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Gunsmith Sentenced to Prison For Legal Firearm Told: “The Second Amendment Doesn’t Exist in My C

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posted on May, 21 2024 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Disgusted123
The man was manufacturing "ghost" guns.

It's against the law. Most people know it.

Don't manufacture ghost guns, and you won't be going to jail. Right?


The New York law is unconstitutional.
New York got slapped by the Supremes with the Bruen decision.
They then went and doubled down on stupid creating even more unconstitutional gun laws.
This is going back up and if it gets to the Supremes they are going to annihilate New York again.
This guy is going to be a hero in New York, even to the gun grabbers who are clueless authoritarians.



posted on May, 21 2024 @ 05:48 PM
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Atf doesn't care about what is legal

www.atf.gov...

If you read that it's insane they have absolutely 0 authority over anything that is not a firearm but yet if a item is capable of reducing the report by there own definition is even by 1 decibel it counts

Just insane when you realize this means if u own a pillow and a gun they say u broke the law



posted on May, 21 2024 @ 05:49 PM
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If Trump wins he should send US Marshalls to arrest this "judge." She openly, proudly violated her oath to the Constitution.

What a disgrace.
edit on 21-5-2024 by YourFaceAgain because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2024 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: Vermilion
New York got slapped by the Supremes with the Bruen decision.


It wasn't just New York that got slapped by the Bruen decision. Doesn't the Constitution apply equally to all 50 states, and therefore the Bruen decision as well? Because if the second amendment means you can protect yourself at home or when you're away from home in New York, that would apply just the same if you lived in Illinois, or any other state, right?

That means that having to pay for a FOID card or a CCW permit is unconstitutional across the board - and in all 50 states. The Second Amendment is a right, not a privilege we have to pay for.
edit on 21-5-2024 by Station27 because: Fixed a typo.



posted on May, 21 2024 @ 09:50 PM
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At some point Patriots must act!

The second amendment doesn't exist in my courtroom????

We can not and should not depend on such situations resolving themselves.

This so called judge should be hiding in fear.

The victim should be released, by whatever means necessary.

This country will not be taken back by elections, by Trump, by the SCOTUS.

It's time to water the tree of Liberty!

I want my Children and Grandchildren to live in a free society with rights.
Not a banana Republic as our once great nation has become



posted on May, 21 2024 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

This is why some "type" of people should never be allowed in positions of power, the power tends to go to their fat arses.

That is what happens to that wannabe court dictators judge, she needs to be send back to law school.




Am I the Only one who Thinks the People of United States of America Need to Demand Judicial Reform NOW ? Our Entire Legal System has been Corrupted beyond Belief IMO . What do you Think needs to be Done Marge ?
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posted on May, 21 2024 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: Station27

If you really want to give NY or CA fits, just move there from VA but don't say you've moved, just say you're visiting.

And then, because of the "full faith & credit" clause of the constitution, they must honor VA's right to allow its citizens the right to own and carry firearms.

When I went to NY for an extended "visit "after living in VA for 6 years, all I had to do in order to bring my S&W 9mm with me was fill out some paperwork and wait 30 days for them to process it. Of course it took them 37 days but I anticipated that and sent the form in 45 days before my "visit".

That was 3 years ago, and I'm still visiting.

Hey, I like taking long vacations...lol.



posted on May, 21 2024 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: SchrodingersRat

Could you do that Visiting New Jersey to ? I dunno about that......



posted on May, 22 2024 @ 02:21 AM
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originally posted by: theatreboy


“The Second Amendment doesn’t exist in my courtroom.”



Why hasn't this gone to Appeals and the Supreme Court.

People who don't believe in America should really leave.



posted on May, 22 2024 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: SchrodingersRat
I hope you are correct, but I feel that is not the case. There have been too many court cased that should have been reversed/overturned at the Appellate Courts that were not.



posted on May, 22 2024 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: Disgusted123

Just making something is not a crime. If he sold them illegally, or used them to commit another crime, that is another matter. Just building something is not a crime, using that item to then commit a crime THERE is you violation, there is your crime.
What's next, going after people who just think about committing a crime? Then go arrest and charge all the murder mystery Authors and Screenwriters.

edit on 22-5-2024 by TheSemiskepticII because: flat keyboards and fat fingers equals typos



posted on May, 22 2024 @ 09:12 PM
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a reply to: Disgusted123

I wonder about that statement, I didn't know about this industry until it was posted in this thread.


