Can you see Earth's new 'minimoon' with the naked eye?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Justoneman

Because, by definition, it is a moon. Just not, the Moon:

education.nationalgeographic.org...

I realize you have a good point, and it is true they use the term. Loosely here I do believe strongly.

My point is they are actually making themselves out to be idiots for calling a rock small as a Van a moon is all. I work with this group of people in my professional life and we do make fun of these type of things amongst ourselves because LOGIC isn't always used. MY end of this is to analyze data, so I do have a more rigid view of logic that makes for fun in rooms full of Nerds with who are so oriented to their particular expertise they lose other aspects of logic. That is what I was trying to say.

Not trying to belittle the story. Just bemoaning how I don't like their concept as written.

a reply to: Justoneman

I would agree with you, but it is what it is.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

🇫🇷Moonette? 🇪🇸Moonito? 🇵🇹Mooninho? 🇷🇺Moonchik?
🇮🇹Moonicino? 🇸🇦Moo'eena? 🇬🇷Moonaki? (OK Greece, that was just uncalled for...that's ENOUGH of that...)

originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: bastion

Kordylewski clouds are ghost moons, which are basically debris clouds at the Lagrange points. I'm not sure why they're called a ghost moon, though, as I wouldn't really call orbiting debris clouds a moon.

Thanks I wasn't aware of the Kordylewski cloud name and completely agree on the debris clouds not being moons front as that's the bit that always confused the hell out of me/seems to go against the definition of a moon

Doubtful, but dont forget in the coming days C/2023 A3 will be rising up in the evening if your in the northern latitudes.

I use star walk 2 on my phone to get into the right area of the sky to start looking.

a reply to: Justoneman

Well thinking it's one thing Justoneman.

Proving it somewhat of a different matter.

Do you have any tangible evidence that backs the claims.

HAARP's primary purpose was to study the ionosphere and conduct experiments related to radio wave propagation.

It doesn't have the capability to create clouds or manipulate weather in any significant way.

It did however have the capability of heating up specific regions of the ionosphere temporarily via bombarding it with high-frequency microwaves.

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Gotta love how scientists are calling this a mini moon when you can't even see it with your naked eye.

It isn't the sciebntists that are calling it that, it's the media. They love eye-catching / baity headlines.

originally posted by: Justoneman
Close Andy.

The seeding of the Silver Iodide does work. I think the HAARP sites that there are several of now, can manipulate the air in a small window to create clouds.

Sometimes silver iodide seeding works, on water vapor clouds, but not on the "plasma clouds" made by HAARP which don't contain water vapor, they are composed of plasma.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Do you have any tangible evidence that backs the claims.

HAARP's primary purpose was to study the ionosphere and conduct experiments related to radio wave propagation.

It doesn't have the capability to create clouds or manipulate weather in any significant way.

It did however have the capability of heating up specific regions of the ionosphere temporarily via bombarding it with high-frequency microwaves.

This is also my opinion, based on my presumption that you can't refer to "plasma clouds" without the word "plasma".

I suppose someone else might have a different opinion, to think that "cloud" could refer to plasma cloud, but I disagree with such an opinion if using the word "cloud" with no particular context, or in this case I think the context was about cloud seeding and such, which definitely does not apply to plasma clouds. What can happen when you bombard the ionosphere with HAARP microwaves is the creation of "plasma clouds" which are more akin to something like "ball lightning" than to the "clouds" associated with weather we are more familiar with, the type needed for "cloud seeding".

NRL Scientists Produce Densest Artificial Ionospheric Plasma Clouds Using HAARP

One reason we don't get ordinary clouds at HAARP-related altitudes, is that such clouds require water vapor which is more or less absent in the ionosphere, the part of the atmosphere affected by HAARP. Creating artificial "plasma clouds" with HAARP doesn't require any water vapor, it's just an excitation of the charged particles that are already in the ionosphere.