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Four decades ago Yuri Bezmenov chillingly predicted America today

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posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ADVISOR

People keep using the word communist, but I’m wondering if they know what the term means.

What we have is a wild blend of capitalism and the government bailing them out. And that’s been done by both sides.

I’m eager to hear someone explain to me how our system and current environment is anything closely resembling communism.

Yes, “people” do know what it means. What we have is a “mixed economy” in the US, that is, we have elements of Capitalism mixed with elements of socialism.
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The US has a mixed economy. A mixed economy has components of both capitalism and socialism. Because there is less government regulation than a command economy would have, the US is more capitalist. However, there are components of socialism in the US economy because of the government regulation on minimum wage, businesses, tariffs, and government-funded healthcare.


Both Lenin and Marx stated that communism is the end goal of socialism.
But, we are talking about the economic aspect here. Full-on communism is what the old Soviet Union was, a centrally planned and controlled economy with lots of gulags to imprison those whom the “supreme state” viewed as enemies.
The late Professor Antony Sutton explained how the globalists use Hegelian dialectic to achieve their One World Totalitarian goals. He said that the CFR used “managed conflict.” archive.org...
Let’s add something else to the mix … Cloward and Piven and Saul Alinsky, which the leftists in America have used to change the landscape.
The Agenda 21/2030 goals of “sustainable development” are part of the overall strategy. Then you have Antifa and other leftist groups which have ravaged the country, burned and pillaged entire cities to help achieve the goal of communism…. Total takeover and control, and now look what has happened to the American Judicial system. The leftists have made a mockery of it and sent American patriots to the gulags with torture.
In this article, Wayne Root, a college graduate who went to school with Obama explains….. www.thegatewaypundit.com...
I ask you, is this your vision of how things should be in America? Perhaps it’s time to look at facts.
I have found, it is usually proponents of socialism/communism who tell us we don’t know what communism is. I would like to know if you have read Solzhenitsyn’s book, “The Gulag Archipelago”, or any history of the Soviet Union? You will find the truth if you really want to.
Plus, I happen to have posted about Besmenov many times on ats.
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posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: ADVISOR

People keep using the word communist, but I’m wondering if they know what the term means.

What we have is a wild blend of capitalism and the government bailing them out. And that’s been done by both sides.

I’m eager to hear someone explain to me how our system and current environment is anything closely resembling communism.

What you are failing to take into account is the PROCESS by which communism takes root. The way if the Bolsheviks was outright revolutionary means … a violent revolution. However, Antony Sutton explains that even the Bolsheviks had financial support of western capitalists. He explains in his book, “Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution.” ia800205.us.archive.org...
Stalinist type revolutionary means was a very brutal regime which threw people into gulags. Today, we see this happening where the political elites are throwing their enemies into prison using their flunkies embedded in the judicial system. Just look at the Jan 6 fallout, look at Steven Bannon, look at the kangaroo court of Judge merchan, look at Alvin Bragg and Fanni Willis, judge Engoran. These are all leftist radicals operating in the judicial system and corrupting it with unconstitutional activities.



posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: bigginpc
It may not be communism, but it will be globalists totalitarianism. Which is close enough for me.


The late author Rosa Koire used in her book, “Behind the Green Mask,” a term to describe the newer version of communism…. “Communitarianism”. And she was a liberal Democrat by the way.
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posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 10:06 AM
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If you read this hitpiece from the Washington Post, you will realize not only who one of our greatest enemies is (the media) but also see why I allege we are turning into an oligarchy.
www.washingtonpost.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">The Washington Post

Opinion The best argument to lock up Trump: Merchan must protect the judiciary
Trump has relentlessly smeared witnesses, jurors and the judge. Incarceration is the only just punishment.
By Jennifer Rubin


The Washington Post is owned by none other than Jeff Bezos
Do I even have to mention the World Economic Forum here? Oligarchs!
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posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: ADVISOR

If you read this hitpiece from the Washington Post, you will realize not only who one of our greatest enemies is (the media) but also see why I allege we are turning into an oligarchy.
www.washingtonpost.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">The Washington Post

Opinion The best argument to lock up Trump: Merchan must protect the judiciary
Trump has relentlessly smeared witnesses, jurors and the judge. Incarceration is the only just punishment.
By Jennifer Rubin


The Washington Post is owned by none other than Jeff Bezos
Do I even have to mention the World Economic Forum here? Oligarchs!

Agreed Charles. The power elites of the world use any means necessary and available to achieve world control and domination with themselves as the robber barons with all the money and the monied interests. What difference what we name it? There are many ways they have used, whether oligarchy, socialism for redistribution of the wealth to those whom they wish to reward and from those they wish to punish steal the fruits of their labor “ for the common good” or anything they happen to want, capitalism for generating funds and supply, Keynesianism for control of the economy by the bankers and federal reserve and for keeping money flow rather than depression or recession….. and so on
They use the UN to implement controls over all nations of the world through international treaties and consensus for their plans, projects implemented for the purpose of control and depopulation (sustainable development, green energy(see Rosa Koire’s “Behind the Green Mask”) and varied ways to run the communities of the world aka Smart Cities , 15 minute cities etc guided by so-called “sustainable development”, plans to stop the people from eating meat and thus having the protein needed for strength, then there’s the WEF trying to make us eat bugs…. Among other things. Rosa Koire also mentions “public-private partnerships” and NGOs to do things for control using the private apparatus of NGOs combined with the government.
Then there is covert surveillance, such as data mining from media apps and platforms, and the latest Windows 11 program called “Recall”, embedded in the OS, which takes “ snapshots” reportedly every 3 seconds of everything we are doing on our pcs… I mean everything!!!!
I read an article once while at a doctors office, which suggested that Bill Gates was the “anti-Christ.”
Anything which is against the Christ principle of life can be considered anti-Christ …. So make your own assessment there…. remember he is involved heavily with vaccines and depopulation.
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posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 12:49 PM
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It's neo-communism disguised as climate change, trans movement, the nanny-state, DEI, etc.



posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
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It's neo-communism disguised as climate change, trans movement, the nanny-state, DEI, etc.


Yes! Besmenov explained this as the activities of “sleepers” aka protest movements for various “right”, designed to create chaos and destabilize society and central norms, also considered as “cultural Marxism.”



posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 01:07 PM
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Thanks, I'll check it out.a reply to: charlest2




posted on Jun, 7 2024 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

I like using the word “Collectivism” rather than “Communism”, it’s less constraining.

What I see also in many western countries is a form of Capitalism in government but the social climate is definitely Collectivist.

It appears to be a useful tool to control the masses without constraining those in power and their ability to profit from Capitalism.


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posted on Jun, 8 2024 @ 01:16 AM
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