WHAT IS A GHOST GUN?
In general, a “ghost gun” is any kind of firearm made at home from materials not already considered firearms under the law. There are no exact, legal definitions of “80% receivers” or “unfinished firearms,” but ghost guns are most often made from these.

The media and politicians would like to spread the mistaken belief that the only legal way to acquire a gun is to buy one from a dealer or a private sale. While state laws for building privately made firearms vary, in general, federal law does not (nor has it ever) required Americans to serialize or register guns they build for themselves.



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GHOST GUN SUPPLIER

These guys would be shut down if it was truly illegal.

I don't own a gun or plan on getting one, but I support the American constitution, it must be protected at all costs against activists judges like this, if they can take out the 2nd, pretty everything else will follow right behind it.

edit on 22-5-2024 by NewGuy3 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2024 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: theatreboy




The Second Amendment doesn’t exist in my courtroom



Wow!
That crazy broad actually said that?

These Liberal activists need to be barred from positions of power, that’s all they do is abuse it.



posted on May, 24 2024 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: theatreboy

All it is ...is they can't control quantity, quality, who made it, how many...the GOV....needs to "REGISTER" or verify #'s.(BS, BS...we know their tracking).

You know....to identify......( SARCASM. I own 5 handguns, carry 1.)

You can build weapons, can't sell 'em anywhere that I know of. Gun shows have been hit w restricts

Still...we should be able to make whatever....but...the ATF....after a point, will make sure we can't.


According to the ATF,the guy was within the law to make guns for his personal use.



posted on May, 24 2024 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

I know, right? I've known more than a few built, modified...especially farms, outta Suburbia towns around. No big deal. Do what you do. Build em. Just...dont sell them.

Freaks the F outta ATF when they see a bunch turn up. Ghosts guns waaaay more problematic.

What the hell? If I wanna build a Howitzer in my yard? I should be able to! But, we get it. Big Brother n all.

Anyone calculated about how many guns, fabricated unknown that way with the printing and ghosting-no #'s?



posted on May, 24 2024 @ 07:42 PM
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And here she is...
lawnews.hofstra.edu... ved/



posted on May, 25 2024 @ 03:13 AM
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americanmilitarynews.com...

As much as 1) if the judge actually said that exact phase. Which I highly doubt was just those words. It's a pretty dumb thing to say

As relation to the charges. As per the link. He broke state laws. A jury convicted him

For me the big question is. Fire arms are readily available everywhere. He spent 40k on parts to build unidentifiable weapons...there's a reason for that. Especially When he could have had more than what he did for 40k legally. Clearly there's more to the story



posted on May, 25 2024 @ 04:03 AM
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originally posted by: GenX77
americanmilitarynews.com...

As much as 1) if the judge actually said that exact phase. Which I highly doubt was just those words. It's a pretty dumb thing to say

As relation to the charges. As per the link. He broke state laws. A jury convicted him

For me the big question is. Fire arms are readily available everywhere. He spent 40k on parts to build unidentifiable weapons...there's a reason for that. Especially When he could have had more than what he did for 40k legally. Clearly there's more to the story


Sometimes...there is NOT anything to the story. he might a been wanting to gunsmith for someone and was learning the craft by actually building them.



posted on May, 25 2024 @ 04:42 AM
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a reply to: theatreboy

When do the pitch forks come out? When and what is going to be the breaking point?

edit on 25-5-2024 by 38181 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 25 2024 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: yuppa

So again if that is true. He was wanting to learn that. Instead of spending 40k. Go and learn it legitimately through a legitimate avenue.

It's like the flat earth rocket guy. He died trying to prove his theory but he didn't have to. He could of bought a high altitude balloon and set up and done it legitimately.

The facts are there are state laws that say you can't do that in NYS and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it were in multiple states

the right are solely about law and order until something like this comes along and they have to play preztle mind games to try and justify something illegal under the guise of the 2nd amendment

I'd like to see the actual court transcript of what the judge said but nowhere in the 2nd amendment does it say you have the right to produce your own guns. Just that you have a right to bear arms. And the fact that it's such a loose constitutional right. It needs to be amended...seeing as it's an amendment
edit on 25-5-2024 by GenX77 because: Grammar



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