Infowars fighting attempted shutdown

a reply to: UKTruth

What he actually said and did didn't really garner much outrage at all at the time - some, but nowhere near the outrage that followed the law suits years later. I think people bandwagoned a lot and were told to be outraged, so they were.

Like the show trial Trump is currently starring in. Some people loved all those juicy details Stormy got into, lot of emotional engagement. As for the facts of the crime?

With Alex a strong supporter of Trump, found himself facing the same wraith. Steve Bannon is another in the media set to face the same Judge Juan Merchan soon. Also another big Trump supporter.

To call paying a NDA is political interference while locking up the opposition in lawfare and silencing his support base is a new level of hypocrisy that I don't have a word for. Whatever it is, it ain't justice.

a reply to: UKTruth

It seems to me that the outrage only continues to grow UKTruth.

Mainly down to the fact that Jones continued to parrot and repeat the same to similar rhetoric on his show and at other interviews and public appearances.

The fact is the only reason he was silenced was because of the lawsuit.

And It's what Alex Jones used dead kids for that calls into question his credibility by my guess.

As to his motivations for doing so well those seem genuinely clear enough, and none of them good.

a reply to: andy06shake

The man helped destroy lives by my guess

How many lives did 'safe and effective' destroy? He also helped save a lot of lives as well promoting informed consent with and experimental therapy.

a reply to: kwaka

How many lives did 'safe and effective' destroy?

Im not sure but is smells a bit like the goalposts moving.

Meaning i dont really see what his stance where COVID was concerned has to do with the horrible claims he made regarding Sandy Hook.

What he said and did regarding the incident in question is rather well documented and recorded, and none of it sits right in the tummy.

He also helped save a lot of lives as well promoting informed consent with and experimental therapy.

Which "experimental therapy"?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: kwaka

I mean i liked the fellow when he broke all the Bohemian Club info and creation of care ceremony stuff.

But after the crap he choose to punt regarding Sandy Hook i really went off the fellow in question.

And then there was the turn the fecking frogs gay nonsense.

Or all that daft fake anger he chooses to project whilst attempting to promote and sell some rather spurious products.

Good riddance to bad rubbish really.

I always ask: "What would you allow in your own home".

A lot of people here spout "Free this and that" -- but honestly, what would you allow in your own home?

Say you're married and have 3 kids of various ages.

Would you allow your teenager to spout off inappropriate stuff in front of your toddler?

Do you openly spout off unfounded conspiracies as being fact with your children present?

a reply to: andy06shake

Im not sure but is smells a bit like the goalposts moving.

It is about the role of the media in a free and open democracy. Some times people get things wrong, we all make mistakes. That is why lots of different views is important to keep each other in check.

Do you really think America will be better off with a one party system like China. Are you good with the level of government surveillance and restrictions on speech they have there?

Which "experimental therapy"?

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a reply to: Annee

Say you're married and have 3 kids of various ages.

Just two kids.

Would you allow your teenager to spout off inappropriate stuff in front of your toddler?

Suppose it depends on what we are calling "inappropriate stuff".

I mean that has changed over the past few decades and what is inappropriate to me may not necessarily be inappropriate to the current generation.

I personally would not allow my 17-year-old daughter to spout off inappropriate stuff at all, never mind anywhere near a toddler, the fact is she's been brought up to know better than to do that.

Do you openly spout off unfounded conspiracies as being fact with your children present?

Certainly not as that would tend to scare the life out of them considering the current geopolitical climate and all that jazz.

I have been known to wind up my 17-year-old a couple of times where certain conspiracies are concerned, generally stuff like little grey aliens or hollow/flat earth palaver, but that's just the kind of relationship we have.

originally posted by: kwaka

To get a $1 Billion dollar fine like this, it is the government sending the public a message to not talk about topics that are declared taboo. This is how things work in China, lot of people arrested and missing for just talking about their covid experiences with it. With how Trump is going as well, looks more like Dictatorship these days.

