Obama is more white than Harris is black.

a reply to: Lumenari

Whose arguing (you used that word 3 times) , the use of a ? suggests im asking a question and i despise all politicians so label me a democrat or conservative and you would be wrong on both accounts

May i ask, are you suggesting that coulor of ones skin is defined by the culture you live?

originally posted by: Lumenari

If you want to argue about melanin, then you're a Democrat.

Are you suggestig OP is then a democrat?

a reply to: AwakeNotWoke

Kamala Harris is a descendant of an Irish slave owner in Jamaica
Irish Times

Presumptive Democratic nominee and US vice-president Kamala Harris has Irish roots but not in a way that she is likely to embrace.
Ms Harris is the daughter of Donald J Harris, who was born in Jamaica, and Shyamala Gopalan Harris from India.
Genealogical research carried out by Northern Irish historian Stephen McCracken reveals Ms Harris’s four-times-paternal-great-grandfather Hamilton Brown was born in Co Antrim in 1776, the year of the US Declaration of Independence.
Brown emigrated to Jamaica, then a British colony, and became an enthusiastic slave owner on the sugar plantations that were the mainstay of the island’s economy. He opposed the abolition of slavery across the British Empire in 1832 and went to Antrim to replace his slaves with workers from his native county.

Her father is Donald J Harris.
Search Brave.ocm

Based on the provided search results, Donald J. Harris, the father of Kamala Harris, is of Afro-Jamaican and Irish-Jamaican heritage. His paternal grandmother, Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown), was a descendant of Hamilton Brown, a plantation and slave owner, and founder of Brown’s Town, Jamaica. His maternal grandmother, Miss Iris (née Finegan), was a farmer and educator from Aenon Town and Inverness, Jamaica, with ancestry unknown to him.

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What is kamala harris ethnicity
Based on the provided information, Kamala Harris is a U.S. citizen born in Oakland, California, to an Indian mother, Shyamala Gopalan, and a Jamaican father, Donald Harris. Her mixed heritage is a combination of:

Indian: Through her mother’s side, Kamala Harris has Indian ancestry, specifically from Tamil Nadu, India.
Jamaican: Through her father’s side, Kamala Harris has Jamaican ancestry.

originally posted by: UpIsNowDown2
a reply to: Lumenari

Whose arguing (you used that word 3 times) , the use of a ? suggests im asking a question and i despise all politicians so label me a democrat or conservative and you would be wrong on both accounts

May i ask, are you suggesting that coulor of ones skin is defined by the culture you live?

originally posted by: Lumenari

If you want to argue about melanin, then you're a Democrat.

Are you suggestig OP is then a democrat?

Careful. All of my responses are being deleted showing that Kamala is indeed partially black.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: CriticalStinker


ooooo, and what a counter it is CS.

It’s just street cred math.

It’s probably confusing for Kamala as a DA.

I’m sure she’s perplexed by his complexion. At quick glance she’s thinking a harsh mixture of house arrest and community service. But when she factors in street cred, she starts looking at him like he got caught with a whole marijuana cigarette. We’re talking years in the slammer once we apply that math.

originally posted by: UpIsNowDown2

originally posted by: AwakeNotWoke

She is not black. She is half Indian and half Jamaican. How in hell does that qualify as black? They're is absolutely no african heritage in her genes nor in her culture.

what colour of your white or black choice would you say this perosn is?

and for bonus points where do you think he was born?

For bonus points … I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS!

If they are good at what the do, I'm happy for them.

They both appear to be athletes. While I do not care for sportsball and hold no person in special esteem because he or she is particularly adept at playing a game, I would assume that these men (I do not know who the y are or what they do) are respected in their field of endeavor because of their skill, not because of their parentage, ethnicity, or the color of their skin.

I feel this way about elected officials. Harris' ethnicity (alleged or otherwise) means nothing if she is incompetent. And she has proven herself so.

To promote her on the basis of her race (alleged or otherwise) is an insult competent people.

:

Kamal's mother:



Kamal's father:



As skin tone keeps lightening I guess we caucasians can pull an Elizabeth Warren now and claim all those special benefits reserved for POCs only.

