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originally posted by: CosmicFocus
a reply to: putnam6
Despite a lot of excited and non-relevant wording in this piece, the object was obviously one of those balloons.
"One email from Canadian Brigadier-General Eric Laforest described the UFO as a 'cylindrical object.'
'Top quarter is metallic, remainder white. 20-foot wire hanging below with a package of some sort suspended,' Brig. Gen. Laforest wrote. 'Best description that we have.'"
Just so you know, we have been hugely lied to about these various affairs. Several months before the first incident, I spotted one of the same damned balloons incredibly high and moving from the southwest to the northeast as it passed over the Austin, Texas, area. I used binocs and was amazed about how high the object was. I told two people about the sighting at the time. Just to be clear, it was a huge white balloon and with a slim, black rectangular object below it. Never was any reported coming across Texas from the southwest.
originally posted by: billxam1
a reply to: nugget1
After reading your post, my mind immediately came up with this. What if the (U.S.) military hid in plain sight munitions that are capable of downing UAPs. Hid them by making them a standard loadout, able to take down human aircraft and with the ability to also target the gravity drives of the UAP.
Or, as the rumor goes, the aircraft radar works at a specific frequency that disrupts the UAPs ability to avoid said munitions.
The suspected spy balloon was one of four airborne objects gunned out of the sky by the US over eight days of February 2023. One unusual feature of the newly released UFO photo is that it had already been designated 'unclassified' within just days of these 19-month-old incidents
Certainly the failure to provide more information has fed conspiracy theories,' as he told CTVNews.ca, 'but the military will likely accept that outcome over disclosing information that may help an adversary identify defensive weaknesses
ichef.bbci.co.uk...
originally posted by: L.A.B
a reply to: putnam6
Pardon the phrase, but it's 'a weather balloon'.
The suspected spy balloon was one of four airborne objects gunned out of the sky by the US over eight days of February 2023. One unusual feature of the newly released UFO photo is that it had already been designated 'unclassified' within just days of these 19-month-old incidents
Certainly the failure to provide more information has fed conspiracy theories,' as he told CTVNews.ca, 'but the military will likely accept that outcome over disclosing information that may help an adversary identify defensive weaknesses
From the article.
It isn't aliens or some secret government tech. It was a set of four balloons shot down, this one with a different shaped payload at the end of the tether.
ichef.bbci.co.uk...
And it's a pretty long tether. This would cast either a long shadow up the side of the balloon, as someone has suggested, or for the payload to land on top of the balloon when it hit the ground. Both of these are plausiable in the image.
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: L.A.B
a reply to: putnam6
Pardon the phrase, but it's 'a weather balloon'.
The suspected spy balloon was one of four airborne objects gunned out of the sky by the US over eight days of February 2023. One unusual feature of the newly released UFO photo is that it had already been designated 'unclassified' within just days of these 19-month-old incidents
Certainly the failure to provide more information has fed conspiracy theories,' as he told CTVNews.ca, 'but the military will likely accept that outcome over disclosing information that may help an adversary identify defensive weaknesses
From the article.
It isn't aliens or some secret government tech. It was a set of four balloons shot down, this one with a different shaped payload at the end of the tether.
ichef.bbci.co.uk...
And it's a pretty long tether. This would cast either a long shadow up the side of the balloon, as someone has suggested, or for the payload to land on top of the balloon when it hit the ground. Both of these are plausiable in the image.
Im fine with it being a "weather balloon" but why are there no clear pictures of it in the air or on the ground if it's a generic no-threat weather balloon?
Simply, show the now deflated balloon with its tethers and payload instead we get grainy low-resolution pictures that make one question WITF are they hiding
Not to mention if it's a no-threat obviously identifiable weather balloon why shoot it down in the first place?
originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: L.A.B
a reply to: putnam6
Pardon the phrase, but it's 'a weather balloon'.
The suspected spy balloon was one of four airborne objects gunned out of the sky by the US over eight days of February 2023. One unusual feature of the newly released UFO photo is that it had already been designated 'unclassified' within just days of these 19-month-old incidents
Certainly the failure to provide more information has fed conspiracy theories,' as he told CTVNews.ca, 'but the military will likely accept that outcome over disclosing information that may help an adversary identify defensive weaknesses
From the article.
It isn't aliens or some secret government tech. It was a set of four balloons shot down, this one with a different shaped payload at the end of the tether.
ichef.bbci.co.uk...
And it's a pretty long tether. This would cast either a long shadow up the side of the balloon, as someone has suggested, or for the payload to land on top of the balloon when it hit the ground. Both of these are plausiable in the image.
Im fine with it being a "weather balloon" but why are there no clear pictures of it in the air or on the ground if it's a generic no-threat weather balloon?
