The transition from the USA to America

The USSR lost the cold war. Russia has grown through some hard lessons since, The path the USA is on with compounding interest does not adding up with the can kicking Idea so far. Works better in a growing population.

With those still connected to the internet, Bitcoin was the first out the the gate with the most thrown at it. It's value is in the trust of its encryption. If some do break it, they are next gen on the cyber front. No other crypto will be safe. XRP is built on banking regulations. Ethereum has tested its metal to get that far. Monaro, MNR if you want to try and say under the radar.

With the way the media and courts are going with cases like Steve Bannon, Tina Peters, Alex Jones, J6 and many others... The is a spiritual war going on. It is going to come down to every America for which way it goes. Some have more influence that others.

Do You Know the Difference between Liberty and Freedom?

Freedom is the Old Testament, do what you have too to survive. Adrenochrome, face pealing, whatever. Liberty acknowledged we do have a responsibility with the gifts we have been given, the New Testament. Find your path, seek knowledge, express self determination. Remain aware that the consensuses that resides in you is similar to the consensuses that resides in all beings. Is the Guthix like the Gosling?

How Joe Biden survived the 25th Amendment? How did Al Capone become King Pin? Corruption is nothing new. It goes back to the power of government is from the consent of the people. Would any politician really make any difference on on spike biowar and geoengineering? Maybe? So many things are more than one man.

Perestroika is the name of the time USSR transformed to Russia, A rough translation means Great Depression as the state became privatized. A lot of disruption as reorganization goes on. For a less traumatic way out of the Democrats stealing the next election again, Texas leading the succession will get a good 1/2 to 2/3 of the states in the short term. Cut the federal funding and look after the state, still keep what policies do work, dump the rest. With the media gaslighting on the polls and the message sent by some courts and federal agencies there is a play for another steal in the works.

USA Inc Ltd has no long term legs without liability. Your politician wants to kill you and nothing you can do about it. Not hard to see where that story ends. I know politics is a tough job and I suck at it. The tensions around the next election are like no other. Going to be good and bad point no matter who wins. As for holding enough to unite America, is the District of Columba doing the right thing?

How do you see America holding it together and moving on from Jan 20th, inauguration day?

a reply to: kwaka

It certainly is the tensest election I’ve ever seen coming.

United We Stand…and stuff.

But honestly, as I mentioned before, no matter who wins I’m gonna be like “aw sh!t, here we go!”.

Interesting OP. Lots to unpack. Curious to see others takes. I like the observation about federal taxes, I fear insolvency could spark some unwanted repercussions.

Deficit spending has left the building awhile ago.

We are in debt. Big Time.

What do you think personally? If anything.

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

What do you think personally? If anything.

Stock up on water, bean, bullets' and band aids. Get to know your neighbors.

a reply to: kwaka

You speak of freedom vs liberty.

I'll ask this; Does the 1st Amendment protect misinformation?

a reply to: DBCowboy

I think that Obama's Global Engagement Center protects the right to misinformation, they are the leading purveyors of it on the American people.

a reply to: kwaka
Ah kwaka, you look and find the scenario to a play. The play. Cold war???? What was that? Russia losing something that never existed. Listen very closely, you are an ordinary citizen and you're being shafted. Russian, American, British etc. etc. it's the same play. Let me explain, take America. Before it was America it was shafted by the British! Well the Spanish and the French as well. So they decided to get off that bus and fought for independence. Please not at this point it was and always will be the ordinary man fighting and losing their lives not the "money men". Since then just different shafters reaping their "rewards" of you.
Bitcoin???? A Ponzi scheme to part ordinary people from their money. Yeah there have been a couple of "winners" but that's part of the allure.
National Debt???? Answer me this:- does Mr Gates/Mr Musk et al worry about the national debt? They care about the nation as much as a shark cares about the last fish it ate, cos come the time they just up sticks and move on to the next mark/country.
Politics? That's just the show for you to worry and fret about because behind the curtain the grift goes on, in America/Russia/ UK etc.etc.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Kwaka is an Aussie, Cowboy.

His interppretation is from the outside looking in.

What do you reckon?

Btw, Kwaka is an Aussie slang term for a Kawasaki Motorcycle.....started with the popular Mighty Zed 1 900s. Though some called the older Mach 111 and H2, Kwakas previously too.

a reply to: gort69

Freedom and liberty mean different things for people.

My biggest issue is of free speech, which is eroding as we speak.

a reply to: crayzeed

Russia losing something that never existed.

Russia remained. As for what happened to the USSR was a bit like Washington DC going bankrupt. The state institution collapsed. Made a lot of improvements when rebuilding, took a few years.

does Mr Gates/Mr Musk et al worry about the national debt?

Bill gates is buying up a lot of land these days, getting his investments out of the USD and putting it into something that will survive any disruption to come. America will survive. As for how the USA goes with the growing political division going on?

a reply to: gort69

Btw, Kwaka is an Aussie slang term for a Kawasaki Motorcycle

Yeah, spent a couple years taking one around Australia, KLR 650. Getting an AGM battery for the corrugated roads was the only real problem with it. There is a kwakakev.com still lingering in the wayback machine about it.

a reply to: crayzeed

Bitcoin???? A Ponzi scheme to part ordinary people from their money.

