Gobekli Tepe Will Probably Never Be Fully Revealed by the WEF

a reply to: Kurokage

Well, if you watched the video, you could see it is literally covered up with concrete and roads now, and artificial modern structures, in addition to being figuratively covered up as to the meaning of the vulture stone, and carvings on other megaliths.

Did you realize the vulture stone may be associated with a star map that dates the site to just after the last micronova?

potential starmap link

I think you guys are missing the point entirely.

Gobekli Tepe has the very real possibility of turning Christianity on its head, and in particular the Catholic Church. So, the connection to the WEF is from lobbying of the Catholic and other churches to squash this before it is found that Gobekli Tepe trumps the Holy Bible (and the unimaginable sums of money associated with organized Christian religions). Just imagine how much influence, wealth and power organized Christian religions, and to a lesser extent Jewish faiths as well, stand to lose if someone discovers civilized society existed fully 4,000 years before the oldest known civilization (Mesopotamia) and 8,000 years before Jesus was born. All the history of antiquity would be thrown into complete turmoil.

Remember, Abraham, Cain and Abel were born in Mesopotamian times (i.e. 'the beginning'), but now all of a sudden civilized society existed 4,000 years prior to this point; how is that going to be made to fit?

a reply to: Fowlerstoad


Graham Hancock is like the author Dan Brown, he diverts you to the area you should have noticed on your own then drowns you in disinformation.


Edit to add: "Messier 57"?

a reply to: Fowlerstoad

ell, if you watched the video, you could see it is literally covered up with concrete and roads now, and artificial modern structures,

You mean the roofs created to protect the sites left open for the public to see?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

There's lots of previous 'religions' FCD before the controlling big 3 of Christianity, Islam and Judeaism and most of those have stories stolen from previous religious, the flood myth being a biggie. I don't see any group trying to put a lid on it.

The WEF connection comes from Turkey and Doğus Group being at the assembly and pawning it's tourism, I think Turkey wants to be a bigger world player and push the birth of civilization for investment.

www.nationalgeographic.com...

The world’s oldest monuments may soon get an image makeover. A new project will promote and preserve Göbekli Tepe, home to the most ancient temple structures ever discovered.

Turkey hopes to eventually boost tourism at the site, which is in a region where tourism has declined because of the nearby Syrian conflict and refugee crisis.

At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Turkey’s Doğuş Group will announce Wednesday that they plan to spend $15 million over the next 20 years on the project, in partnership with the National Geographic Society. “Göbekli Tepe is our zero point in time,” Doğuş Group chairman Ferit F. Şahenk said in a press release.

The Dogus Group at WEF...
www.weforum.org...

a reply to: Kurokage

The roofs are part of the problem, but the bigger problem is the rest of the infrastucture to support the 'tourist attraction', and how now further investigation has literally stopped. You can no longer explore the other parts of the site that are not 'protected', and cannot see any more than they will let you see.

They shut it down, just when it seemed we could have learned a little more about our unwritten history.

Maybe F Clay disc above has a point....

They don't really want us to see the rest of the site, for whatever reason, only the minimal amount they have so-called 'protected'. Are they protecting the site, or are they protecting themselves?

a reply to: Kurokage

Could be, those were just my examples. This site has the real potential to disrupt one or many organized religions because nearly every one of them attempts to explain away civilization which existed before their prophet arrived, and this is underpinning foundation of their doctrine. If you suddenly shift this time-line substantially it creates all sorts of problems. This was really my larger point.

If tourism turns out to be the true issue here, then that might be okay provided they don't destroy the historical and archeological value of the site in the process. It is a potentially earth shattering find. I've always been amazed that more attention hasn't been paid to this site. In fact, a couple of years ago I posted a similar OP myself wherein I wondered why so few have heard about it...and wondering if it was intentionally being kept off the public 'radar' for some reason. The historical significance of this site may even eclipse that of the Great Pyramids of Giza.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Could be, those were just my examples. This site has the real potential to disrupt one or many organized religions because nearly every one of them attempts to explain away civilization which existed before their prophet arrived, and this is underpinning foundation of their doctrine. If you suddenly shift this time-line substantially it creates all sorts of problems. This was really my larger point.

