How Can This Be Possible??? FBI doesn't have access???

FBI dep. dir. Abbate says FBI still doesn't have access to all the encrypted accounts on the Trump shooter's emails.

How can this be possible??? You mean to tell me the NSA, CIA and FBI with all their TRILLIONS of dollars in spy gear can't get into a 20 year old's email accounts???? How is this even possible??

If this is true, then ALL of the 3 letter agencies need to be dismantled and decommissioned! Period.

FBI still doesn't have access to shooter's online activity

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Easy, even if they are using rainbow tables to figure out the password hash. It can still take some time if the password was sufficiently complex. The chart below goes over some of the possibilities. If for example the shooter used a password that was at least 12 characters long and had a complexity of an upper case letter, lower case letter, number and a symbol. They may never crack the password. So for example a exceedingly complex password like this "A1! 2b@ #3C d4$ E%5" could take over that 34K year time.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Easy, even if they are using rainbow tables to figure out the password hash. It can still take some time if the password was sufficiently complex. The chart below goes over some of the possibilities. If for example the shooter used a password that was at least 12 characters long and had a complexity of an upper case letter, lower case letter, number and a symbol. They may never crack the password. So for example a exceedingly complex password like this "A1! 2b@ #3C d4$ E%5" could take over that 34K year time.

Yes, but they don't have to crack a password.

Once a warrant is issued the Net Admin would just reset the password and provide the info.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Those accounts very well may be with services hosted in other countries.

There’s levels of encryption that can’t be broken by super computers right now. Any service worth its salt will lock an account with too many attempts.

a reply to: MykeNukem

You are assuming that he is using an email account that is subject to US jurisdiction. Service providers may deny the government access if the emails are stored abroad. In that case the FBI would have to work with host country.

Also we don't if he was sending encrypted emails. Even if they got into this account. They'd need to know his private key if he used something like PGP. It's easy enough to get a chrome plugin that would encrypt your emails for you.

I don't know what the exact scenario is here. But it sounds like this guy may have been working with a foreign government.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: MykeNukem

You are assuming that he is using an email account that is subject to US jurisdiction. Service providers may deny the government access if the emails are stored abroad. In that case the FBI would have to work with host country.

Also we don't if he was sending encrypted emails. Even if they got into this account. They'd need to know his private key if he used something like PGP. It's easy enough to get a chrome plugin that would encrypt your emails for you.

I don't know what the exact scenario is here. But it sounds like this guy may have been working with a foreign government.

Agreed if that's the scenario they are dealing with.

But, if that's the scenario they are dealing with, there is much that they haven't revealed as to the sophistication of the shooter.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

do you honestly believe this? LOL..I hope not. THEY are in on it..

a reply to: MykeNukem

Better to sound ignorant than to alert the person on the other end they are onto him.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: MykeNukem

Better to sound ignorant than to alert the person on the other end they are onto him.

Oh, absolutely.

I'm just pointing out that there are shenanigans afoot...

a reply to: grey580

Okay, so what if he was (working with some foreign government)...what did they do? Just tell him..."Yah, DO IT!" (??) They clearly didn't give him any advanced tools, training or equipment (not that he needed any with all the gaping security holes).

I don't believe for one millisecond that the NSA can't hack about anything they want (short of a OTP type message...which can't be deciphered no matter how many thousand years someone tries), but even if it was something, this is just another deflection. If this kid had some exotic equipment which wasn't attainable anywhere but some foreign government, then this would be different, but he didn't. He had an el-cheapo AR-15 and garbage ammo.

Granted, it would be nice to know who was 'programming' this scumbag, but that doesn't change what happened, nor why it was allowed to happen...UNLESS those coded messages went back to the people who were 'supposed' to be protecting Trump, and they told him where to set up. Otherwise, they're just background information...and possibly more terror groups to go hunt down.

a reply to: rdambroso

Not saying 'they' aren't in on it, but to grey's point above (about sounding ignorant), why would they reveal this information if they were in on it?

Why not instead say...the kid's online accounts revealed nothing, and leave it at that. No one would be the wiser.

a reply to: grey580

You are assuming that he is using an email account that is subject to US jurisdiction. Service providers may deny the government access if the emails are stored abroad. In that case the FBI would have to work with host country.

Mate the word Treason and Presidential Assassin are attached to this guys name .

He has no rights .

The NSA cracked this guys Phone , Email and everything else the moment he squeezed the trigger, hell probably before . You cannot seriously think they are having any issues accessing everything that has his Digital Finger Print on it .

Simple it's very simple . They are not liking what they are finding end of story and we will never find out what this kid was really into .

They’re going to hold off as long as they can so what ever they find, or found doesn’t make more people vote for Trump before the election.

This is the same agency that said the laptop was fake, had multiple agents confirm it, and then later said it was real, so I don’t expect any real investigation is happening.

Withold their pay until they crack the password and reveal information. If they can do it find someone who can. And fire their asses for poor performance

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Nefarious times my good friend. 🤨

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Evidence pointing to IRAN is being concocted. Takes time, due to the linguistics involved.

FBI also says they have no idea how Crooks got the rifle up to the roof. They should ask the Secret Service.

Will the oddities ever cease? Makes the whole lone shooter narrative a bit crumbly. So then what they are saying is that anybody can get encrypted e-mails that our federal law enforcement cannot gain access to? Really? As if that would be allowed to any citizen. I smell a ton of BS!

I heard the first guy on scene used the shooters thumb, got in the phone and they were good to go. There was nothing on it but Furry Porn, a recipe for salsa and 2 pictures of a ladder. One Contact.....CornPop.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

That's not known or at least publicly not known. We don't know what they've found yet. So it's just speculation at this point.

I don't know what the NSA can do definitively. And they won't tell ya either. I don't think he had anything more exotic that can be found on either the web or darkweb or whatever he could buy. And had the kid been a better shot then Trump would be dead. I don't know why he wasn't using a hunting rifle.

I don't have an answer for that programming either. More speculation.