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What does a "threat to democracy" actually look like?

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posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 05:47 AM
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It's the new talking point, and has been used in every argument made as of late. Trump is an existential threat to Democracy! It's why we need to vote for the potato. It's the most important election of all time. If the dems don't win, the world will end.

OK, maybe that's true. But should I just take the left's word for all that? Should I just gobble up that fear and not put any thought into it, like most on the left? I'd like to at the very least, know what horrible things are going to happen, so I can prepare. Which brings me to the question.

What threats are the most frightening with regards to a second Trump term? I think I know, and if I was a career politician, it would scare me too. But not being a leftie, and not consuming only MSNBC all day every day, I don't really know what the true threat is. So here is your chance. Here is the perfect spot to tell everyone what Trump will do this time that is a threat to our very democracy? (And yes, I know it's a Constitutional Republic)



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 05:50 AM
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Democracy to them is their way or the highway !



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 05:55 AM
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What does a "threat to democracy" actually look like?

The panel on The View.



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 06:15 AM
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posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 06:17 AM
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Ending the Federal Reserve, rolling back income tax, no new wars, rolling back foreign aid, balancing the budget, saving children from sexual perversity, securing our border, removing the ability of foreign agents to vote in our elections etc.. etc..

you know, the stuff that keeps a society stable and safe.


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posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: network dude

A group of un-elected power hungry and corrupt degenerates and communists making decisions behind the facade of a dementia patient.



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Orange mean Tweety stuff.



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: network dude

I mean it's just a talking point with little to no substance, democratic means you get to vote. The process used to elect US politicians is democratic, the way the teritorry is organized is a constitutional republic. Yes words have meaning beyond the talking points you repeat.

It's like some of you are just as ignorant about democracy and it's meaning as the lefties that repeat their talking point.

Democratic process can always be a danger to democracy because nothing stops the masses to elect a dictator. After all it was a left leaning germany that elected Hitler fair and square.

I can see how some are worried that Trump could have the potential to lead his lemmings towards a dictatorship. But I honestly think that's just the lefts projection of their own blind obedience. Though I wouldn't be surprised if that was in the play book all along. In the end it will be up to the right to proof them wrong...



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: network dude

It looks exactly like what democrats are doing. They're the biggest threat to their own bs democracy.

I for one, would love to see their bs democracy defunded, dismantled and desist.


Why America’s Founders Didn’t Want a Democracy

In his book "Liberty in Peril," Randall Holcombe challenges the presumption that liberty and democracy are complementary.

Holcombe begins by laying out the case that “the Founders had no intention of creating a democracy, in the sense of a government that would be guided by popular opinion,”

Government is not your mamma, it's not here to take care of us




We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,


When have dems ever asked us or our consent?

I do not consent to tyrants.
I do not support the democratic bs.

I swore an Oath to support and defend the Constitution.
Which states;

Article IV Section 4 | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov ...
constitution.congress.gov...
Section 4 Republican Form of Government. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;


We the People are not, being protected from invasion. In fact democrats are doing exactly the opposite of what the Articles demand they do. Only We the People can hold them accountable.

It's past due, and time is running out.

Constitutional Republic, or not.
The choice is ours, but we have to do our part.



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 06:59 AM
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a reply to: Terpene

so it's my fault for not knowing what they mean. Got it. That clears it up and I think this thread can be ended now. You sure saved the day.



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: Terpene

You are as ignorant as they come, if that's your definition of democrat.





For those who refuse to see, I leave this for you;

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: ADVISOR

even if we all took up arms and marched to DC, what then? We have already learned that to march to the Capitol is Insurrection and you can be jailed for life, so who's going to go against that? Who's going to risk it all? It would take for everyone to be on the same page, and everyone to agree there is a problem so great, that the threat of violence was the only way forward. I don't see that solidifying at all.

