Canada rail shutdown locks out 9,000 workers after labor talks failed

Dammit one of our companies we sell for ships from Canada... right during our busiest season.

This isn't going to be long term is it?


Canada rail shutdown locks out 9,000 workers after labor talks failed

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Over 9,000 workers locked out at railways after talks fail
Railroads, Teamsters Union blame each other for stoppage
Canadian Pacific says deal "not within reach"
Some commuter rail lines in Canada disrupted
Stoppage could hit Canadian economy, cross-border trade with US


Aug 22 (Reuters) - Canada's top two railroads locked out more than 9,000 unionized workers, triggering an unprecedented rail stoppage that could cause billions of dollars worth of economic damage and roil North American supply chains.
The companies - Canadian National Railway (CN) (CNR.TO), opens new tab and Canadian Pacific Kansas City (CPKC) (CP.TO), opens new tab - and the Teamsters union blamed each other for the work stoppage after multiple rounds of talks failed to yield a new agreement.

a reply to: putnam6

Take a pay cut Tracy, pay and treat valuable rail workers properly.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: putnam6

Take a pay cut Tracy, pay and treat valuable rail workers properly.

Yeah, Im living on 1/3rd of what I made just 5 years ago, Sally.

a reply to: putnam6

Tracy Robinson makes a good 15 mill a year. A conductor for CN is barely reaching 100k a year.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: putnam6

Tracy Robinson makes a good 15 mill a year. A conductor for CN is barely reaching 100k a year.

I was raised in a country where you are worth what somebody is willing to pay you. Which applies to Tracy Robinson all the way down to the loaders

100k a year for a conductor...seems high AF but it is Canada

a reply to: putnam6

Tracy doesn't work the rails. Once upon a time workers did this sort of disruption all the time and it worked.
Government and businesses all over North America are in panic mode.

Right now those 9000 workers are worth a billion dollars a day. Wanna lick the boots of Tracy still?

The industry I work in will be heavily affected for sure. We will have a harder time getting fuel oils, and shipping product.

a reply to: strongfp

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: putnam6

Tracy doesn't work the rails. Once upon a time workers did this sort of disruption all the time and it worked.
Government and businesses all over North America are in panic mode.

Right now those 9000 workers are worth a billion dollars a day. Wanna lick the boots of Tracy still?

Bootlicking? such a quick socialistic response, Im just discussing the strike. You can tar and feather Tracy Robinson IDGAF

but

Canadian National Rail is worth 71 billion dollars, Robinson's contract was likely freely offered by Canadian National,true or false. Plus it's not like 15 million is out of line for a corporation with 9000 workers and 71 billion net worth, or is the CEO just supposed to make 100,000 too

She could give up her whole salary and it would cover how much of CNR's daily operations.

Canada railroading its workers. Go Turdeau.

Cheers

a reply to: putnam6

Yea, "socialist" response. Workers organizing isn't socialism. It's smart.

And I don't care. She needs to justify her enormous pay.
And she makes the executive decisions, the workers want better scheduling and be paid what they're worth.

These aren't like factory workers where their jobs can be off shored, we NEED them. Remember, a billion dollars a day is what they're worth now.

a reply to: Athetos

So will my work. We ship a lot by rail, and get steel shipped in by rail. I know we have a stock pile of work just in case, but, who knows how long this will go on for.

Hopefully a resolution is found quickly. Mainly, give the workers the scheduling changes they want. I know it's been a huge issue for a while now for them.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: putnam6

Yea, "socialist" response. Workers organizing isn't socialism. It's smart.

And I don't care. She needs to justify her enormous pay.
And she makes the executive decisions, the workers want better scheduling and be paid what they're worth.

These aren't like factory workers where their jobs can be off shored, we NEED them. Remember, a billion dollars a day is what they're worth now.

So where did I say, suggest, or infer, that Canadian Rail workers are like factory workers?

From what I'm reading what the companies have been offering for 9 months is approximately the same as other rail companies.


www.nbcnews.com...

The negotiations are stuck on issues related to the way rail workers are scheduled and concerns about rules designed to prevent fatigue and provide adequate rest to train crews. Both railroads had proposed shifting away from the existing system, which pays workers based on the miles in a trip, to an hourly system they said would make it easier to provide predictable time off.

The railroads said their contract offers have included raises consistent with recent deals in the industry. Engineers make about $150,000 a year on Canadian National while conductors earn $120,000, and CPKC says its wages are comparable.

“If railways are not picking up the goods that are coming in by ships, then pretty soon your terminals get filled up. And at that point you cannot take any vessels at the terminal anymore,” said Victor Pang, chief financial officer at the Vancouver Fraser Port Authority.

He pointed to the 13-day strike by 7,400 British Columbia dockworkers last summer, which manufacturers said blocked the flow of $500 million Canadian (US$368 million) worth of goods each day.

The Canadian government will probably pass "back to work" legislation fairly quickly in a deal isn't reached soon.

They did it recently with postal workers if I remember correctly

a reply to: putnam6

Get the deal done.

And make these sort of jobs desirable with good pay.

a reply to: strongfp

The added cost of wages is never passed up to the top. It’s passed down.

To us.

originally posted by: putnam6
This isn't going to be long term is it?

Doesn't look like it. They went into arbitration today. A forced arbitration.

The shutdown lasted 16 hours. And the laborers aren't happy they were forced back to work.

That's capitalism, though. Some businesses are too large and too important to fail, or shut down. Remember during the pandemic, our government decided chicken nuggets were too important to shut down, and all the meat industry laborers, mostly Hispanics, had to keep working and many of them died?

I mean, not a fair comparison, nobody will die here going back to work, but yeah -- the show must go on.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: putnam6

Take a pay cut Tracy, pay and treat valuable rail workers properly.

Yeah, Im living on 1/3rd of what I made just 5 years ago, Sally.

What happened, if you don't mind me asking?

Did you retire? Or change jobs? How did you lose 2/3 of the income so fast?