U.S. Officials have confirmed that Israeli Forces have now crossed into Southern Lebanon

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: putnam6

I bet Biden is ready to scream at some union bosses over the phone !

Just wait until our 'highly educated' college kids get wind of this. Meltdown 3...2....1.

I sure wouldn't want to be anywhere in the middle east right now; Bibi isn't pussy-footing around....and he's going it alone.

Bibi and his top people say they no longer trust Biden Harris. No briefings to the U.S. before or after any operations. Wow

I think he knows about how U.S. insiders may have helped hold back intel before Oct7 ☠️

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: putnam6

I bet Biden is ready to scream at some union bosses over the phone !

Just wait until our 'highly educated' college kids get wind of this. Meltdown 3...2....1.

I sure wouldn't want to be anywhere in the middle east right now; Bibi isn't pussy-footing around....and he's going it alone.

Bibi and his top people say they no longer trust Biden Harris. No briefings to the U.S. before or after any operations. Wow

They shouldn't trust them. Remember when Israeli/American relations were so solid, Bush and the King of Jordan got them to stand down as Saddam lobbed SCUD missiles?

America needs to be strong in the Middle East if feels like we are right on the cusp of a shift in attitudes, handcuffing Israel right now is not ideal. The only thing that makes sense is in the backchannels it remains solid as ever.

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On 17 January 1991, Iraq initiated a missile campaign against Israel. Over the course of the next month, approximately 42 Scud missiles were fired into Israeli territory, primarily at the cities of Tel Aviv and Haifa.

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Hezbollah claims it inflicted casualties on Israeli troops in Lebanese territory. The incident occurred opposite the towns of Adaisseh and Kfar Kila, near the Lebanon-Israel border. Hezbollah did not provide evidence to support its claim.

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The Israel Defense Forces' ground movement into Lebanon will be significant but not "major," a senior U.S. official told ABC News.

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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: SteamyAmerican

Not this, again?

I know right?!

I can’t believe she would say something so blatantly false either.

I totally agree OC2.

a reply to: putnam6

Handcuffing Israel?

Is that what we are doing when we send them $ and bombs?

Because maybe I missed something but no matter what nation in the west that says something to try and provide a truce or peace-deal in the region, is immediately blindsided by a new Israeli attack or a reneg by the Palestinian side on terms.

Now I know how this started and questions linger there, but it seems as though Bibi is going it alone even with regards to his own people’s wishes.

This train has left the station and Netanyahu keeps moving the go-posts for what a “victory” means.

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BREAKING: The Israeli ground operation in southern Lebanon started, Israeli officials said
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a reply to: putnam6

Good news 👍
Hopefully they brought their high boots.
There are lots of terrorist turds to flush in Lebanon.
The Lebanese people will be better off for it with hezbollah gone, finally.
Israel should send UN the bill for it.

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

How long should a country put up with indiscriminate rockets being fired at them?

Hezbollah was the tip of the spear for Iran. It was the linchpin holding back Israel from pushing all the proxy fronts or Iran directly.

Israel used their intelligence agency to find a weakness and have been applying exponential pressure since.

I don’t think they’re above criticism. I believe we should question their lobbying and political influence on the US. And I’m vehemently against any legislation to block protest against a foreign power we have no defensive treaties with.

But I absolutely understand and appreciate their will to survive from a position of strength. It’s truly rare to see these days.

I don’t feel sorry for them crushing the ideologies that are a stain on this planet. I’ve also defended the protesters against Israel on this board while being labeled. We don’t have to subscribe to ideological dogmas. Many things can be true at once.

Israel is only ever able to tip toe into Lebanon through the ground since they agreed to leave in 2000. Typically they just stop and turn around after heavy Hezbollah fighting. Despite the death of key leadership, these people have an ideology that transcends one leader, or several of them. I do not see history changing this time around. I don't expect Israel to take much ground. Ants have tunnels all over the place, and they just keep streaming out from the Earth like a portal from Hell that never closes.

I know they have specific goals along the border, so whatever it is they better get them done quickly.

originally posted by: SteamyAmerican
a reply to: putnam6

Handcuffing Israel?

Is that what we are doing when we send them $ and bombs?

Because maybe I missed something but no matter what nation in the west that says something to try and provide a truce or peace-deal in the region, is immediately blindsided by a new Israeli attack or a reneg by the Palestinian side on terms.