They're all controlled oppostion IMO. It's all theater. Behind closed doors they're best buddies and laughing their heads of how we all fall for their games. Once we realize how there's no 'left' and 'right' or even 'democrat' or 'republican', then we can see how we are being divided , on purpose, by the same people trying to fool us into believing everything we see /read in the media that's happening.

a reply to: kwaka

It is about the role of the media in a free and open democracy. Some times people get things wrong, we all make mistakes. That is why lots of different views is important to keep each other in check.

Come on kwaka Jones repeatedly and consistently got it wrong even when he was aware of the controversy that surrounded the hateful hurtful unsubstantiated claims he was making.

It's not just like he did it once, or even in one place, but in several, and numerous different occasions.

Do you really think America will be better off with a one party system like China. Are you good with the level of government surveillance and restrictions on speech they have there?

I think the two-party system people assume to be the only colour of the day is a serious problem, and not just in America nether but here on my own side of the pond.

As to one party, well that's not even a semblance of democracy, so do i really need to answer that question?

Now where the level of surveillance is concerned, i will simply say that there is no true anonymity in this day of age and there has not been for quite some time, just a fact.

I am good with free speech kwaka, but not when its hate speech.

And if we are honest nothing is truly free in this world, not even words, as there is always a price to pay, somewhere somewhen or somehow.

As to the vaccine, we are not going to agree there, suffice to say i think it should be a choice, and that's my experience.

originally posted by: andy06shake

I have been known to wind up my 17-year-old a couple of times where certain conspiracies are concerned, generally stuff like little grey aliens or hollow/flat earth palaver, but that's just the kind of relationship we have.

Yes, I'm currently raising a 16-year-old, very high-functioning Autistic.

He's satirical and does voice impressions. He's hysterical.

He has minimal restrictions -- for safety reasons.

a reply to: Annee



My little 9-year-old nephew is high-functioning autistic.

Mainstream education and all that for the most part.

You want to hear the little fellow play acoustic guitar.

Wee guy has talent.

a reply to: andy06shake

Come on kwaka Jones repeatedly and consistently got it wrong even when he was aware of the controversy that surrounded the hateful hurtful unsubstantiated claims he was making.

Alex does get too much for me to listen too at times, change the channel. If he get too far off the track, people will find someone else. He done a lot of good work on 9/11, knows how nasty some of this government policy can get. A&E for 9/11 truth still have court cases pending over what really happened that day.

I don't know all about Sandy Hook from the other side of the world. As for what really happened at Port Arthur, censorship on the topic and questions about the official story linger. The gun reform topic was big after.

It's not just like he did it once, or even in one place, but in several, and numerous different occasions.

Lot of media companies guilty of this in many different ways.

As to one party, well that's not even a semblance of democracy, so do i really need to answer that question?

So how is democracy looking with one of the main contenders still on trial, maybe in jail during an election year. All this as some of his media support is shutdown? That is how these single party dictatorships work.

a reply to: kwaka

So how is democracy looking with one of the main contenders still on trial, maybe in jail during an election year.

Well, he is now a convicted felon but i dont think he will go to jail as long as his pre-sentence speech does not get too mental.

Nobody can be above the law kwaka, else you may as well give the man a crown and forget 4 July 1776 ever happened by my guess.

And it would be a shame to see a 248-year experiment in true democracy go to the wind.

I need to pick-up weans now, which means driving, so need to nip the convo in the bud for a spell again.

a reply to: ScarletDarkness

They're all controlled oppostion IMO.

Controlled by who and opposing what? I turned off my tv a long time ago.

a reply to: andy06shake

Well, he is now a convicted felon

It has not gone through the appeal process yet. Does not look like a lot of people care considering the crime, got a good bump in the polls and election funds.

Will he go to jail and get Epsteined? Will the Supreme Court step in and save the day? With this train wreak of democracy hold it together enough to keep that flame of liberty alive?

a reply to: kwaka

It has not gone through the appeal process yet.

I think the way it works is you need to be sentenced before an appeal procedure can begin in NY.

He won't go to jail kwaka, it will be a house arrest and ankle tag affair, if that, at least where these crimes are concerned.

