Existance of Elixir of Life? (or similar)

>>Gnosis/Grail/KundiliniForce might
be a few of the avenues that
would address the 'Elixir' 'Nectar'

Originally posted by siriuslyone
>>Gnosis/Grail/KundiliniForce might
be a few of the avenues that
would address the 'Elixir' 'Nectar'

>>correction...it is Kundalini Force not kundilini.

thanks,
BTW, the 'zzzzzzzzzzzzz...' indicates that i'm off-line now

Originally posted by St Udio
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...
but, you know- - your quest is also
part of the epic 'Heros Quest'(journey)
and you (your Id) might be revolted
and turn away from capturing that
'fleece' 'grail' et al
.....

yeah, just talking about it here last night already did that to me.

[edit on 17-4-2005 by Incognita]

Great post guys.
Like to join in if i may.
I would be interested to receive your U2U,s for perusal and comment.

This is a very well done site on the essence of Sophia.

www.crystalinks.com...

hmmm. I read some about kundalini, this-

www.crystalinks.com...

Interesting but I think I'm going to attack this more scientific. While energies are fascinating, and supernatural phenomenon is fun to play around with, I feel so much safer working with vials and stuff like that. Not that I'm not interested, but it's just another topic. It's cool that other people like to talk about this stuff though, I'm glad I found this website.

Nice talking with you..
Good luck with your scientific endeavors...

Well, adding to the thread now: (stuff I picked up this week)

I've found some very bazaar information on advanced medicine of the past. And I'm wondering why it would seem so far fetched that they would know things like this. I'm sure it's been buried. With every scrap of information I dig up I only become more and more certain. How on earth would the ancient world know to put zinc on their eyes to cure vision problems? I'm sure we only officially discovered that scientifically at most within the last couple hundred years. And how do they know about the qualities and effects of things like Aluminum in the human body. They must have been atleast as knowledgeable as we are. Since we can find no technology that would explain how they got this knowledge, we have to assume it came from somewhere before. And I'm betting whatever that source of information was, was mighty supreme.

Another thing that struck me a couple years ago was a discovery channel show about extinct minerals and elements that have been found in fossils in various parts of the earth. Now THAT's vital information. The possibility can't be ruled out that at some point in time the atmosphere of the earth itself allowed for a MUCH longer life-span. That might explain some opinions that the so-called Adam and Eve lived for hundreds of years. That's a bunch of conjecture of course.

I've stumbled on loads of other fascinating junk, but unrelated to this topic, isn't learning fun?

Still digging. Any thoughts?


[edit on 24-4-2005 by Incognita]

A friend of mine, and one of his other friends cooked up something using gold, and sodium. It went through three color stages before it was finished, and he told me that a crystal grew out of it.
It looked like a tree, and they ground it up and ate it.
At least that is what he said, and since he is quite intellectually gifted, I don't doubt it. Whether it was lapsis excellis? or not, I don't know. David Hudson and monatomic gold is an interesting related subject, and St. Germaine too.
I once read that Flinders-Petrie, the Egyptologist found a storeroom full of monatomic gold, or that is what it is thought he found. It was a white powder, perfectly pure, uniform, and exceedingly fine, it passed through his finest sieve mesh. He never knew what it was.

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Originally posted by Incognita
Well, adding to the thread now: (stuff I picked up this week)

I've found some very bazaar information on advanced medicine of the past. And I'm wondering why it would seem so far fetched that they would know things like this. I'm sure it's been buried. With every scrap of information I dig up I only become more and more certain. How on earth would the ancient world know to put zinc on their eyes to cure vision problems? I'm sure we only officially discovered that scientifically at most within the last couple hundred years. And how do they know about the qualities and effects of things like Aluminum in the human body. They must have been atleast as knowledgeable as we are. Since we can find no technology that would explain how they got this knowledge, we have to assume it came from somewhere before. And I'm betting whatever that source of information was, was mighty supreme.

Another thing that struck me a couple years ago was a discovery channel show about extinct minerals and elements that have been found in fossils in various parts of the earth. Now THAT's vital information. The possibility can't be ruled out that at some point in time the atmosphere of the earth itself allowed for a MUCH longer life-span. That might explain some opinions that the so-called Adam and Eve lived for hundreds of years. That's a bunch of conjecture of course.

I've stumbled on loads of other fascinating junk, but unrelated to this topic, isn't learning fun?

Still digging. Any thoughts?


[edit on 24-4-2005 by Incognita]

Dig on..LOL..Science is an infant compared to the ancient wisdoms,,When all science can say is we are a "string theory" it is obvious they have never visited the cosmos.
All this work is hidden to initiates,and will remain so.
While watching 'the changing of the guards" at the Vatican, the new pick is one who will keep the hidden work well.
I could, would give you a list of a few books to readm but do not know if you would take them siriusly,,
There are over 200 miles of gold rooms in cave in Peru, why is this not common wisdom? Because hidden in those caves is all the wisdom of the Universe, and in the feet of the Sphinx.
What about the female skeleton recently found with her alien baby skeleton which still has no explanation, same as levitation used to build the pyramids.
Science makes me want to hurl with their 'baby' explanations.They have "TRIED" to embalm as the ancients did, with no luck,the only
reason we have made such stride in the last 50 years is because of the "gray treaty."
Stay in touch...

Scientist says new treatments could let humans live for centuries



SYDNEY : Humans could live for hundreds of years as scientists develop treatments to "cure" old age like any other disease, a US researcher said on Thursday.

Michigan State University clinical professor of medicine Michael Fossel said researchers had already "rejuvenated" skin cells in the laboratory and the potential existed to expand the technolgy to turn back the entire ageing process.

"We're altering the amount of gene expression and in skin cell tissue in the labratory we can actually reset the clock and take old cells and make them act like young cells," he told AFP.

