August 2024 MPOX and the assymetrical trade

Hello all,

I am not a financial advisor, do not take my advice at face value. Do your own research.

An assymetrical trade in the markets is where you observe something, it could be company insiders buying or selling a lot of stock. It could be a company that is signing deals with the government to provide a service and even though it's being reported (no insider trading stuff), it's not being reported at a large scale. Some things are right in your face and people just don't notice. Here is one of them.

The World Health Organization has declared monkey pox (MPOX) as a public health emergency.

WHO Director-General declares mpox outbreak a public health emergency of international concern

We saw what happened to the markets when the last health emergency occurred. Yet the markets keep going up. This is a historical time of the year where the markets are very volitile and this health emergency might be the catalyst.

Airports in Asia are already implementing protocols.

Mpox Screening Introduced at Airports Worldwide Amid Rising Concerns Over Global Health Security

There are several ways to play this in the markets but I'm not here to give you advice, nor would I even if I was compelled to. Let's see how this plays out together.

I have no clue how to play the market with something like this, no extra money we can afford to put at risk either. ..The wife and I are older and we have most of our cash in the banks where we do not have to wait for stocks to go up if we need to take out money. I suppose some people might be able to analyze things and find some profits, but if the old style smallpox vaccine actually pretty well protects you from mpox, why not just produce the small pox vaccine again and give it to people. I got vaccinated when I was young and it was supposed to give lifetime protection for smallpox. You still get sick if you get mpox with the small pox vaccination, but not too sick that it is life threatening. That is what I read on one immunology site I read articles on

a reply to: rickymouse

You are correct and here's the reciept.

Smallpox/Monkeypox Vaccine
(JYNNEOS™): What You Need to Know

That being said, you cannot rule out the fact that any disruption in the supply chain would be another blow to our economy. Yes, we have recovered and healed the supply chains and I hope we learned some things along the way.

a reply to: MauiWaui

It's just more BS.

a reply to: watchitburn

I agree. You can't argue that something is going on, whether it's propaganda or a fear mongering scheme. Look at how easily people fell in line with the last time this happened. A lot of people still trust the WHO, no idea why, but they do.

I might be wrong, if I am, I'll gladly accept the L that comes along with that. Your response is exactly why this is an assymetrical trade. A small bet that can pay off 10x and if you're wrong, you didn't lose much of anything.

a reply to: MauiWaui

If one lends any credence to the Deagle population projections, one might be paranoid enough to consider that the next vaccine will be a kill shot, (a catalyst to a base), if the covid type isn't already.

It's going to be very difficult to get folks to roll-up those sleeves again. Probably a psychological ploy to get people coming and going. You get the shot and eventually you croak. You don't get the shot, you catch whatever is released and you're either maimed or/and you croak.

Oh , wait....🤔

😬

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

I think it's been general knowledge that the CV was a test run and the next one will be the kill shot.

The SPARS Pandemic, 2025-2028

Going back to my premise, we could be going into not only a recession but a depression. Put your chips on the board carefully.

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

It's going to be very difficult to get folks to roll-up those sleeves again.

I can see the possibility of a presidential EO requiring everyone to submit to vaccination or lose access to bank accounts, SSi/SSDI, their job, ability to enter stores, etc.

If the timing is right mail-in voting may be the only option come November.

Never let a good crisis go to waste, even if you have to create the crisis in order to get people to fall in line with the pre-planned agendas.

a reply to: MauiWaui

How about companies that sell sanitary products? Wouldn’t their stock prices reflect MPox movement across the globe? Unlike Covid, MPox isn’t airborne other than droplets, so products like Lysol spray and Clorox wipes could skyrocket.
As always we should watch what members of congress are trading. Pelosi usually has the heads up.

a reply to: rickymouse

This is interesting. Everyone 52 or younger probably does not have the smallpox vaccine. People 44 and younger most likely doesn't have the smallpox vaccine, depending on what month they stopped giving it routinely.

The United States stopped routine smallpox vaccinations in 1972 after the disease was eradicated in the country. The World Health Organization (WHO) declared smallpox eliminated in 1980, and today the virus only exists in research laboratories.
The smallpox vaccine is still used to protect certain people, such as those who work with the virus. The CDC also recommends that people who need a smallpox vaccination for their job get a booster shot every three years. The United States also has a supply of smallpox vaccine in case of an outbreak, which is unlikely.

Taking this into account, CV was aimed at the elderly or people with other health issues. MPOX is aimed at anyone under 44.

a reply to: TheLieWeLive

Those companies, like Unilever, have so many products. One increase in sanitary wipes isn't going to move the needle on such a big corporation.