People would do well to do their homework. Kamal's father, Donald Harris, is a Stanford Marxist economist, as was his grandmother. Kamal has a histry of favoring socialistic ideals; it's ingrained in her. Generational programming at work.

a reply to: nugget1

My gripe, at its core, is not her ethnicity (alleged or otherwise), not even the that she claimsto be black. In this derranged modern cultural context, I guess I can be anything I imagine myself to be and expect the world to agree with my delusion.

People will back the candidacy of this idiot not on the basis of merit, nor on the facts of a successful track record in leadership. She has neither!

Some of you will back her candidacy simply based on the fact she lays claim to a specific ethnicity.

If she should get into office, you will get what you deserve.

(See my avatar.)

At any rate, nobody has yet to counter the essential thesis of my OP.

Because you can't.

originally posted by: UpIsNowDown2
a reply to: Lumenari

Whose arguing (you used that word 3 times) , the use of a ? suggests im asking a question and i despise all politicians so label me a democrat or conservative and you would be wrong on both accounts

May i ask, are you suggesting that coulor of ones skin is defined by the culture you live?

originally posted by: Lumenari

If you want to argue about melanin, then you're a Democrat.

Are you suggestig OP is then a democrat?

I just thought the entire premise of the topic hilarious, as a Cherokee.

Who is more American by culture?

a reply to: Lumenari

You all are completely lost.

My OP has nothing to do with being "American."

I'm addressing the repulsive pandering to ethnicities and the utter stupidity of the voting morons who will consider a candidate's ethnicity or skin color above their actual qualifications.

My son-in-law is half spanish/Italian and half guatamalan with small amounts of different nationalities in his genome. He looks almost black but genetically is like two point two percent black...since his mother looks more like a native with maybe a little jamacian mixed in I do not think the black came from there. His father was dark, most of the black in him probably came generations ago from his Father...although tracing his ancestry back for many generations did not show anything, maybe over seven hundred years ago there was a black ancestor on his fathers side and maybe it combined with his mothers south American island ancestors way back to make him a little darker than both his mother and father were.

I would say he is much darker than Harris, so I would estimate Harris is probably less than two and a half percent black too. This is just a guess, Genes can be dominant or recessive, so I would guess she could be between two and maybe six percent black genetics. A lot of Jamaicans have some black genetics in them, but those were not American slaves, that is independent of blacks in America, probably way before we had slaves here in America...don't know why the spanish brought them there long ago and they wound up staying there.

My brother in law Sisters first husband and father of my nephew is Micronesian. He is dark. Islanders may share genetics with black people, but they are not considered Black at all. Why is Kamala saying she is black when she is not really black. I have genes for Inuit, and am one point seven percent inuit I found...but I am a Finn, not an inuit. Just because that little bit of male genetics from a long time ago...genetics that probably has not changed for generations because it is metabolic oriented, does not mean I am an eskimo or one of the inuit people, I would never claim to be. People who tout themselves as black to gain prestige or followers are not doing things appropriately. No matter who we are in this country, our citizens are Americans. We are all equal. We should work towards making everyone equal, not give special rights to minorities. We are all stuck in this together, being ruled by politicians that want us to believe in them and not the truth. Same goes for the sexes, we are all equal, we should learn to all have equal rights, hormones flowing through our veings should not have anything to do with it. I cannot stand that a person is going to consider themselves great for being the first black or woman as president, that should not be an issue at all in electing them. Their ability to do the job and to treat everyone as equals is what they should do. When a president is elected, they become the representative of all the people of the country, not just the people who voted for them. We did not elect them to create their own agenda. Once in they belong to all American citizens, not just the party that elected them. They should not be bias towards liberal or conservatives, and as americans we should respect that every person has the same rights, color, sex, poor or wealthy, the only thing that should be considered is honesty and integrity. Why have the American people got so divided? We should demand the government to treat us all the same. People need to work and earn a living and people must stop judging people on their wealth or social status..just honesty and integrity. Everyone needs to WORK together and slackers and crooks should not be praised. It does not matter if you work at McDs or as a congressman or congresswoman...All people who are working and trying to make a living should be treated as equals. Change society to try to get everyone to work...and not just show up at a job...be a symbiotic part of society.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: UpIsNowDown2
a reply to: Lumenari

Whose arguing (you used that word 3 times) , the use of a ? suggests im asking a question and i despise all politicians so label me a democrat or conservative and you would be wrong on both accounts

May i ask, are you suggesting that coulor of ones skin is defined by the culture you live?

originally posted by: Lumenari

If you want to argue about melanin, then you're a Democrat.