"The question that we want to ask ourselves is 'can we do this to people?'

"The idea that you cannot reverse ageing in cells or tissue is wrong, you can. We just don't know if it will be useful clinically, a lot of us suspect it will but we haven't tested it yet."

Fossel, in Sydney to address a conference on longevity, said scientists had altered the way cells act.

"What we essentially do is reset the cells to do what they used to do when you were young," he said. "We don't change them, alter them, no we just reset them to do exactly what they did decades prior to what they're doing now.

"What sets the clock in you is a change in gene expression that occurs as you get older. It has to do with dividing cells and the damage they cause to all the other cells.

"For example, in your heart, when people die of heart attacks they die because their vessels have problems, and that clock is set right in the cells that lie in the vessels and what we can do is reset those clocks. So the
question is what happens when we do it? In the lab it works beautifully, but again it's different trying it in people."

He said the research had the potential to dramatically affect ageing.

"If we reset that clock we don't know what the limit becomes," he said.

"There's a guy at Cambridge who says it's 5,000 years, others say it won't change.

"Personally, at a guess I'd say it probably would be a couple of centuries but the way I often described the limit is indefinite, because really I don't know."

Asked if people should simply accept ageing as a part of life, Fossel said people already treated it as a disease.

"That same biologist who'll tell you that ageing is not a disease will be dying his hair and using retin-A for his skin and so on," he said.

"It's treating the symptoms of ageing, not the root cause, which is what I'm talking about."

Fossel admitted many of his peers were sceptical about his theories but said the idea of reversing ageing challenged fundamental concepts.

"I find its the medical and biology students who are the most receptive," he said. "It reminds me of that old adage in physics - old theories don't die, just their proponents do'."

Fossel, who will publish a book called "Cells, Ageing and Human Disease" next month, said scientists were constantly making new discoveries relating to ageing. - AFP


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Wow, thanks to all!

freyd rautha: That's a great article, I don't mind that you don't recall where it came from, it has enough specifics in it to track it down if need be, but I'll be sure to look into that book, good stuff. Also, something I had no idea about. I haven't really been keeping up to date on much modern medical stories, nose in the past. I also wonder if they're really onto something here won't the governments of the world or some societies shush them up or something?

siriuslyone: I would love to get a list of books from you, you've got some interesting stuff to say on the subject. Please give, whether or not I take it seriously isn't something you'll ever really know anyways! But I would really appreciate it!

blackguard: Thanks for the links, I had heard of the story of the sword and sphere before but never heard it applied to immortality of anything of that nature so good to know! I have casually visited that other website before, about alchemy, but what can I say, I prefer to have books in front of me for some reason. I'll get around to going through their stuff a little more thoroughly at some point.

Then again, I have to wonder if anyone really has discovered this stuff yet, it would be up for the highest bidder wouldn't it? = the most unworthy, foul, and disreputable wealthy of planet earth. right? Most secret societies have loads of cash stashed away though. What is the point of them keeping something like that a secret, asuming they have it?

u seek the orme

there is an alchemist that once said "its so easy a child can make it".

>>siriuslyone: I would love to get a list of books from you, you've got some interesting stuff to say on the subject. Please give, whether or not I take it seriously isn't something you'll ever really know anyways! But I would really appreciate it! >>

The Urantia Book-Urantia foundation
Secrets of all Ages--Manley Hall
The Sirius Mystery-Robert Temple
Behold a Pale Horse--William Cooper

For starters,,friend..

Ok, this "Urantia" book is really fat and has really thin pages. So, this may take me a long time to get around to reading. Don't you just want to narrow it down for me, you know you do, you want to so bad.
I notice this came out around the same time as Scientology, and some other stuff, there must have been something in the air...

I'm going to college for the sole purpose of creating this mad chemical, and I fully intend to reach my destination... or die trying

Interesting but I think I'm going to attack this more scientific.

If the above statements are accurate, perhaps you may want to look into this information.

Do You Want to Live Forever?

Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence

While it appears you are looking for the ancient Elixer, Aubrey de Grey is looking for a modern Elixer via scientific inquiry. You are both working for the same end result, looking from different perspectives.

Perhaps it may help your research work if you try to take the time to understand his world of gerontologists. Not only has his work put him at the forefront of a field that might best be called theoretical biogerontology, but also some of its foremost researchers have agreed to add their names to his papers and letters as coauthors. He has lots of great links on his site to this type of inquiry.

I Hope this may be fruitful in some small way.

As for your schooling.....
Maintain your focus on your goal, talk about it with everyone you meet, daydream, dream, research, and keep it in the front of your mind always. Put every spare moment of your time, and all your energy toward accomplishing it. Even if it takes a lifetime.

If you can sustain this strength of focus you will, even against insurmountable odds, inevitably succeed.

This is the hidden heart of both magic and science.

makeitso

Yes, thank you!
I've got a notebook full of "leads" I think that de Grey's name is in there somewhere. I hadn't yet seen anything about them though, that's a nice long essay on that link, so thanks.

One of the things that puts a hitch in this system is bacteria and viruses.
These sorts of things need to be looked at carefully. Just being able to stop the ageing process doesn't necessarily mean eternal life, after all. You will still be most likely capable of suffering all the regular ailments of a normal body, right? The one thing that would be one of the worst hitches in the system would probably be viral infections. I mean, you can stop your body from getting old but what happens with viruses and other indirect damage to the body.

The chemical I'm going to work on would only work on skin burns, bone breaks, cancer, etc. as well as the basic effects of old age. But I don't know what, if anything, it would do to viruses. Perhaps if you can restore your body to it's most healthy state, something like viruses will have no effect on you at all. I must confess, things like the Ebola virus and such would be a tough villain to combat, even if you were eternally young.

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