California Spent $24 Billion On Homelessness Since 2019 - Guess What Happened

Since 2019, The State of California has squandered $24 Billion on fighting homelessness.

At the time, there may have been around 150,000 homeless people in CA.

After the money was spent, they now have around 180,000 homeless people in CA.

Great.

Apparently crony NGOs got all of it, and commenced to donate big to Democrat campaigns.

CA Taxpayers bilked again and slapped silly. 🤣🤣 How's it feel? Excuses and reasons galore. 🗡

Despite California Spending $24 Billion On It Since 2019, Homelessness Increased. What Happened?

Since 2019, California has spent about $24 billion on homelessness, but in this five-year period, homelessness increased by about 30,000, to more than 181,000.

Since 2019, California has spent about $24 billion on homelessness, but in this five-year period, homelessness increased by about 30,000, to more than 181,000. Put differently, California spent the equivalent of about $160,000 per person (based on the 2019 figure) over the last five years. With this level of spending, it was reasonable to expect that homelessness would decline substantially. What went wrong?

There are three major problems with California’s homelessness policies that are facilitating this increase. One problem is a significant lack of oversight and information about homelessness spending. The state auditor recently evaluated this spending and submitted a report that highlights the failure of the state to track spending and outcomes:

Utter lies I tell you!

There is a lot more than that.

How much of those 180,000 were born and raised in California?

I bet quite a few are from different states originally and came to Cali for the warm winters and multiple other reasons.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
How much of those 180,000 were born and raised in California?

I bet quite a few are from different states originally and came to Cali for the warm winters and multiple other reasons.

Maybe some did, but research has shown that the large majority of homeless stay near the location they were at when they first became homeless. Mainly because they don’t have the resources to go anywhere else.

a reply to: Boomer1947

From personal experience of actually being homeless in Australia, I always used to drive up North in the winter than back home down south during the summer months.

Just thinking, if I lived in some random state in the US that got cold during winter, then I would have definitely headed straight to California. Doubt Im the only one who has the same mind set.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
How much of those 180,000 were born and raised in California?

I bet quite a few are from different states originally and came to Cali for the warm winters and multiple other reasons.

WTF does that have to do with the money being squandered and looted? lol lol lol 🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: JadedGhost
How much of those 180,000 were born and raised in California?

I bet quite a few are from different states originally and came to Cali for the warm winters and multiple other reasons.

WTF does that have to do with the money being squandered and looted? lol lol lol 🤣🤣🤣

I guess the point is that a lot of those 180,000 people have most likely originated from red states… California is literally carrying the failed policies of the right.

After the money was spent, they now have around 180,000 homeless people in CA.

More like ''while'' the money was being spent. Rounding out, that is about 4.5 billion per year. Homelessness continues to increase year by year throughout the nation. When people become homeless, those that can migrate to those places that attempt to provide better services for that condition. An increase of thirty thousand people reporting homelessness in that five year period measures out to an increase of around six percent per year, in line with the over all increase in homelessness across the nation.

a reply to: JadedGhost

california used to maybe still does ship them to hawaii www.kitv.com... now hawaii is shipping them back

california ships them around ca and then to oregon sfstandard.com...

After California, Oregon is the second-most-popular destination, making up roughly 10% of the 92 clients in the program, according to data collected from the time of its launch to Aug. 2. Nevada and Texas are third, each accounting for 6 clients. Los Angeles, Sacramento and Humboldt were the top three destinations for homeless people traveling within California, according to the Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing and the Human Services Agency.

so ca is the one sending homless to red and other blue states and that is just for one month(see graph from sept to august)

the red states send migrants not homless out and about and i think they were sent to marthas vinyard and dc

en.wikipedia.org... now las vegas sent homless mental paitents to ca but they are a purple state last time i checked

Between July 2008 and April 2013, the state-run Rawson-Neal Psychiatric Hospital discharged 1,500 mental patients, sending them via taxi to a Greyhound bus station and on to cities across the U.S., sometimes while heavily medicated.[5] An investigation by The Sacramento Bee found that out of 1,000 patients given one-way bus tickets, more than 325 had been sent to California.[5] The investigation also found that dozens of relocated patients appeared to have been involved in crimes after they were discharged, including murder, attempted murder, assault, drug crimes, sex crimes, and theft, in addition to vagrancy-related offenses.[5] It also found that in some cases, the program had helped patients who had been accused of committing crimes in Las Vegas skip town.[5]

it goes on to continue to cover new york who has spent over 500k sending homeless people to (drum roll) to mostly red states and far off nations like purto rico and new zealand

