Slavery reparations are being challenged in court!!!

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: SteamyAmerican
I’m waiting for when they come across the value of Irish being less than that of Africans at one time in US history.

Irish where never enslaved in The American Colonies. It's an urban myth.

you are correct, they were just a step above slaves, many were indentured servants who died before they served their contracts out, or broke some law that extended their time, and many were forced into indentured service. all while many more than a few were treated just like they were property of their contract holders. might as well been a slave.

my greatest grandfather was one.

a reply to: budzprime69

That's the problem. WE don't have a say so, it's all up to the pandering politicians what happens to OUR money, but some have been so brainwashed into thinking we should have White Guilt over something we didn't do.

a reply to: DAVID64

Who exactly told you that you should have "white guilt"?
Noone has said that to you I'm sure.

originally posted by: budzprime69

originally posted by: Solvedit

originally posted by: Boogerpicker
a reply to: Solvedit

Seems you pretty conveniently left out the word "emmancipation." Do you know what that word means?

It means Confederates were not allowed to make claims for the emmancipppation or freeing of their slaves which caused said Confederates financial loss.

With your mindset of people had been property but now are not says many things about you.

What on earth are you talking about? The Constitutional amendment quoted in the OP is actually not germane to the issue.

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: DAVID64

Who exactly told you that you should have "white guilt"?
Noone has said that to you I'm sure.

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you should have "white guilt"

a reply to: SteamyAmerican



Ummm...S'allright...I identify as a black...Irishman...with rainbow hair...

Soooo...that means I can cut to the front of that ole reparations line...and hold two hands out...for two handouts...


Or is that...three...

Krunch...

Yes...three licks to get to the center of that particular...lollipop...





YouSir

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: Solvedit

Here's a thought, maybe don't enslave people.

Damn near everyone alive today is a descendant of a slave at one point in time or another. So…where’s the cutoff?

originally posted by: ntech620
I have been saying slavery reparations violate the 14th Amendment for years. Now there's a lawsuit about it.

Section 4

Reparations are not said to violate Section 4 but the Equal Protection Clause.

The 14th Amendment only means reparations based on race and not on slavery would be illegal.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: Solvedit

Here's a thought, maybe don't enslave people.

Damn near everyone alive today is a descendant of a slave at one point of time or another. So…where’s the cutoff?

Budzprime is mixed up. I was only saying Section 4 prohibits paying slaveholders for the loss of slaves.

The South paid reparations in land, wealth, blood, and their way of life. They even paid with their history, now forbidden by the liberals. So the freed slaves didn't get 40 acres and a mule, no matter, as their slavery was paid for in full during the Civil War by both the North as well as the South.

If the current descendants of slaves have anything left to make reparations about, they better start a class action lawsuit and be prepared to have the slavery matter decided and over with regardless of the outcome of the lawsuit. Otherwise, this whole issue was over almost one hundred and sixty years ago when the Civil War ended and the slaves were freed.

. . . Like my father before me I will work the land
And like my brother above me Who took a rebel stand
He was just 18, proud and brave But a Yankee laid him in his grave
I swear by the mud below my feet You can't raise a Kane back up When he's in defeat

The night they drove old Dixie down
And the bells were ringing
The night they drove old Dixie down
And all the people were singing They went,
"Na, na, la, na, na, la"

Tax payers in that city need to remember this next time their city wants to pass a bond to pay for improvement. Vote No. Same with cities wasting millions on taking care of illegals but won't spend same amount to take care of homeless people.

originally posted by: SteamyAmerican
I’m waiting for when they come across the value of Irish being less than that of Africans at one time in US history.

Should be an interesting day in court.

I've been thinking the same thing for years....It will never happen though, the Irish are too white...and probably vote republican so they've no interest in reparations for the Irish.

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: SteamyAmerican
I’m waiting for when they come across the value of Irish being less than that of Africans at one time in US history.

Lol... then by that reasoning blacks were never enslaved in America either.
Technically black weren't enslaved in America...their own folk "enslaved" them and then sold them...so reparations should come from Africa.