Nah, It ain't no Ponzi scheme. With the rise of this digital age, its most valuable commodity is trust with the amount of encryption and redundancy thrown at it. As long as the encryption holds, so will its value. Getting in and out of Bitcoin can have some weakness and exploits when dealing with third parties. The core code is energy intensive with a lot of infrastructure in place, very secure if prudent about it. Lot easier than moving gold or cash around the place if SWIFT ain't playing nice.

As for all the other crypto's that has risen since, do your homework.

a reply to: crayzeed

you look and find the scenario to a play. The play. Cold war????

How old are you? The sins of your fathers? Seeing how the drama at the Olympics continues? I get it how USA put the International Space Station in the too hard basket with so many languages and doing its own thing there.

As for how this transition goes, both sides are pushing hard. Does Kamala have a more extensive voter fraud organization going on? With how Trudo in Canada is still in the hot seat while only getting 20% of the vote Who is counting the votes? The FBI was in cover up mode with the 2020 election, has much really changed there? Don't see a lot from the other side if the planet.

With how the 2020 election went, Trump was in the lead when America was going to bed, I was just getting up that day and got to see some of the shenanigans that night. Even if Trump get more votes this time, will the 3AM dump give Kamala 120 Million? How will the public react to more of these graphs?



I don't see another J6 insurrection will be so passive. This is where Texas has point on secession. While some states are as bent as a coat hanger, those that want to express their rights and look for a better way will have a window. Securing the state boarder and keeping the state economy going are some of the many challenges down this path.

Another possibility, what happens if enough in congress don't certify the vote? Will there be another election. How long will that take and who is in charge in the mean time? All the states might not have much option in dealing with the federal matters? What happens when the account sending the federal cheques gets frozen?

a reply to: kwaka

I wish my brethren stateside, whatever way they swing politically, had half the interest you do as to getting informed about politics. Or history for that matter.

Unfortunately. The US has become a laughing stock for a variety of reasons, some are tropes that ring true, sure. But we aren’t exactly known for our critical thinking or critiquing the government in the illuminating way you’ve done in this thread.

Sounds a bit like you’re hoping for the best while expecting the worst for us. Wish I could say differently.

Thanks for this thread. It really does touch on some issues most people either don’t, or wouldn’t prefer to think about here in the states. I know it’s a big one. I’m trying to enjoy the rest of this year before the detonator goes.

a reply to: kwaka

This is only a difference of style, and the terms ‘liberty’ and ‘freedom’ are normally used interchangeably by political and social philosophers. Although some attempts have been made to distinguish between liberty and freedom (Pitkin 1988; Williams 2001; Dworkin 2011), generally speaking these have not caught on.

Freedom & Liberty not Freedom vs Library

This should supposedly resolve one of the questions.

How ever it may lead to others. LoL

The trick, is to not get caught up in the all the divide and conquer. Seek common ground that is mutual, and don't focus on difference. We as people can't afford to be divided any further.

There is no Plan B, no one is coming except Jesus, be your own Cavalry.

United We Stand, The Rest Is, Not An Option!

In order for that to work, the "We" must be United not divided...

a reply to: DBCowboy

My biggest issue is of free speech, which is eroding as we speak.

If you are Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, Tina Peters, Donald Trump or others looking for the right thing, it comes at a cost. Use it or lose it.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: DBCowboy

My biggest issue is of free speech, which is eroding as we speak.

If you are Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, Tina Peters, Donald Trump or others looking for the right thing, it comes at a cost. Use it or lose it.

Eh.

Almost. I mean you ain’t wrong.

But may I point out these people do and have and are being made examples of in this new Amerika you’re referring to at the hands of the state and its agents.

And you have the FBI showing up at Joe Q. Public’s house for mean tweets and memes so it ain’t like ya gotta even “be somebody.”

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

But may I point out these people do and have and are being made examples of in this new Amerika you’re referring to at the hands of the state and its agents.

I could keep my head in the sand as this Amerika of the USA evolve into the USSA. Or I can say, Huston, we have a problem before the spaceship blows up. You want your 9/11 gaslighting geoengineering biowar to go on, don't make much difference who is in charge. Will be some changes between Harris and Trump in how things roll. Really want to drain the swamp, stop the funding.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: crayzeed

Russia losing something that never existed.

Russia remained. As for what happened to the USSR was a bit like Washington DC going bankrupt. The state institution collapsed. Made a lot of improvements when rebuilding, took a few years.

does Mr Gates/Mr Musk et al worry about the national debt?

Bill gates is buying up a lot of land these days, getting his investments out of the USD and putting it into something that will survive any disruption to come. America will survive. As for how the USA goes with the growing political division going on?

I don’t think Gates is buying land as investment as much as control. Yes, his motivation seems for more control. It’s not like he doesn’t have enough already.

a reply to: EyeoftheHurricane

What’s that Lassie?

Wyoming is burning and not a peep from MSM?

Oh.

a reply to: kwaka

I agree with the sentiment. Yet it’s easy to make the charge and offer the prescription when you don’t live here.

While I agree the powder keg is too near the bonfire, some of us are just trying to live. And yes I agree with how you think it ought to go since I’m tired of my tax $ blowing up brown people in faraway lands so the MIC can get somehow richer.

Alas tax evasion carries a somehow stiffer penalty here in the states than murder….