Russias eternal shame

This video shows the Russian invasion of Ukraine from the standpoint of the locals.
The media and trolls will only give you their perspective with an obvious bias.
Make up your own mind.

Language warning. Not too bad but fair warning.

Ukraine still looks pretty good from that video. Is it’s supposed to be a warzone?

The city in the video looked better than Detroit or Jackson or LA or Baltimore or…

Jokes aside yea anyone who gets their home invaded usually hates the invader. Like anyone who kicks down my door I instantly hate for ever and always. So I can see why Ukraines would hate everything about this I totally support that hate it’s righteous and they’re entitled to it.
I mean the war and the reason for it are more complex then this but as for the individual who had no say anyway absolutely it really dosent matter the reasons why people came rolling through their town destroying and killing.

Which is why I can never empathize with people who advocate for illegal immigrants. It’s like advocating for a thief to come kick the door of your home down. A true 1:1 relation.
a reply to: Bluntone22

Dbl

a reply to: Athetos

Well he invader tends to push the narrative that they are liberating the locals.
As for damage. The girl talks about her family’s home being bombed.

a reply to: Athetos

Jokes aside yea anyone who gets their home invaded usually hates the invader.

I agree with this sentiment, and not trying to drift the thread, but in that regard shouldn't everyone be on the Palestinian side since the Brits facilitated an invasion of their land by using European Jews to colonize Palestine?

Doesn't that mean, that all the resistance against the USA and Britain in Iraq, ALL OF IT is then rightly justified? The Irish were justified in their violence as well right? What is good for the goose, is good for the gander, correct? Are we going to be honest and consistent, or start throwing around the excuses why one invasion is terrible and the resistance to it is all good, and explain why it is bad in another context??

Russia was only using the precedent set by the USA in 2003 with its pre-emptive strike doctrine. And that Iraq war was completely based on outright lies that were admitted as such. Eternal shame?? Half the world is going to laud Russia for its efforts at confronting the NATO empire which has been destroying societies and overthrowing governments in the poor and weak countries on Earth for over sixty years. That way of life was not only the most horrendous and barbaric foreign policy, people act like it has never happened! But it is the truth, if we are going to talk about Eternal shame, I think the dozens of countries destroyed through NATO interventions that were mostly all weaker and poor countries to begin with not aligning their monetary policies with that of the Bank for International Settlements and European financial domination, using the American military to achieve its goals is what is eternally shameful. We all used to agree in that regard too until Hillary Clinton started talking about Russian collusion which was completely made up with the assistance of foreign agents!

I know the European elites want to try and market Russia's pre-emptive strike as some historical shameful act, but European society historically have a problem reading the room. We have two entire continents stained with Europe's eternal shame in the Western Hemisphere. We have two world wars to Europe's eternal shame, and they damn well desperately beg for a third praying America will be gullible enough to sacrifice our boys again for their # financial domination agendas.

I think the eternal shame historically, belongs to the European elites and ruling class, and then partially the Europeans themselves for naively believing their Royal Monarchs have zero influence in the direction for their nations' policies. If European citizens were any kind of serious about being free and democratic, they would take measures and make effort at stripping any official Royal designations within their society. the title of King and Queen, antique vestiges of the past which must be eliminated and any special treatment of such titled individuals be removed from legislation. As long as they are permitted those titles with special treatment they will continue to use their centuries old networks of infiltrated national governments to move policy in their own countries and abroad and play pretend to the world by saying "see, its not us, we are just a novelty of the past, we have no real power despite having had it for centuries and all of our titles still standing and us owning the most wealth of our nation".

I used to think America was the most brainwashed mind controlled nation of the west, but clearly such milestones lay in the old Monarchies of Europe.

just one word sums up everything and started this whole new practice amongst TPTB...................... Kosovo

a reply to: worldstarcountry

I suppose the Cherokee have every right to bomb Chicago.
The Utes can bomb salt lake city....

Does every country have a long list of things to be shameful for? Yeah, probably..
Does America? Yeah, definitely.

