Voting machine contract under scrutiny following discrepancies in Puerto Rico’s primaries

Voting machine contract under scrutiny following discrepancies in Puerto Rico’s primaries

You would think after 2020 they would have all the bugs fixed or is this being floated for other reasons

apnews.com...

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — Puerto Rico’s elections commission said Tuesday that it’s reviewing its contract with a U.S. electronic voting company after hundreds of discrepancies were discovered following the island’s heated primaries.

The problem stemmed from a software issue that caused machines supplied by Dominion Voting Systems to incorrectly calculate vote totals, said Jessika Padilla Rivera, the commission’s interim president.

While no one is contesting the results from the June 2 primary that correctly identify the winners, machine-reported vote counts were lower than the paper ones in some cases, and some machines reversed certain totals or reported zero votes for some candidates.

“The concern is that we obviously have elections in November, and we must provide the (island) not only with the assurance that the machine produces a correct result, but also that the result it produces is the same one that is reported,” Padilla said.

Both parties reported hundreds of ballots showing inaccurate results, with the PNP reporting over 700 errors and the PPD pointing to some 350 discrepancies. These inaccuracies affected ballots for positions including governor, mayor and resident commissioner.

a reply to: putnam6

them Dominion som a bitches just don't quit do they/

a reply to: putnam6

Lemme guess. . . they held a local election in Puerto Rico and Biden won.

Didn't Trump or Fox have to pay Dominion for slander about saying their machines were faulty. Sound like someone is owed money back.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: putnam6

Lemme guess. . . they held a local election in Puerto Rico and Biden won.

Yep - in a number of cities they had to stop counting at the same time and do it in secret in the middle of the night.
In the morning, Biden was declared the winner by a nose.

a reply to: putnam6

Every rural county should withhold their rallies until the metros have completed theirs.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: putnam6

Every rural county should withhold their rallies until the metros have completed theirs.

We need a complete overhaul of how we do our federal elections, so don't get me started. Federal elections should be held on different days, I'd be fine with it being a holiday, but I'm concerned with it being mostly down by volunteers. So many aspects and so many different rules and regulations by state it's messed up

But yes I don't like we will finish counting when we know how far we are down aspect

Puerto Rico is a great place to test variable cheating methods. 😃

I guess I am a luddite when it comes to these electronic voting machines. Paper ballots that can be recounted manually is the only way to go.

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
I guess I am a luddite when it comes to these electronic voting machines. Paper ballots that can be recounted manually is the only way to go.

I agree, but who does the counting? It will never happen but I'd consider the military with some GP

Electronic voting was brought to us by "dangling chad" AND some politicians getting rich on the conversion to electronic

Just like Trumps votes, page disappears …p00f!

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
I guess I am a luddite when it comes to these electronic voting machines. Paper ballots that can be recounted manually is the only way to go.

I concur, the kiss method is transparent and nigh idiot proof.

originally posted by: GlitchMechanic
Didn't Trump or Fox have to pay Dominion for slander about saying their machines were faulty. Sound like someone is owed money back.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

This isn't about the machines so much, as it is about the software.

Election companies like Dominion and ES&S sell proprietary software that runs on off the shelf machinery.

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
I guess I am a luddite when it comes to these electronic voting machines. Paper ballots that can be recounted manually is the only way to go.

My State scans paper ballots, checks the vote with the voter, then logs that vote. The machines produce a paper tape tally, and can produce a paper print up total at the end of the night. My State preserves the paper ballots, which are needed to help verify an election in the case of a recount or audit.

On one hand, the ballot images and related security files should provide an added layer of transparency, but they can't be used when they are destroyed just months after an election. Another issue arises when those electronic records are discovered to have been corrupted in some way, but that discovery is ignored by officials and brushed off by the media.

I'm realizing now that, because the software checks the vote with the voter, and allows for changes, someone could vote for candidate A on paper, then tell the software that they meant to vote for candidate B. This would throw the scanned count off from what a paper ballot hand recount would produce. As long as the electronic records are intact, we can assume that this discrepancy happened as I just described. In my opinion, when this error rate is above the margin of victory, there's justification for an audit, and the same can be said for when the adjudication rate is above the margin of victory. Where as, the first instance requires a hand recount to determine, properly maintained adjudication records should be able to accurately report the adjudication rate at the end of an election.

The adjudication process should also be of concern. Anytime someone is changing someone else's vote, we should be asking.
Is it legal?
Are there election workers and monitors from both parties involved in the process?
Is this process taking place behind closed doors?
Is AI involved in the process?
Are private companies part of the process?
Are records of the original ballot images being preserved along with the changes?
Is software being used to change ballot images themselves, without saving the original images?
Are all these electric election records being preserved for 22 months and are they accessable for lawsuits and audits?