The Annunaki, Ishtar, and Genesis.

Ancient Sumeria had a ruler called Gudea who ruled from 2144 to 2124 BC. The first writings describing the Annunaki came from his reign. The Annunaki were mythical Godlike beings who, according to myth, came out of the ocean and taught the ancient people of the area how to live and have a civilization. They were venerated by the ancient Sumerians, Akkadians, Assyrians, and Babylonians.

Gudija (good-EEE-yah, no soft G sound at all) is how you would say “Land of the Goths” in Lithuanian, a language which in its present form is as ancient as Biblical Greek or Hebrew.

Ananasai would be plural for “pineapples” which probably weren’t discovered by the Old World until the 1500s CE because they are from Peru. However, it could have been the name of some second-tier vegetable which is no longer widely consumed, which was repurposed to name what we know as pineapples. Or, maybe explorers had somehow brought a few back 4,000 years ago without a competent, repeatable way to find what is now Peru again or had kept their travels a secret which was then lost at some point. It need not have been Peru because the fruit could have spread through South and Central America, Polynesia, or the Caribbean.

There is evidence of a Phoenician presence in the Bahamas. The Bimini Road is shaped like a Phoenician dock. It has been dated to be 2700 years old. It could have been an earthen causeway with wooden walls similar to the Aztec causeways across lake Texcoco. The top could have mineralized into beach rock, then the sides rotted away and the earthen fill under the mineralized beach rock could have washed away. Some archaeologists also think there is evidence some of the copper of the ancient Mediterranean and near East may have come from afar.

Suppose some exiles from Gudija had fallen into the hands of some chieftain from Babylon or Sumer and had to make the heartrending choice to starve or “work” for a living. The local ruler realized if he controlled them, he could weld wild tribes together into a strong, unified, powerful nation because the people could learn things from them like how to speak the same language clearly. He may have adopted the name of where they are from for his family name even though it means “land of the Goths.”

Suppose the ruler had them rowed out to sea and had them come to shore with some outfit to suggest they were not a threat but good, edible fruit, saying in a harmless tone of voice, “we’re the Ananasai.”

Suppose the ruler started a slave class with the descendants of these unfortunate Ananasai and brought them up thinking they were priests and priestesses of An. Suppose they were raised to think it was their divine role to show people things like clear speaking.

Suppose the descendants of the “ananasai” had to work in their own paradise or “porų daržas” (garden of couples) teaching people basic skills. Perhaps they each had their own porų daržas.

What skill? The Lithuanian word for pronunciation is ištarti (š=sh.) If they were called priests and priestesses of ištarimas, they might have been called Ištaris or Ištaria, perhaps truncated to…Ishtar? Maybe. Perhaps the leader of Babylon created a unified empire by teaching disparate tribes how to speak the same language?

Suppose something happened which caused two of the slaves to get wise that they were being exploited despite having been raised from birth to think it was their role to live in the garden called paradise and show the people basic verbal skills. They had to leave their role to avoid poisoning the whole slave class with rebellion. It may not have been what they ate so much as what they left out.

Suppose they were driven out of the garden and assigned a job of making statuary of the other priests and priestesses of An, who were their relatives. The statues assisted people when they couldn't get to a paradise garden. Word of their epiphany may have spread among the slaves anyway, and in a few generations,…

God was telling their descendant Abram, who also made devotional statues, to leave Ur which may have been Uruk, which was in Babylon, which may have contained the Tower of Babel, because all the slaves of Ishtar(imas) had quit and recalled their souls and no one in the kingdom of Babylon could speak the same language anymore, or speak clearly, anyway, and society was about to break down.

Don't let anyone trick you into believing what they choose for you regarding the things I discuss above. I have found that the Church gives priests the power to set conditions on whether a person receives salvation. It's in Q.585 and 613 of the Baltimore Catechism No. 3. The Church also believes that in order for their sacraments to transmit the saving power of Christ, the minister has to have valid intent, implying he only has to withhold intent to help you in order for you to think you're not being saved because you're believing something wrong. Do pray over this to God without a human intercessor.

YEah. a relationship with God is personal, and you do not need a person to speak for you except Jesus as your savior after accepting him and his sacrifice for you.

Laughably the newest topic on Youtube is the many podcasts featuring Catholic Priests authorized as Exorcists discussing what they do. Which I thought was odd, till one plainly said they've been instructed to spread the catechism.
Day late & a dollar short again on damage control.

Can only speak of my experience but they dodged discussing demons for the last 45yrs. But NOW they care?
Heheheheheheh.

Not to derail, have known since I was 12 as a Father was leering down the girls chests in CCD class that all was not on the up & up. Wasn't long after I decided I didn't need a intercessor to speak to God.

The Summerian's also have come to the forefront lately.
In Paranormal circles the old Summerian Gods, or Serpent Gods have popped up. It's been interesting to observe. Seems the NHI is pulling out all the stops with recycling all manner of old memes. Learning the actual history, as we know it anyway has been very welcome.

originally posted by: Solvedit
Ancient Sumeria had a ruler called Gudea who ruled from 2144 to 2124 BC. The first writings describing theAnnunaki came from his reign. The Annunaki were mythical Godlike beings who, according to myth, came out of the ocean and taught the ancient people of the area how to live and have a civilization. They were venerated by the ancient Sumerians, Akkadians, Assyrians, and Babylonians.

The Babylonian priests and priestesses of An need not have all come from any one place just because the first ones did. Ancient Hebrew is said to be not a part of the Indo-European language group so their people could have come from afar.

Nice thread dude(tte) 👍

Lovely piecing together of alternative narrative

a reply to: Solvedit

From the Wikipedia page on the Babylonian creation myth Enūma Eliš:

Berossus also gave an account of the sage Oannes, a sort of fish-man hybrid, who appeared from the sea and taught people all manner of knowledge, including writing, lawmaking, construction, mathematics, and agriculture;[4] Berossus presented the account of creation in the form of a speech given by the Oannes.[5][6] The neo-Platonist Damascius also gave a short version of the Babylonian cosmological view, which closely matches Enūma Eliš.[7]

I may have my Babylonian mythological names mixed up unless Oannes is one of the Annunaki? IDK.

It may be a stock racist trope to say the other peoples of the world needed whites to come down and educate them but there's no reason not to believe there can't be an ancient culture here or there which became more advanced by obliging some poor traveler to stay, then extracting all the knowledge they had. Myths would tend to spring up about where the knowledge came from.

Actually those items on their crowns are horns.



What if, four millenia ago, there had been an ancient seafaring family or trade guild of some kind which had discovered the New World and kept it a trade secret? What if they had brought copper ore and pineapples over but they were known only to a select few? The Lithuanian word is probably a loan word.

Someone said of the horned crowns: "those look like pineapples."

It is a stock racist trope that whites had to help start nonwhite civilizations.

However, Mesopatamia and the ancient Near East is where civilization started so critics can't say it is being suggested that they were uncivilized until educated by European whites.

Perhaps the ancient Babylonians simply used a few people from various places abroad to keep certain classes educated and in line. Perhaps they even deliberately created a class of people who would have to follow Babylon's orders because they were dependent on assistance of Priests of An? Soldiers and farmers ready to obey the king's beck and call in large numbers?