Reform UK Threaten Private Prosecution of Manchester Airport Thugs if They're Not Charged

The Crown Prosecution Service are waiting for the result of the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) report into the actions of the police during the Manchester Airport incident involving the 2 Asian thugs before they decide if they will be charged for the assault on police that we all saw , many believe it will be a stitch up and no charges will be laid against the thugs because "social cohesion" so pre-empting that stitch up all 5 Reform MPs have signed a letter to the Home Secretary stating that if they are not charged Reform will launch a private prosecution against them.

All five Reform MPs have written to the Home Secretary about the Manchester Airport incident and two tier justice.

If the CPS will not charge the assailants, we will organise a private criminal prosecution against them.
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Reform say they have a legal team ready and if necessary they will crowd fund the prosecution , I say I will back that prosecution.

a reply to: gortex

Gotta' say I would back this and fully agree with the MPs' decision.

Sorry, does someone have a link to the what happened originally?
Just an American, so I don't know what happened.

I can go look.

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a reply to: chiefsmom

Sorry, does someone have a link to the what happened originally?

No problem , Here's the thread , the incident was first portrayed as police brutality with a short mobile phone video of a police officer kicking one of the thugs in the head while he was on the ground , people were shouting police brutality until some kind person leaked the security cam video below showing the full incident and we saw what really happened.


The video in the thread has been removed , here's the video of the thugs assaulting the police , two of the officers were female one had her nose broken by the thugs.


The incident happened in July and as yet no charges have been made against the thugs while British people involved in the riots after the children were killed in Southport were arrested and imprisoned within weeks , one guy got 2 years for shouting at police and "getting in their face".

Personally I think the thug who broke the cops nose should have been ventilated with lead. Would have made a much better video.

Violence and force always deserved to be met with vastly greatly overwhelming force.

Just like how rock throwing Palestinians or even Americans in some cases get exactly what they deserve.
a reply to: gortex

a reply to: gortex

Yeah, I saw the short one of the police when I went digging. Thank you so much for linking the start of it video.

Holy Heck.

Yeah, those two men deserve to rot.

originally posted by: Athetos
Personally I think the thug who broke the cops nose should have been ventilated with lead. Would have made a much better video.

Violence and force always deserved to be met with vastly greatly overwhelming force.

Just like how rock throwing Palestinians or even Americans in some cases get exactly what they deserve.
a reply to: gortex

Gandi begs to differ.

originally posted by: gortex
No problem , Here's the thread , the incident was first portrayed as police brutality with a short mobile phone video of a police officer kicking one of the thugs in the head while he was on the ground , people were shouting police brutality until some kind person leaked the security cam video below showing the full incident and we saw what really happened.

Unless the officer concerned can demonstrate that he, and his fellow officers, felt at the time that the force he used was reasonable, it is still Police brutality and he will face disciplinary and possibly criminal charges if that is found to be the case.

The two men who are awaiting charges cannot be charged until the IOPC has completed it's investigation because the outcome of that investigation will determine the charges. There is no question of charges not being brought. Reform are just attention seeking I can only presume.

The problem, as I see it, potentially, is ascertaining whether the arrest was lawful. If the arrest was unlawful, it will be one set of charges for both men. If it was lawful, another - resisting arrest and obstructing arrest. Either way, they are going to get charged with ABH or aggravated assault, something along those lines. No charges at all is highly unlikely and I believe all parties have acknowledged as much.

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: gortex

Yeah, I saw the short one of the police when I went digging. Thank you so much for linking the start of it video.

Holy Heck.

Yeah, those two men deserve to rot.

Who needs the Police, judge and jury? You sure you don't want to be executioner too?

They could get six to 12 months. Resisting arrest and assaulting a Police officer is never the wisest choice. From what I gather there may be extenuating circumstances that the judge may or may not take into consideration in issuing sentencing. The outcome of the IOPC investigation will largely determine what charges the two men face. The outcome of the investigation will also determine whether the Police officer who kicked and then stamped on the head of incpacitated man is charged with an offence and if so, they too will have to present their case to the CPS. That case would have to be pretty extreme to exonerate the subsequent actions of the two men and not just a case of a Police officer losing their temper and control.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

There's also the alleged incident involving them on the plane they arrived on and in the coffee shop at the airport to be taken into consideration.

a reply to: gortex

You mean the racial slur that was directed towards their Mother and their subsequently confronting those that insulted their Mother?

That's what I was saying about the extenuating circumstances, but that depends upon what grounds the arrest was attempted and what would be considered reasonable force.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

You mean the racial slur that was directed towards their Mother

You have evidence for your belief of that allegation ?

originally posted by: gortex
You have evidence for your belief of that allegation ?

Is a belief a belief if it can be evidenced?

Either way, I never made any claim to having a belief, my exact words were "there may be" in that particular context.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Your exact words were ....

You mean the racial slur that was directed towards their Mother and their subsequently confronting those that insulted their Mother?

Seems like a statement of belief that there was a racial slur , nobody who wasn't there knows what actually happened on the plane or the subsequent incident in the coffee shop but there can be no excuse for assaulting police Occasioning ABH against them.

Story I read is she was laid out on the seats of the plane and people complained , when they come to court the truth will be heard.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Your exact words were ....

You mean the racial slur that was directed towards their Mother and their subsequently confronting those that insulted their Mother?

Seems like a statement of belief that there was a racial slur...

You see that little hooked line? The one with the dot beneath it? We call that a question mark.

A question mark (?) is a punctuation symbol placed at the end of a sentence or phrase to indicate a direct question, as in: She asked, "Are you happy to be home?" The question mark is also called an interrogation point, note of interrogation, or question point.

To understand the question mark and its use, it's helpful to know that in grammar, a question is a type of sentence expressed in a form that requires (or appears to require) an answer. Also known as an interrogative sentence, a question—which ends with a question mark—is generally distinguished from a sentence that makes a statement, delivers a command, or expresses an exclamation.

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Racial slur is a claim that has been repeated, I don't know about it's veracity but if it was found to be the case then it could be considered an exacerbating factor

originally posted by: gortex
...nobody who wasn't there knows what actually happened on the plane or the subsequent incident in the coffee shop but there can be no excuse for assaulting police Occasioning ABH against them.

Indeed, mostly, there are exceptions that prove the rule. If the arrest was lawful, resisting and obstructing that arrest will most likely be added to those charges. However, as I previously stated, it is my understanding that a judge is empowered to take into account any extenuating circumstances, when sentencing, if a defendant is found guilty as charged and there may be extenuating circumstances.

There may also be extenuating circumstances as to why the Police officer appears to use excessive force on an already incapacitated man. I don't think that there is any excuse for that either and nor does the Police code of professional conduct, so if he can't justify that at the time he felt that that was a reasonable use of force, he too should face criminal prosecution for his behaviour if the IOPC decides to bring charges.

originally posted by: gortex
Story I read is she was laid out on the seats of the plane and people complained , when they come to court the truth will be heard.

People will complain, often without any reasonable grounds.

Has it been established whether the person had purchased additional seats just so they could spread out? Perhaps they had a medical condition that required it or the airline allowed it? Is it illegal to lay across the seats on a aeroplane? Would such an action, lying across seats, to your mind, justify the issuing of racial slurs?

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

You see that little hooked line? The one with the dot beneath it? We call that a question mark.

Obviously being as you were asking me a question , what else would you use ?

originally posted by: gortex

Obviously being as you were asking me a question , what else would you use ?

A question is not a statement of belief.

There you go, we got there in the end.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

A question is not a statement of belief.

Depends on how the question is phrased.