Many of us want to see it come to fruition peacefully. Many of us also understand that's not likely, but we still hope. A few of us would join a movement to fix things, but wouldn't do so without a clear path, and a clear leader. Until people have to do without, they won't be coming to that way of thinking. I think we have given them too much power, and we won't be getting it back.
edit on 13-7-2024 by network dude because: Beto, what a stupid name



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 07:19 AM
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a reply to: network dude

I could point to many points in American history where people either successfully or unsuccessfully rolled those dice. Just to ping pong it: Whiskey rebellion, battle of Athens, Jan 6 (if people consider that a real rebellion), BLM (Bureau of Land Management) stand, BLM (Black lives matter) riots, Ruby Ridge, Weathermen, the civil war, these go on forever over the course of such a short history.

America puts in place to change things peacefully. They are always coerced by bureaucracy and govt. Sometimes Americans decide to take things in their own hands. The less people have power in government, the more they become restless, and it makes the national landscape pretty frightening.

We're not where we were in the 60s, but people are not happy, and its a new landscape politically. These are uncertain times.



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 07:21 AM
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There doesn't have to be a march on DC.

We the People, can remove the Corrupt Career Parasite Politicians, by not voting for them ever again.

This I've pointed out numerous times, in many of the threads I've bumped recently, as a reminder if people read.

There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order.
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There are four great protections for our liberties: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. If you lose the last, the first three won’t mean a thing.

In the thread True Patriot Reading List, Give Me Liberty, it's all explained as, the best defense against government tyranny, is an educated people.

Meaning they need to know, civics, which isn't taught...
Why?

Civics is the study of the rights and obligations of citizens in society. In America it also teaches us that We the People, are the truth authority and government only has it's powers if we consent.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

I do not know, what that means to every one else, but to me, it means I do not consent, to anyone else, ever. Only God.

God given rights, can not be taken away, especially by a government that didn't create them. It's supposed to guard.

Our federal government is and has been rogue, time to reel it in, or euthanize it.

I do not want a domestic conflict, I'm willing to use the first three boxes, before We are forced to use the last.

United We Stand, is being divided really an option...?


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posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Nah just for steping down to their level of ignorance and dance their tango...






posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 08:27 AM
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What's destroying democracy?

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge."
Hosea 4.6

That's what...



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 08:39 AM
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To define a threat to democracy we must first define democracy. To most people, democracy is the ability to vote for your leaders in office. To decide who is in your best interest to govern you.

To a Democrat it is the Democratic party.

To a Democrat, a threat to democracy is any threat to the Democratic party.

It is that simple. Some people believe words have entirely different meanings based on who says them. To those people, democracy is already lost.



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: Terpene

Nah just for steping down to their level of ignorance and dance their tango...



The vast majority of Liberals barely have a surface level of understanding of all they support. If they went even a little deeper, they most likely would not support 80% of the crap that they do. To cover up this minimal understanding or lack of awareness of what goes on around them they self-proclaim higher intelligence and that the other side is ignorant.

Case in point... The left wasn't aware of Biden's brain 10 years ago? lol geez

The left forgot they removed him as a presidential candidate decades ago for massive lying?

The Left forgot he is a racist SOB that led, LED... efforts to keep segregation alive? "I will not have my kids go to school in those jungles" Authored the 3 strikes you are out bill putting millions in jail not needed and with inappropriate sentences that were written in stone tying the hands of the judges?

The left should have kicked old Biden to the curb back in the 90s... but hey they are the smart ones...




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posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 09:17 AM
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Enlighten me... by which process is your government elected? Is it called a republic process? I'll give you a hint...
If you get to vote it is a democratic process... If that triggers your republican talking points is not changing anything.

I have a bonus question for you... Are there any government that are a democracy? You'd be surprised to see that a republic can have democratic processes to elect their leaders, in the course of your research you'll also realize that democracy isn't really a form of government but rather the process by which the governments citizens can get involved...

But hey keep looking like you never actually did any research on the issue but blindly repeat the party talking points...



posted on Jul, 13 2024 @ 09:18 AM
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I hear from the Democrats that one of the biggest dictator actions Donald Trump will take if he wins is that he will take away my porn?

Is that ture?
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