The last hundred and fifty years or so in particular have seen many shifts in the time-line. The major religions have survived pretty much unscathed and have long since accepted that the chronologies that existed previously were in some way flawed. We're a highly adaptive species. All sorts of problems are easily surmountable given the right motivation.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
If tourism turns out to be the true issue here, then that might be okay provided they don't destroy the historical and archeological value of the site in the process. It is a potentially earth shattering find. I've always been amazed that more attention hasn't been paid to this site. In fact, a couple of years ago I posted a similar OP myself wherein I wondered why so few have heard about it...and wondering if it was intentionally being kept off the public 'radar' for some reason. The historical significance of this site may even eclipse that of the Great Pyramids of Giza.

You must mean few people in your circle or your neck of the woods have heard about it? There have been a number of threads over the years on it. And, if you subscribe to such things, thousands of papers, articles, sections in books about it. Not enough documentaries, I would say though, but it is hard to do a full book or documentary until the underlying narrative of the whole complex has been developed and we're still years from that I would say. There have been a lot of theories, just as there have been with Stonehenge, but not enough evidence to fully support those theories - yet.

The pyramids are essentially tombs, fancy gravestones which exist within a continuum of burial rites going back 55,000 years or so, we have #-loads of tombs all over the world, we understand a great deal about death and death rites and how the pyramids fit into that. Gobekli Tepe is different, it is more akin to Stonehenge, a place where the living communed, travelling sometimes great distances to be together and to break bread (figuratively speaking).

Excavations at Catal Houyuk and more recently, and pertinently, at Karahan Tepe help us to put together some of the pieces of the narrative, as do the on-going genetic studies. It's going to take time because archaeologists are a very conservative bunch and the discipline does not change it's mind until the weight of evidence compels it to do so.

a reply to: Dalamax

The ant people?

Turkey has quite a few impressive "underground cities" and it is possible the past was fabled in lore. It's not unreasonable to apply the "Chinese whispers" idea to oral tradition, language changes so surely the stories can too.

Idk... I'm just not in a hurry to rule out human achievements, the Americas achieved what Eurasian and African people did and I find it a disservice to ourselves to say that's down to superhumans and aliens. We're perfectly capable of advancing our understanding on our own, the whole theory to practice thing is very canny to a human mind.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

I'd be willing to bet you I could go about anywhere in the World and pick 10 people, 9 of which have heard of Stonehenge, or the Pyramids of Giza. I'd put money, good money, on going to the same places and picking out the same 10 people and 9 of them will have NEVER heard of Gobekli Tepe. I'd even go as far as 95 out of 100 people.

Otherwise, fair enough. I'll go back to my rock-people under the granite boulder over there.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

I'd be willing to bet you I could go about anywhere in the World and pick 10 people, 9 of which have heard of Stonehenge, or the Pyramids of Giza. I'd put money, good money, on going to the same places and picking out the same 10 people and 9 of them will have NEVER heard of Gobekli Tepe. I'd even go as far as 95 out of 100 people.

Otherwise, fair enough. I'll go back to my rock-people under the granite boulder over there.

I get you, and I am not disputing what you are saying but it is about what people are interested in. Most people are not interested in an incomplete story, so the discussion, very actively, is going on, but you have to look for it and want to keep up with it. The pyramids are pretty up there and in your face, and incredibly well studied - we've been at it since the 18th century, same with Stonehenge, the less showy stuff including at Stonehenge and Giza but also including Gobekli Tepe, and many other sites in Turkey, is a bit less, I don't know, blingy? But, what I have learnt, is you can't expect other people to be excited about the same things you are excited about. To assume that lack of interest is due to a lack of effort to publicise or create interest is more what I was questioning. Interest is vital to archaeological studies, without interest there is no funding. So while much effort has been put into publicising the work at these sites, you can't make people drink if they're not thirsty enough. Know what I mean?

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Fair enough.

a reply to: Fowlerstoad

Before Hawass took control of the Great Pyramid info filtering Aleister Crowley who had been a gifted child prodigy claimed that he channeled a being he named Aiwass during his honeymoon in Cairo on April 8, 9, and 10 in 1904. Long history there...

Public probably couldn't handle the truth about Göbekli Tepe either.
Skimming the Andrew Collins article it appears they have already made some assumptions that would narrow the theories.