I like the way you think though, you're on the right track.

a reply to: MauiWaui

In 2022, there is now an ongoing Mpox outbreak involving multiple countries on different continents, predominantly in the men who have sex with men (MSM) population, with a presentation involving predominantly genital lesions.[18] In a cohort of 595 confirmed cases of Mpox in Spain in 2022, 99% of cases were found to be in the MSM population, with the lesions predominantly affecting the genital, perineal, or perianal areas. The study also identified inguinal lymphadenopathy as a predominant feature suggesting that sexual transmission was the main mode of transmission.[19] Germany reported 1304 confirmed cases as of 6th July 2022, again mainly in the MSM population.[20] Sequencing data from various countries suggests that the 2022 epidemic is caused by the West African clade of the Mpox virus.[19][21] However, emerging data suggest that the present outbreak may have a newly emerging clade.[22]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

The mode of transmission is similar to MRSA and monkeypox has a much lower morbidity. MRSA has been around for some time and hasn't had an impact on the stock market. Estimates are that up to 3% of the population actually has MRSA colonization of their skin or mucosa, asymptomatically. Of the people that aren't men that have sex with men that get a disease like Mpox it's invariably their female spouse, hook-up, or somebody they sexually assaulted. The only populations this kind of disease really goes rampant in are places with poor sanitation, lack of education, or in 1st world communities that have a significant hook-up culture.

It's a fake emergency. I don't think there are any real plays.

I don't even think there's a play with buying the correct pharma stock. Anybody taking an EUA mRNA vaccine for this disease is out of their mind after the abysmal efficacy of COVID vaccines and the outrageous risk profile. It's pretty nutty to take any vaccine for it currently considering it's a disease that has highly visible presentation. Even a literal prostitute should have little difficulty avoiding Monkeypox if they simply know what it looks like. I don't think the public is going to buy that this is a risk to them. Most people don't even get their COVID booster now and that's with four years of doom porn about it.

If you really want to play the markets with an advantage just follow Nancy Pelosi's trades. She's consistently outperformed the vast majority of the most highly regarded investors because she's notorious for insider trading. There are several others in Congress, but she's a top performer because she seems to have no shame.

a reply to: MauiWaui

If you can't hold it, you don't own it.

Buy gold and silver.

a reply to: ksihkahe

I appreciate your concise observations of our reality. You have to consider, you are obviously at an intelligence level that surpasses most regular folks. Consider the fact that most people are profoundly regarded (love the reference).

In this space, there are a lot of very intelligent people, if you don't get out much, you would believe most people in general are slightly below, at, or slightly above your ability to define the world we live in, in simple terms. This couldn't be further from the truth.

This is exactly why assymetrical trades work. Using your knowledge, insticts and methods of producing results, you miss opportunities like this.

The Nancy Pelosi trades are, by far, beating vegas odds by thousands of percentage points.

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: MauiWaui

If you can't hold it, you don't own it.

Buy gold and silver.

Very wise words. It's just so heavy, I remember the first time I held a 10oz bar of silver in my hand, it's heavy.

Unless you keep it secret and have a way to defend it, gold and silver is risky. Also, it's a store of wealth. If gold goes to 50k an ounce, a bottle of Mountain Dew will be $21. It's better than keeping cash, at least gold and silver go up with inflation while your cash pile dwindles. You'll get better returns investing.

At least the nurses will be ready

originally posted by: MauiWaui


Very wise words. It's just so heavy, I remember the first time I held a 10oz bar of silver in my hand, it's heavy.

Heavier or lighter than 10 oz of feathers?

originally posted by: MauiWaui
a reply to: rickymouse

This is interesting. Everyone 52 or younger probably does not have the smallpox vaccine. People 44 and younger most likely doesn't have the smallpox vaccine, depending on what month they stopped giving it routinely.

The United States stopped routine smallpox vaccinations in 1972 after the disease was eradicated in the country. The World Health Organization (WHO) declared smallpox eliminated in 1980, and today the virus only exists in research laboratories.
The smallpox vaccine is still used to protect certain people, such as those who work with the virus. The CDC also recommends that people who need a smallpox vaccination for their job get a booster shot every three years. The United States also has a supply of smallpox vaccine in case of an outbreak, which is unlikely.

Taking this into account, CV was aimed at the elderly or people with other health issues. MPOX is aimed at anyone under 44.

After ten years, the smallpox vaccine does start working less, so after forty years, it probably just gives people just a little protection against smallpox and Mpox. Maybe more against Mpox since it is far less of a threat to start with.