The Guardian has suggested that New York City may have been the first American city with a homeless relocation program, starting in 1987.[1] As of 2017, the New York City Department of Homeless Services was spending $500,000 annually on relocation,[1][3] making it significantly larger than other schemes across the United States.[1] The Guardian reported that New York spent 20% of its budget on airfare to destinations such as Puerto Rico; Atlanta, Georgia; Orlando, Florida; the Dominican Republic; Mexico; and even New Zealand.[1] New York was also unusual for sponsoring moves for entire families.[1] Since 2017, New York City has offered Special One-Time Assistance (SOTA) grants to homeless shelter residents who have been earning a steady income.[13] The program funds one year of rent anywhere in the U.S. and Puerto Rico, and is only provided if the households have demonstrated that they will likely be able to earn enough to pay for rent themselves once the grant has ended.[13][14] New York City reported spending $89 million on SOTA vouchers to help 5,100 households move out of shelters between August 2017 and August 2019, of which nearly two-thirds moved out of the city, including 1,200 households that moved to Newark, New Jersey.[15] In December 2019, the city of Newark filed a federal lawsuit to stop the city of New York from sending people to live in the Newark area, charging that SOTA recipients were often being sent to live in uninhabitable conditions, lacking heat and electricity, and with "excessive vermin".[16]

but they also sent them to a fate worse then death being sent to new jersy.....those monsters

missionlocal.org...

Journey Home, run jointly by the Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing and the Human Services Agency, is a relatively new program, initiated in September of last year. But San Francisco busing the homeless out of town is not new. Between January 2005 and June 2023, the city transported 11,232 homeless people out of San Francisco via the Homeward Bound program (which may or may not have been named after the Simon and Garfunkel tune).

and that is the worst of the 3 programs ca has to remove homless from there borders

www.politifact.com...

Newsom’s statement is contradicted by San Francisco’s own point in time homeless counts. Those reports are conducted every two years. They consistently show a large majority of people surveyed said they lived in San Francisco prior to becoming homeless. A smaller share said they lived in another California county. Often the smallest percentage said they lived out of state before becoming homeless in San Francisco. The 2019 report found 70 percent had lived in the city; 22 percent in another California county and 8 percent out-of-state. Of that 70 percent, more than half, or 55 percent, reported living in San Francisco for a decade or more before losing their home. Just 6 percent said they had lived in the city for less than a year. Going back a dozen years, the city’s 2007 point-in-time count shows 62 percent reported being from San Francisco; about 16 percent were from outside the state and 15 percent were from another county in the state. "The data shows (Newsom’s statement) is completely and totally incorrect," said Jennifer Friedenback, executive director of San Francisco-based Coalition of Homelessness. "Newsom knows better, by the way."

but sure those nasty red states (nevada can be kind of shady lol)

www.cnn.com... but dont take my word how about the autor of the report on homlessness in ca......

Kushel’s report dispelled some myths. Number one, that many people on the street don’t want a home. Not true, says Kushel. “Participants overwhelmingly wanted permanent housing,” she concludes in the report. Number two, that many people on the streets of California are not from California. There’s a widely held belief that many people become homeless elsewhere, and come to California for the weather and the more liberal approach to homelessness. And therefore, California does not owe them anything. Not true, says Kushel. “Nine out of 10 people lost their stable housing here. These are Californians,” she said. “We have to create the housing for all Californians.”

but sure orange and now i guess red state man bad?

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: JadedGhost
How much of those 180,000 were born and raised in California?

I bet quite a few are from different states originally and came to Cali for the warm winters and multiple other reasons.

WTF does that have to do with the money being squandered and looted? lol lol lol 🤣🤣🤣

I guess the point is that a lot of those 180,000 people have most likely originated from red states… California is literally carrying the failed policies of the right.

Well done.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
Why are people moving from Cali to red states in record numbers?
Do you know how you win the U-Haul award?
Did you know that so many people moved out of Cali that they lost a congressional seat?
Did you know that Cali is on track to losing 5 more seats by 2030?
thecensusproject.org...

No one wants to touch on the real problem. The so-called nonprofits that eat up that government money. Any accountability for them? Nah, they tend to be run by friends and/or former politicians! Party loyalty and a few kickbacks is all it takes to be ignored.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: JadedGhost
How much of those 180,000 were born and raised in California?

I bet quite a few are from different states originally and came to Cali for the warm winters and multiple other reasons.

WTF does that have to do with the money being squandered and looted? lol lol lol 🤣🤣🤣

I guess the point is that a lot of those 180,000 people have most likely originated from red states… California is literally carrying the failed policies of the right.

No, they are from right at home in CA. 🤣🤣🤣

You still deflected away from the MONEY you ding bat 😃

If they were from "Red States", Democrats would have been screaming for 5 years. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is a Left Wing Loot scheme 💥

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: JadedGhost
How much of those 180,000 were born and raised in California?

I bet quite a few are from different states originally and came to Cali for the warm winters and multiple other reasons.

WTF does that have to do with the money being squandered and looted? lol lol lol 🤣🤣🤣

I guess the point is that a lot of those 180,000 people have most likely originated from red states… California is literally carrying the failed policies of the right.