But we did learn it from the best of the worst so what can you do with human nature...🤠

a reply to: Bluntone22
Naah, make up your own mind, yet your post and video is obviously biased. Now go and find a video of the ethnic Ukrainians (more Russian than Ukrainian) from the Donbas and record their standpoint of the Northern Ukrainians killing, oops, I mean ethnic cleansing, oops, I mean re educating them. THEN we can make our minds up to who or what. But people have short memories and like to forget these little faux pas because it doesn't fit their agenda.

a reply to: crayzeed


My very first sentence said it was from a viewpoint of locals... Aka , their biased perspective.. that's why I posted it. The more information available the better.

People need to look around to make up their minds.

Both sides can also be correct in their beliefs.

One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. Depends on where you're sitting.

a reply to: Bluntone22
Yes, precisely my point. However, when looking through history, I think many of the world's problems of the last several hundred years begin with Europe, and so does the final destination of cheaply exported raw material from nations who's markets and industries were conquered by foreign capital, usually after an NGO supported revolution or some such.

Forgive me, but I no longer see European allies as allies with the kind of leadership the EU has in place. I think it was a hail mary attempt at conquering the world through financial domination that has now failed. Americans have finally woken up in mass mainstream quantities about the foreign malign influence within our congress and intelligence community, and are finally making decisions and choices guided with such knowledge.

originally posted by: crayzeed
One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. Depends on where you're sitting.

Yep! That is the old way, the primal human way.

As I've been saying, cosmic law is coming. Call the messenger Jesus, God, or aliens, humanity is going to be set straight because it can't seem to do the job itself despite previous help.

Considering our endless Universe, or even our small galaxy, you may wonder, is it worth the effort?

They are aloud to hate the peoples who invaded them sure like I said.

I said the feelings where justified not the actual invasion. Buts that’s just to me it’s very justified to them. Or that the feelings are correct to them. As others have stated it’s all where you’re sitting and what your goals are.


And Palestinians do hate people they consider invaders. People hate on America for being invaders. Native Americans hate on everyone else for being invaders Mexico hates on Venezuela ect ect ect. Natural normal human reaction. Because it’s 1:1 you have broken into my house, into my neighborhood, into my town, into my city, into my country.

Then there is the unfortunate and ultimate reality of the world. Might makes right. It’s dosent matter if you had the moral high ground if you have been crushed under history.

If my home is being invaded and I do nothing(or I can’t do anything as in I have no means)I let it happen I disappear and the invader is right. He desired my belonging and took them from me up to and maybe including my life. I didn’t or couldn’t defend myself and now the semantics of rights and wrong don’t really matter so much when held up to alive vs dead.

If my home is being invaded and I do defend myself. He disappears and I am right. I desired to my belongings up to and including my life.

So I guess yes Palestine got invaded but were to week to do anything about it and still are to this day. They were and wrong from weakness.

The British invaded much of the world. They were strong and everyone else was weak. They were right.

It’s brutal I don’t have any answers but it’s the world as I see it.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
just one word sums up everything and started this whole new practice amongst TPTB...................... Kosovo

They learned to behave over in that region now. They should be thankful to the UN and NATO 👍

originally posted by: vance2

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
just one word sums up everything and started this whole new practice amongst TPTB...................... Kosovo

They learned to behave over in that region now. They should be thankful to the UN and NATO 👍

Yes, sort of. At the barrel of a gun maybe. What the NATO intervention into the affairs of a sovereign state did at the same time, made everything we see in Ukraine right now a possibility. They changed the rules when it came to the former Yugoslavia.

originally posted by: CosmicFocus

originally posted by: crayzeed
One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist. Depends on where you're sitting.

Yep! That is the old way, the primal human way.

As I've been saying, cosmic law is coming. Call the messenger Jesus, God, or aliens, humanity is going to be set straight because it can't seem to do the job itself despite previous help.

Considering our endless Universe, or even our small galaxy, you may wonder, is it worth the effort?

Row, row, row your boat. Gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.

a reply to: Athetos

There is no moral highground in Ukraine. There is only business.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

And Russia is targeting civilians.

How moral.

a reply to: [post=27495427]Oldcarpy2[/post

has Ukraine won yet?..
jee.....it's taking a long time.
Russia is winning.....km by km, day by day, month by month.

watch out the UK is next, Vald's going to nuke you.
Does Russia scare you...if so why?

a reply to: tomeville

Hello!

And....Goodbye!