Irish where never enslaved in The American Colonies. It's an urban myth.

a reply to: TheMichiganSwampBuck

What say you of the land they worked along with their brothers and sisters and so forth? Blood sweat and tears mostly came from the land hands. Don't try and suger coat it like the previous owners of slaves had it hard. They had slaves for God's sake to do the work.
Talk about out of touch. I'm not saying pay the descendants of former slaves but atleast show some decency.

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: argentus

How does one account for the generations of families that at one point had almost been forced into a ghetto? To a large extent certain opportunities are much more of a challenge to get than say those not affected by the abolished of slavery. It has already been proven that dramatic events can cause mental instability in the children and grandchildren.
I'm not saying your incorrect at all but just want to point out that many aspects play into this.
Me personally I am kinda on the fence about reparations. My reason for that is that bad characters exist in every fabric of society and a reparations program would be abused and take money away from families directly impacted generations later.

Generally when a whole race (group, bunch or individual) of people has been wronged we look for the proximate cause. The proximate cause of slavery was Africans enslaving their own people...so basically they caused whatever supposed oppression those who have never been slaves and are free folk feel today.
Blame them...and black folks still practice their tribalism today just look at the black on black murder rate. They want reparations from the wrong people...they need to talk to the folks in Africa.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: SteamyAmerican
I’m waiting for when they come across the value of Irish being less than that of Africans at one time in US history.

Irish where never enslaved in The American Colonies. It's an urban myth.

you are correct, they were just a step above slaves, many were indentured servants who died before they served their contracts out, or broke some law that extended their time, and many were forced into indentured service. all while many more than a few were treated just like they were property of their contract holders. might as well been a slave.

my greatest grandfather was one.

Yes the Irish were a "step above" but worth less, we're abused more and died more often from exposure.
But..yea know
.Protestants and all right?

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: Solvedit

Here's a thought, maybe don't enslave people.

Damn near everyone alive today is a descendant of a slave at one point in time or another. So…where’s the cutoff?

The libs aren't educated enough to k ow that slavery has been around d since the dawn of mankind.
.or that there or.more slaves in Africa today than there ever were in the US

originally posted by: Solvedit

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: Solvedit

Here's a thought, maybe don't enslave people.

Damn near everyone alive today is a descendant of a slave at one point of time or another. So…where’s the cutoff?

Budzprime is mixed up. I was only saying Section 4 prohibits paying slaveholders for the loss of slaves.

I wonder if budzprime is OK with the families of the almost 4000 free blacks who owned almost 13000 slaves chipping in out of pocket to help out with those reparations?
Word on the street is that the black slave owners treated their slaves horrifically...

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: argentus

How does one account for the generations of families that at one point had almost been forced into a ghetto? To a large extent certain opportunities are much more of a challenge to get than say those not affected by the abolished of slavery. It has already been proven that dramatic events can cause mental instability in the children and grandchildren.
I'm not saying your incorrect at all but just want to point out that many aspects play into this.
Me personally I am kinda on the fence about reparations. My reason for that is that bad characters exist in every fabric of society and a reparations program would be abused and take money away from families directly impacted generations later.

I think that the party that forced Blacks into the ghetto in the first place should get some negative recognition for that.

After all, it was the Democrat party.

You should probably read up on America's history of “urban renewal,” also known as “slum clearance”.

The same Democrat party that owned the slaves in the South in the first place.

The same Democrat party that started a Civil war about the issue.

The same Democrat party that when they lost the war, funded the KKK to try to take back what political clout they had in the South.

Keep in mind, the KKK wanted you to swear fealty to the Democratic party or get lynched.

Did you know that the Democrat party through the KKK lynched over 1,200 white people too because they didn't promise fealty to the Democratic party?

Bet you didn't....

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: TheMichiganSwampBuck

What say you of the land they worked along with their brothers and sisters and so forth? Blood sweat and tears mostly came from the land hands. Don't try and suger coat it like the previous owners of slaves had it hard. They had slaves for God's sake to do the work.
Talk about out of touch. I'm not saying pay the descendants of former slaves but atleast show some decency.

And if there were no slaves then they would hire people to do it....for dirt cheap since there were always people who were willing to work.