it.
This is how she increases in wisdom.
Knowing the future is the flower of the Way,
and the beginning of folly.
Therefore,
The truly great ones rely on substance,
And not on surface.
Hold onto the fruit,
And not to the flower.
They reject the latter and receive the former.
Prosperity theology (sometimes referred to as the prosperity gospel, the health and wealth gospel, the gospel of success, seed-faith gospel, Faith movement, or Word-Faith movement)[1][A] is a religious belief among some Charismatic Christians that financial blessing and physical well-being are always the will of God for them, and that faith, positive scriptural confession, and giving to charitable and religious causes will increase one's material wealth.[2] Material and especially financial success is seen as an evidence of divine grace or favor and blessings.
What makes libertarian Christianity unique is that people who claim to be libertarian Christians are people who either implicitly or explicitly claim to have found some kind of ideological bridge that makes libertarianism and Christianity compatible. Whether people who claim to be libertarian Christians have discovered an ideological bridge that is genuinely faithful to the fundamental tenets of both libertarianism and Christianity is inevitably a question whose answer determines whether the libertarian Christian's bridge is ideologically sound or is based on pure presumption and wishful thinking.
originally posted by: Hecate666
Sin is literally in the eye of the beholder and changes from belief to belief.
There are natural laws that make a human good company, neighbour, friend or anything really, qnd then there are things which make other people's lives a misery.
No normal person needs a god to behave nicely.
I don't. I am as godless as they come and I promise you I am one of the most reliable, honest and nice person. How is that possible?
Do I sin?
I don't know. All I know is that I am better and nicer than my oh so religious, cheating, lying family.
originally posted by: Hecate666
... All I know is that I am better and nicer than my oh so religious, cheating, lying family.
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Pride. In the form of inordinate self-esteem or haughtiness, pride can make a person more susceptible to prejudice. For example, pride can cause a person to be prone to feelings of superiority or disdain toward the less educated or the materially poor. It may also make him inclined to believe propaganda that elevates his national or ethnic group. Clever propagandists, such as Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, have deliberately nurtured national and racial pride to rally the support of the masses and to malign those considered to be different or undesirable.
◼ What does the Bible say? “Everyone that is proud in heart is something detestable to Jehovah.” (Proverbs 16:5) “[Do] nothing out of contentiousness or out of egotism, but with lowliness of mind [consider] that the others are superior to you.” (Philippians 2:3) Ask yourself: ‘Do I take secret delight in flattering comments about my own race or ethnic group or in disparaging remarks about others? Am I inclined to be jealous of those who have talents that I lack, or do I take genuine delight in their abilities?’
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Playing on the Emotions
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Some propagandists play on pride. Often we can spot appeals to pride by looking for such key phrases as: “Any intelligent person knows that . . .” or, “A person with your education can’t help but see that . . .” A reverse appeal to pride plays on our fear of seeming stupid. Professionals in persuasion are well aware of that.
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The propagandist makes sure that his message appears to be the right and moral one and that it gives you a sense of importance and belonging if you follow it. You are one of the smart ones, you are not alone, you are comfortable and secure—so they say.
The act of pleasing by artful commendation; adulation; false, insincere, or excessive praise. It is usually done to gratify the self-love or vanity of the one flattered and is therefore damaging to him. Its motive is to gain favor or material benefits from another, to create a feeling of obligation toward the flatterer or to bring glory to him. Often it is designed to lead the other person into a trap. (Pr 29:5) The use of flattery is not evidence of the wisdom from above; it is of this world, being characterized by selfishness, the making of partial distinctions, and hypocrisy. (Jas 3:17) Insincerity, lying, adulating or glorifying men, and playing on the vanity of others are all displeasing to God.—2Co 1:12; Ga 1:10; Eph 4:25; Col 3:9; Re 21:8.
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While the use of flattery may appear to be the gainful course, the Bible points out that “he that is reproving a man will afterward find more favor than he will that is flattering with his tongue.” (Pr 28:23) When a person employs flattery to gain advantage over another person, it is the opposite of love. A hater may resort to flattery but will eventually have his deceptiveness roll back on him like a stone.—Pr 26:24-28.
Flattery employs smooth talk in order to beguile its victim. The expressions “flattery,” “smooth tongue (lip, or words)” (Ps 5:9; 12:2, 3; Da 11:32), “smoothness” (Pr 7:21; Da 11:34, ftn), and “double-faced” (Eze 12:24, ftn) are translations of the Hebrew root word cha·laqʹ or related words. In every Bible instance cited, the motive of the smooth talker is bad.
A good start is to acknowledge that none of us are above developing prejudices. The book Understanding Prejudice and Discrimination says: “Perhaps the most important conclusions to emerge from prejudice research are these: (1) no one capable of human thought and speech is immune from harboring prejudice, (2) it often takes deliberate effort and awareness to reduce prejudice, and (3) with sufficient motivation, it can be done.”
originally posted by: whereislogic
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Some propagandists play on pride. Often we can spot appeals to pride by looking for such key phrases as: “Any intelligent person knows that . . .” or, “A person with your education can’t help but see that . . .” A reverse appeal to pride plays on our fear of seeming stupid. Professionals in persuasion are well aware of that.
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Making Generalizations
Another very successful tactic of propaganda is generalization. Generalizations tend to obscure important facts about the real issues in question, and they are frequently used to demean entire groups of people. [whereislogic: like a whole "family", just for being religious, or all religious people, or all people professing to be Christians.] ...
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Name-Calling
Some people insult those who disagree with them by questioning character or motives instead of focusing on the facts. Name-calling slaps a negative, easy-to-remember label onto a person, a group, or an idea. The name-caller hopes that the label will stick. If people reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative label instead of weighing the evidence for themselves, the name-caller’s strategy has worked. [whereislogic: like the label "creatards" when used to demean those who believe that the universe and the life in it were created by God, as often used by those who believe in religiously rooted and motivated evolutionary myths instead; you can see the label quite often in the comment sections of youtube channels made by atheists when expressing their belief therein and arguing against said "creatards". Even while denying those beliefs in themselves, using phrases such as 'I accept that evolution is a fact', or 'I accept that evolution is a scientific theory/is science', etc.; as if that changes their beliefs/opinions concerning evolutionary myths; they got that behaviour from their gurus, just swapping out the word "believe" with "accept" or "know". Doesn't change that they believe these myths are facts or scientific rather than religiously rooted and motivated unverified philosophies/ideas and proven myths/false stories.]
originally posted by: Hecate666
... All I know is that I am better and nicer than my oh so religious, cheating, lying family.
originally posted by: DragonsDemesne
I remember noticing this a lot even starting around 20 years ago. I don't know if that's how people were conceptualizing it, but I remember meeting a bunch of people over a short time frame that essentially held this belief. They -said- they believed in God, and then just... ignored all the commandments they didn't like or were inconvenient. Basically, anything that actually required them to make a life change, they ignored.
originally posted by: chr0naut
Evil, warfare, spite and fraud all exist.
Is selfishness, even unintended, but that hurts others in some way, sin?