Now I know how this started and questions linger there, but it seems as though Bibi is going it alone even with regards to his own people’s wishes.

This train has left the station and Netanyahu keeps moving the go-posts for what a “victory” means.

Yes Delbert, concerning how America's relationship used to be with Israel, the current US administration is wishy-washy whereas in the past American support was ironclad both publically and behind the scenes.

There's a difference between unconditional support and conditional support.

BTW military aid is not given it is bought and paid for by Israel, who also supply America with thier warfare tech discoveries, those dollars keep the MIC happy and employ thousands of Americans.

The aerospace and defense sector of our economy is essential to a strong economy, and if we are going to have an ally in the region it needs to have similar values. Do I trust them no, I don't, but who is trustworthy anymore? Especially in the Middle East

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Good luck, Bibi...when you get nuked, don't call us! Okay?

We've got other 'fish to fry'...sorry.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Understandable. Truly.

I guess I’m most upset with the US for being complicit and aiding the destruction of others in their affairs and those of their enemy. Whatever the angle one sides with.

I believe whereas we should concern ourselves with our own issues. Ie victims of Helene. Without derailing I’m just lamenting there is a lot of woe in the world and we seem to be more concerned with that than our own henhouse.

Alas…

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: Dalamax
Special military action or is it a declaration of war?

a reply to: putnam6

Either way, all they have to do is take out the top leaders.... The four or five men who supply the money, weapons, plans.

And keep taking them out with cruise missiles until nobody wants to be a top leader.

The organization then collapses... And all the fighters return to their home towns.

From what I’ve read they’ve already replaced Nasrallah and also issued a statement saying they have replacements for their other top
leaders in case of sickness, injury, etc…. Taking these guys out is not the slam dunk you think it is. I believe we just had this conversation, the terrorist aren’t going anywhere, there will always be someone to take their place.

He said the commanders killed have already been replaced.

“There are deputy commanders and there are replacements in case a commander is wounded in any post.”

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originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: Dalamax
Special military action or is it a declaration of war?

a reply to: putnam6

Either way, all they have to do is take out the top leaders.... The four or five men who supply the money, weapons, plans.

And keep taking them out with cruise missiles until nobody wants to be a top leader.

The organization then collapses... And all the fighters return to their home towns.

Until the dust settles and it all kicks off again with the leaders in foreign countries 🤷🏽‍♂️ I like the idea but have a question, if it’s execution by cruise missile why do they need a land army?

a reply to: SteamyAmerican

That’s fair.

The counter is worth a ponder though. If we all agree there are adversaries worth pushing back on, like China and Iran, do we do it when it doesn’t spill our blood? Is it better to spill money?

Or do we wait till there’s an axis that can truly equal us?

There’s no perfect answer to be fair.

It’s just like the conundrum of do you buy foreign oil while it’s cheap, or drill your own? Both sides have a fair point, but I suppose it takes an investors attitude to inflict short term pain for long term gain.

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Iran is preparing to launch an "imminent" ballistic missile attack on Israel, according to a senior White House official.
The Pentagon is actively supporting Israel in its preparations to defend agains the attack, according to the official who was not authorized to speak publicly. A direct attack on Israel will carry "severe consequences for Iran," they said.

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Iran are denying this according to Al Jazeera.

a reply to: putnam6

White House - Iran prepping to launch a ballistic missile:

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Israel-Lebanon latest: Iran preparing to launch missile attack on Israel, says US, as Israel invades southern Lebanon - BBC News

a reply to: onestonemonkey

Beat me to it!

originally posted by: worldstarcountry

I know they have specific goals along the border, so whatever it is they better get them done quickly.

The Lebanese have proven as a people completely incapable of keeping their border with Israel free of Iranian proxies, therefor they relinquish the right to man that border until they can be trusted to keep terror away from northern Israeli towns. A small parcel of land needs taking by Israel up to the Litani in order to keep the border safe. When the Lebanese go for the option of peace with Israel and they turf out the Iranian influence then they might get this land back. No more pc bs after 7/10. A new order exists in the locality and Israel really doesn't have to bow down to anyone when it is more than capable of silencing them if the gloves are removed. The true answer is the elimination of the Iranian regime. Only then will we see a possibility for peace.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Such a shame too.

Lebanon was often the bastion of multi religious peace in the region. They still have quite a sizable Christian population, yet the Islamic wishes of another nation are subjugated to the whole country.