Are you suggestig OP is then a democrat?

I just thought the entire premise of the topic hilarious, as a Cherokee.

Who is more American by culture?

Isn’t the Cherokee Nation sovereign?

I could see the argument they’re more native. But more American would be tricky IMO.

American is United States of America. The native tribes are just that, tribes who view themselves as different, to the extent of embracing themselves as separate nations.

I don’t see them as less than Americans, nor do I see them as more than others as Americans. The answer, like most, is nuanced.

originally posted by: AwakeNotWoke
a reply to: Lumenari

You all are completely lost.

My OP has nothing to do with being "American."

I'm addressing the repulsive pandering to ethnicities and the utter stupidity of the voting morons who will consider a candidate's ethnicity or skin color above their actual qualifications.

I'm Cherokee.

I consider myself pretty American considering my skin color.

I was adding context to your OP and you don't understand it.

Rather ironic considering the conversation...

originally posted by: Euronymous2625
Jamaican people are black. Her dad is black.

/Thread

Wrong, Euronymous2625.



Now... /Thread

My point us irrefutable!

But y'all can keep on whining if you want.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: AwakeNotWoke
a reply to: Lumenari

You all are completely lost.

My OP has nothing to do with being "American."

I'm addressing the repulsive pandering to ethnicities and the utter stupidity of the voting morons who will consider a candidate's ethnicity or skin color above their actual qualifications.

I'm Cherokee.

I consider myself pretty American considering my skin color.

I was adding context to your OP and you don't understand it.

Rather ironic considering the conversation...

Understood. But you were not necessarily included in that "You all." I meant to address the people who are sucked in by the pandering.

Apparently it's questionable whether or not Kamala is even eligible to become President

Only Natural Born Citizens Eligible for President

Kamala Harris's father was a Jamaican national, her mother was from India, and neither was a naturalized U.S. citizen at the time of Harris' birth in 1964.


I have no doubt that this significant challenge to Harris' constitutional eligibility ... will be dismissed out of hand as so much antiquated constitutional tripe


Some reacted strongly to this essay, seeing it as racist

Kamala Harris Doesn’t Qualify for Presidency – She’ll Have To Be Replaced

Some Questions for Kamala Harris About Eligibility

Only Natural Born Citizens Eligible for President


Kamala Harris's father was a Jamaican national, her mother was from India, and neither was a naturalized U.S. citizen at the time of Harris' birth in 1964.

That makes her not a "natural born citizen"—and therefore ineligible for the office of the president

originally posted by: Lumenari
Who wants to tell him that Kamala's ancestor there was one of the largest slave owners in Jamaica.

Awkward, isn't it....

Not really. You're assuming consent, informed or otherwise. Given the history, my assumption would be the opposite.

a reply to: AwakeNotWoke

Depending on the type of application, I'm either white or latino/ Hispanic

Funny that some whites see me as latino/ Hispanic, but most central or south American immigrants see me as white boi.

Frankly it's all overrated. Skin color isn't an identity, and people need to move past that sheet

originally posted by: EatZeeBugs
Apparently it's questionable whether or not Kamala is even eligible to become President

Only Natural Born Citizens Eligible for President

Kamala Harris's father was a Jamaican national, her mother was from India, and neither was a naturalized U.S. citizen at the time of Harris' birth in 1964.


I have no doubt that this significant challenge to Harris' constitutional eligibility ... will be dismissed out of hand as so much antiquated constitutional tripe


Some reacted strongly to this essay, seeing it as racist

Kamala Harris Doesn’t Qualify for Presidency – She’ll Have To Be Replaced

Some Questions for Kamala Harris About Eligibility

Only Natural Born Citizens Eligible for President


Kamala Harris's father was a Jamaican national, her mother was from India, and neither was a naturalized U.S. citizen at the time of Harris' birth in 1964.

That makes her not a "natural born citizen"—and therefore ineligible for the office of the president

Great. Another birther movement. She was born in California. That makes her a natural born US citizen.