The level of denial is staggering.

Now I understand how people can vote for Kamala.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: JadedGhost
How much of those 180,000 were born and raised in California?

I bet quite a few are from different states originally and came to Cali for the warm winters and multiple other reasons.

WTF does that have to do with the money being squandered and looted? lol lol lol 🤣🤣🤣

I guess the point is that a lot of those 180,000 people have most likely originated from red states… California is literally carrying the failed policies of the right.

California has had a homeless problem for years. 🤦‍♂️ Legalizing marijuana helped increase their numbers. In fact, the whole west coast went legal and the populations, including homeless boomed. It overwhelmed them. Add in the loose southern border where illegal immigrants entered to meet up with blue states that already had a heavy Hispanic population and a tsunami of people with unlimited housing options, easy on crime and 'no problemo' on drugs.....it was the perfect storm of failure. To top it off, corrupt government agents/agencies skimming billions off the tax dollars supposedly to use for handling the influx of people and the people already there, you simply can't fight government corruption, at least it isn't very easy. California having only 30k extra homeless after all the years of their own failures, even if they are from other states isn't much considering approximately 80 million plus immigrants over the last 15 years or so in the USA isn't much. And with that amount of money, a home, land and many other amenities could have been afforded their set up and care.

It's offensive for you to even suggest CA is carrying other state's homeless as almost every state has a homeless population that has only grown over the years. Percentage wise, CA's homeless has shrunk if you think about it. It's only an increase of approximately 21,666 per year. Peanuts. Meanwhile many other states have seen their homeless rates increase much, much more.

a reply to: JadedGhost

Most homeless folks aren't driving anything but their lamberfeeties.

You still deflected away from the MONEY you ding bat

This poster has no call to be calling names here. NONE. Actually this poster has no call whatsoever to be calling names. It is a total breach of manners.

The headline stated a statistic and proceeded to ask readers to ''guess what''

OP then began to offer a personal opinion on that original question. This is evidenced by the word used to describe those expenditures as ''squandered''. Several replies have questioned that opinion and provided perspectives to counter the opinion of the original poster. All, on topic.

Yet it seems that the OP is under the impression that their opinion owns the thread. It does not. I think the OP here owes us all an apology

a reply to: xuenchen

If a hospital had a mortality rate and spent 24 billion to decrease it, and instead, raised it. . . . would you go to this hospital?

No.

So why do people vote democrat?

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof

You still deflected away from the MONEY you ding bat

This poster has no call to be calling names here. NONE. Actually this poster has no call whatsoever to be calling names. It is a total breach of manners.

The headline stated a statistic and proceeded to ask readers to ''guess what''

OP then began to offer a personal opinion on that original question. This is evidenced by the word used to describe those expenditures as ''squandered''. Several replies have questioned that opinion and provided perspectives to counter the opinion of the original poster. All, on topic.

Yet it seems that the OP is under the impression that their opinion owns the thread. It does not. I think the OP here owes us all an apology

Well getting to the gist of part of the issue in CA, as per the article:

The auditor attempted to closely evaluate the costs and benefits for five separate homelessness programs, though they only found data that permitted this for two of those programs.

More broadly, the failure of investing in adequate information technology infrastructure and data collection within California’s state government has been a chronic problem and has been very costly. In 2020, California’s antiquated hardware and software within the Employment and Development Department (EDD) was a key factor in about $32 billion in unemployment benefits fraud. The department’s computer system is based on 1980s architecture running 1950s software.

It's almost like they're doing this on purpose.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: Boomer1947

From personal experience of actually being homeless in Australia, I always used to drive up North in the winter than back home down south during the summer months.

Just thinking, if I lived in some random state in the US that got cold during winter, then I would have definitely headed straight to California. Doubt Im the only one who has the same mind set.

Personally, I would try to do that also, because it's the reasonable thing to do. But it sounds like you had a car. Almost none of the homeless around where I live (near Santa Cruz, California) own anything other than the dirty clothes they are wearing and whatever possessions they can scrounge and load into a stolen supermarket shopping cart. A lot of them also seem to be mentally disabled (probably contributed to them being homeless in the first place) and can't really hold a thought for more than an hour or two at a time.

a reply to: StoutBroux

Yes, the information available from state authorities and included in the article does speak to one part of the homeless problem in that state though to limit the discussion to only one aspect of the homeless problem is like opening one eye while closing the other. The accused drifter chose to add to the thread in a broader discussion but the OP refused to discuss on that wider topic choosing instead to accuse them of drifting and to name call that poster.

California has many problems, several of which are reasons I moved away from there. And even though I will never ever move back there, this whole approach to treating that state as an isolated failure understates the larger questions and possible answers to dealing with modern and rapidly changing societies that a more mature people should be engaged in.