Simply, show the now deflated balloon with its tethers and payload instead we get grainy low-resolution pictures that make one question WITF are they hiding
Not to mention if it's a no-threat obviously identifiable weather balloon why shoot it down in the first place?
That's why the Canadian government said they didn't want to release the picture because it would cause more questions then answers.
If you read the CTV article I posted earlier and the letter from the government to CTV they said they didn't recover any of the debris because it was in the mountains somewhere in the Yukon and they didn't recover it.
originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: L.A.B
Why let China float a potentially dangerous large platform over the heart of America for 4 days, but shoot down harmless weather balloons and 4-H experiments, over the next 2 weeks?
So small, we missed and had to fire again!: www.military.com...
originally posted by: WaESN
originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: L.A.B
Why let China float a potentially dangerous large platform over the heart of America for 4 days, but shoot down harmless weather balloons and 4-H experiments, over the next 2 weeks?
So small, we missed and had to fire again!: www.military.com...
Because of stupid public paranoia
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: WaESN
originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: L.A.B
Why let China float a potentially dangerous large platform over the heart of America for 4 days, but shoot down harmless weather balloons and 4-H experiments, over the next 2 weeks?
So small, we missed and had to fire again!: www.military.com...
Because of stupid public paranoia
So if you can talk me through the process, I followed the events fairly closely contemporaneously, but want to see if we are on the same page.
We have the China balloon and the Lake Huron balloon then here comes the Yukon balloon. Canada fighter jet scrambles to take a look and sees a balloon with some payload, one assumes he would need authorization to shoot it down first of all. But secondly it makes it seem our skies are filled with innocent radio and weather balloons, wouldn't we hear of the incidents all the time there we had 3 instances all at once and we don't hear about balloons at all anymore.
Kind of amazing the first time the general public spots an high altitude balloon it's a Chinese alleged spy balloon. Then we have no more reports or sightings
Not to mention while we were probably overly paranoid, military rules of engagement are not based on public paranoia.
originally posted by: WaESN
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: WaESN
originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: L.A.B
Why let China float a potentially dangerous large platform over the heart of America for 4 days, but shoot down harmless weather balloons and 4-H experiments, over the next 2 weeks?
So small, we missed and had to fire again!: www.military.com...
Because of stupid public paranoia
So if you can talk me through the process, I followed the events fairly closely contemporaneously, but want to see if we are on the same page.
We have the China balloon and the Lake Huron balloon then here comes the Yukon balloon. Canada fighter jet scrambles to take a look and sees a balloon with some payload, one assumes he would need authorization to shoot it down first of all. But secondly it makes it seem our skies are filled with innocent radio and weather balloons, wouldn't we hear of the incidents all the time there we had 3 instances all at once and we don't hear about balloons at all anymore.
Kind of amazing the first time the general public spots an high altitude balloon it's a Chinese alleged spy balloon. Then we have no more reports or sightings
Not to mention while we were probably overly paranoid, military rules of engagement are not based on public paranoia.
After the fuss about the Chinese balloon, they knee-jerked and started looking for, and shooting down, any unidentified floating object, to placate the public/media. Not sure what the other 2 were, but most likely also quite innocent. I think they then realised how ridiculous this all was and with media attention having moved on, quietly stopped.
Our military are not necessarily any more intelligent - or impervious to public pressure - than our politicians.
Nice try, but, I think you forgot to consider the resemblance to the tether UFO images, which seems a far more likely explanation that what we are seeing in this image is a similar optical illusion/effect sometimes called "bokeh". The actual shape of the real object is nearly irrelevant in that case, but we may know exactly what the object was anyway. It did have an instrument package.
originally posted by: Boomer1947
That will cause the circular bottom of the cylindrical balloon to appear as a "C" instead of an "O".
Maybe that's what we're seeing.
Good job noticing that! I immediately recognized the shape not only from the STS-75 tether incident but I have such a lens in my collection of lenses for my 35mm camera so I see a shape like that when it's out of focus, regardless of the shape of the light source.
originally posted by: EatZeeBugs
Looks the same as the STS-75 Tether UFO Incident ... which was debunked
Yes it seems the probability is better than 99% that's what was shot down, a $15 balloon with instrument package, that required two sidewinder missiles costing nearly half a million dollars each to shoot down, because the first one missed.
originally posted by: WaESN
It wasn't a weather balloon, it was an amateur radio pico balloon, number K9YO-15. This has been known since about 2 days after the incident (when it was revealed the balloon was in the exact same location and stopped transmitting at the exact same time)
www.leonarddavid.com...
The latest update on info in the Daily Mail, with further descriptions of the balloon, further confirms this (though, being typical journalists, they don't actually make the connection)
www.dailymail.co.uk...