In their opinion, the ball-like object above the wing of the stone's central vulture relief marks the position of the sun at this time.

You might ask why couldn't the ball like object be the moon since it supposedly includes the night scene carving of the constellation Scorpio?

Hancock on the other hand, again following Burley's lead, argues that the relief of the ball-like object is the sun in Sagittarius at the time of the winter solstice between the years 1960 and 2040.

So Hancock puts this back in sun theory with his "80".

If anyone knew about a secret hidden killer comet it would be someone like Charles Messier who obsessively hunted those kinds of things after he was inspired by the great 1743 comet.

Swimming around in the Ragu sauce with Hancock you just need to be blessed with the same angel number 593

originally posted by: Fowlerstoad
a reply to: Kurokage

The roofs are part of the problem, but the bigger problem is the rest of the infrastucture to support the 'tourist attraction', and how now further investigation has literally stopped. You can no longer explore the other parts of the site that are not 'protected', and cannot see any more than they will let you see.

They shut it down, just when it seemed we could have learned a little more about our unwritten history.

Maybe F Clay disc above has a point....

They don't really want us to see the rest of the site, for whatever reason, only the minimal amount they have so-called 'protected'. Are they protecting the site, or are they protecting themselves?

The roofs at the site are there to protect the exsposed parts of the site from wind and rain, nothing more. Stonehenge is cordoned off for 99.9% of the year and you're asked not to touch the stones and parts opf the Giza site are also restricted, allowing the general public to trounce over an historical site is a bad idea because of damage, tourists tend to be morons at times.
You say "only the minimal amount they have so-called 'protected'" but this why they want investment for the site. Archeological Digs aren't cheap and then finding a way to allow the public to view it with destroying the site isn't easy.

a reply to: Skinnerbot

Sorry, but after trying to read your post I turned off at Aleister Crowley, The guy was fruit cake and pervert.

a reply to: Fowlerstoad

Also, I will add to this thread that Gobekli Tepe is not the only site from around the time of or before the last solar micronova 12,00 years ago for which excavation has been stymied.

Gunung Padang is maybe from 2 cycles ago at 27,000 years old, with a chamber inside identified on ground penetrating radar, and a similar assortment of globalists are retarding investigation at that site as well:


Gunung Padang investigation also neglected

Not sure about WEF controlling Gobekli Tepe but I very much doubt we are being told everything about the site.

So that the leads the obvious question; Why?
Quite a few in this thread have been trying to answer that and some reasonable explanations have been put forward.

Me?
If the current 'accepted' timeline is disproven then I certainly think organised religion, particularly the Abrahamic faiths, could lose some face....but I'm sure they'd be able to come up with some viable excuse between them - hell, I can think of two or three myself.

Academia has a huge amount to lose as do all those who have vested interests in it.
They have put so much effort, energy and more importantly money into pushing the current timelines and discrediting anyone who disagree with it that they would lose so much credibility.....and along with it the often lucrative funding.

Once we lose faith and trust and in our leading higher education institutions what's next?

I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as many others here on this but I do enjoy keeping up with these threads and the latest findings. I genuinely feel these is more to this story than is being let on.

Keep up the good work guys.....just wish Byrd and one or two others were here to give their opinions on it.

originally posted by: Freeborn

Keep up the good work guys.....just wish Byrd and one or two others were here to give their opinions on it.

Byrd's last visit was July, 10th. I hope she's not locked out because of the login/password failure.

In any case, Byrd is active on DI and chimed in on this very topic.

Here's the link... denyignorance.com...

a reply to: Encia22

Cheers mate.

I'll definitely have a look a bit later on.

originally posted by: Freeborn
Not sure about WEF controlling Gobekli Tepe but I very much doubt we are being told everything about the site.

What is it that you want to be "told"?

I recommend:

www.academia.edu...

For the basic access it is completely free of charge because academics, from all over the world, upload their articles, papers and dissertations on there for free and without requiring you to be affiliated with an academic organisation to gain access.

originally posted by: Freeborn
So that the leads the obvious question; Why?

Absolutely no reason whatsoever they just haven't "told" you it seems.

Take a look, and you too can know what "they" know.