But again i canny really talk now or ile be "breaking the law breaking the law" myself. LoL

I'll just leave this here...

I am not a particular fan of Alex Jones and/or Infowars, and I don't watch/listen to the program. But I had tuned him in a few times a long, long, time ago (before any of the Sandy Hook / Frog stuff). It was fairly obvious to me, even as far back as the Bohemian Grove 'invasion', that Jones was a sensationalist and drama queen. That was his shtick, and it was pretty obvious. At the time (and even now) there are a whole lot of crazy alt-media types 'out there', and I guess my feelings about all of them is...hey, maybe one of these days they'll actually be onto something. Beyond this I don't pay much attention to them. Regardless, I believe they have every right to say whatever they want, and I will defend that alone.

The odd part about Jones' evolution (in my mind) is "where" he wound up getting in trouble, and with "whom". Neither were the ones I suspected, and this was a surprise (though not a complete surprise).

I always felt Jones was walking a fine line with some of the words he chose. He would have done well to include words like "might", "likely", and "possibly". Instead, he chose words like "fact", "absolute truth", and "definitely". In the legal world, allegations like this create provable libel and slander situations. And, this is where I thought he would run afoul with the law, but this isn't what really took him down. On the contrary, it was the "Cancel Culture" who managed to get to him first.

There's an important takeaway from all this.

This should be a message to everyone, not just Alex Jones haters, about the new and very dangerous paradigms in our society today. Okay, Jones can be 'out there' sometimes, but the undercurrent here is a steady encroachment on freedom of expression, speech and liberty. And THIS applies to everyone, not just Alex Jones.

The often quoted phrase in internet times is..."Haters gonna' hate. Okay, but it's their right to do so, AND 'haters' exist on all sides of any issue, person, policy or thing. Alex Jones notwithstanding, tomorrow the haters could (and likely will...sooner or later) focus on YOU, and this is a worry for all of us (i.e. blue, red, yellow, rainbow, or whatever color). The winning side seldom takes note of this...until they're suddenly on the losing side.

This societal trajectory in the USA has reached it's apogee, driven largely by the left. The upward trajectory is over, and now the trajectory is downward. This is not a positive development (for anyone / everyone), and more and more people, cultures, persuasions and ideologies are going to get ensnared in this net of 'cancellation' as the trajectory comes back down. The point of 'impact' (as it were) is...tyranny and dictatorship. And while some may view that grass as being greener on the other side of the proverbial fence, trust me it is not, not even close.

People would be wise to consider these points.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

The people who are the most despised in society being denied civil liberties is the epitome of canary in a coal mine.

When you look at the way they treat Trump, J6 people, Jones, pro-life protesters ect from Fauci, former POTUS who are not Trump, summer of love people, corporate news pundits and pro-abortion protesters there is a clear and wide gap.

One not be a supporter or detractor of any of the above to make the obvious conclusion.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

The people who are the most despised in society being denied civil liberties is the epitome of canary in a coal mine.

When you look at the way they treat Trump, J6 people, Jones, pro-life protesters ect from Fauci, former POTUS who are not Trump, summer of love people, corporate news pundits and pro-abortion protesters there is a clear and wide gap.

One not be a supporter or detractor of any of the above to make the obvious conclusion.

Like him or hate him people shouldn't be happy with how his legal stuff went down. He was found in default for the first time ever for not providing in discovery proprietary information from a company that was not infowars nor owned by Jones or affiliated with Jones (Google).

Somehow I assume the bias of posters because of who the person is and they have ignored how scary the precedent that it sets will be.

If you could post clips or exact quotes with context on what you guys didn't like, it would be nice to know what he said because when I was looking into it I didn't look because I didn't want to bias myself against him. I wonder if you guys came with that same energy about Trump suing all the media companies for calling him a Russian agent or the kid who was in "blackface" at the KC Chief's game.

a reply to: BigDuckEnergy

The Texas and Connecticut directed verdicts that used each case as a cudgel for eachother as well.

It was a farce of justice.

For instance an FBI agent is to receive 90 million dollars. And his name was never even mentioned by Jones.