New Whistleblower: "I worked on a team that dealt with with NHI technology and left in 2018."

Tittle from Reddit

New whistleblower. Says they quit because they thought we were shooting down craft.

Reads more like fan fiction to me with several familiar tropes.

Interesting if true.

Says Grusch is real deal and interviewed several of his colleagues and he was approached by unnamed film maker - I assume Fox or Corbell.

I will wait and see, I’m initially skeptical about this one.

If true they are not one of the fifty whistleblowers but worked with them.

Hi, I'm writing this because I never got any sort of debrief or moment to decompress from a job I quit in February of 2018. I worked for an agency that dealt with issues related to non-human intelligence. Sometimes these were referred to as EBE's, or as a friend lovingly called them, "Ayyys".

It was a sort of open secret I was let in on at some point in the late 90s that if a large-scale invasion or threat to the mainland US were to materialize, the US had an "ultimate trump-card" of sorts that would render everything we were working on as completely obsolete. Jokes like "well, work smarter not harder on 'x' because if it were to come down to it, we wouldn't use that technology anyway." weren't uncommon. I assumed this was referring to nukes.

The interview took place in a SCIF in someone's house. Looking back, this was most likely a house that wasn't lived in, but just used for the purpose of interviewing potential hires without giving away the location. It's also likely this was the location because this agency doesn't exist in any official capacity. Yes, it has a name, it gets sort-of-kind-of funding. Saying the name would get me killed. I wish I were exaggerating, I was told the name at the start of the interview, and I had never heard of it before. I've never even said the name out loud. Paradoxically, even though the agency "doesn't exist" if someone knew the name, it's likely a paper trail exists through publicly available documents. A lot of the information isn't classified because the agency is so secretive going through the process to classify it in the first place would reveal it to too many people.

Later, I worked in a facility within-a-facility just like the one I had tried to inspect. It stored a craft. Being near the craft for extended periods of time is extremely dangerous, especially if it is being experimented on with power. I didn't observe any injuries to anyone while I was there, but all sorts of long-term nasty injuries were relayed to me through rumors and warnings. The craft was shaped like a dreidel without the handle. There was a large exterior piece that went missing when it was recovered. The theory is it acted as a stabilizer, although some argue it was a crude weapon. It sat in a custom hydraulic rig that could be used to rotate it into all sorts of different positions, kind of like those aerotrim astronaut training balls where they spin you around. I wasn't on the team that got to use the rotation rig. The rig was so large and extensive I spent a few weeks thinking it was part of the craft before someone told me otherwise. Typically, the craft would held on its side in the rig for easier storage. Its weight just naturally sat it that way, although it was intended to be flown vertically.

The shape was directly informed by its purpose. Every shape is custom molded in a metallic material that would revolutionize the way we travel if we had it. In following the topic as much as I can manage to, I've seen some other people mention the material. There were some material scientists that had been working there for decades. I never got to go inside the craft. It was guarded 24/7. Boy, did I want to look.

Weapons research is a large wing, and is fairly new. It was absorbed by the Space Force when it the SF was created. Frustration with the SF as a whole is part of why I left shortly before it started. I don't know much about it. It has a high turnover rate and is dangerous to work in. People were injured and compensated by a large private aerospace contractor instead of the USG. Its main job is to strap a nuke to a reverse-engineered craft and just see what the hell happens.

Computer science is (or, was, it may have moved after I left) hq'd at a facility in my home state. This is rare, because most of the other wings are within a stones throw of DC, or Nevada. This is mostly based around researching the crafts navigation system. The navigation in every craft is the same. The craft use a system that originally befuddled generations of researchers, but it's essentially a 3D dijkstra algorithm. It finds points around the craft, and chooses the most efficient possible route through space time to get to that point. Some of the parameters it uses to gauge efficiency are totally unknown to us and are a serious point of contention. It's not autonomy, but rather obstacle avoidance not unlike what you would see in a self-driving car. But, the self driving car could go through air, space and water without worrying about what medium its in. Additionally, the algo accounts for the crafts place in time. I don't think this means that the craft time travel in the way we think they can, but rather go so fast that they experience dilation and can hit objects in the future, and, potentially, past at their target destination. It's possible they do this on purpose sometimes. I don't know much about the internal programming of the computer or how it actually does any of this. There are a few senior scientists that hold that information dear. One of them jokingly refers to it as "Ayyyy C", as in, C for NHI. I know that he doesn't work with a computer, only a pad of paper and pen.

Lots more in the Reddit post, that’s just a few samples.

a reply to: pianopraze

The guy's writing style doesn't speak to a the higher level of intellingce you'd expect from someone working on such a sensitive project. I would think a Top Security Clearance would be needed, and they don't hand those out to just anybody.

Seems pretty suspect to me.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: pianopraze

The guy's writing style doesn't speak to a the higher level of intellingce you'd expect from someone working on such a sensitive project. I would think a Top Security Clearance would be needed, and they don't hand those out to just anybody.

Seems pretty suspect to me.

A security clearance has nothing to do with IQ or level of education. If you go to a nuclear weapons facility in the Nevada desert, the Ph.D. nuclear physicist ordering a hamburger in the lunch line will have a Q clearance. The guy behind the counter flipping the burgers and the lady cleaning the restrooms will both also have Q clearances. The clearance is a measure of how trustworthy you are supposed to be, not a measure of how smart you are supposed to be.

a reply to: nugget1
Right! And evidently, he never had to sign a non-disclossure agreement in his life. Given him having some much to talk about and really say nothing, what are the odds?

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: pianopraze

The guy's writing style doesn't speak to a the higher level of intellingce you'd expect from someone working on such a sensitive project. I would think a Top Security Clearance would be needed, and they don't hand those out to just anybody.

Seems pretty suspect to me.

A security clearance has nothing to do with IQ or level of education. If you go to a nuclear weapons facility in the Nevada desert, the Ph.D. nuclear physicist ordering a hamburger in the lunch line will have a Q clearance. The guy behind the counter flipping the burgers and the lady cleaning the restrooms will both also have Q clearances. The clearance is a measure of how trustworthy you are supposed to be, not a measure of how smart you are supposed to be.

I would expect someone allowed up close and personal viewing of top secret things to have an IQ higher than a lunchroom clerk....and a better writting skills. Maybe he's the luchroom attendant looking for five minutes of fame?

a reply to: nugget1

I would go with the late night janitor….who has to sweep, mop, wax, buff, take out the garbage…from government and private labs and hangars …….to be a first hand witness.

👽🤔

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: pianopraze

The guy's writing style doesn't speak to a the higher level of intellingce you'd expect from someone working on such a sensitive project. I would think a Top Security Clearance would be needed, and they don't hand those out to just anybody.

Seems pretty suspect to me.

A security clearance has nothing to do with IQ or level of education. If you go to a nuclear weapons facility in the Nevada desert, the Ph.D. nuclear physicist ordering a hamburger in the lunch line will have a Q clearance. The guy behind the counter flipping the burgers and the lady cleaning the restrooms will both also have Q clearances. The clearance is a measure of how trustworthy you are supposed to be, not a measure of how smart you are supposed to be.

I would expect someone allowed up close and personal viewing of top secret things to have an IQ higher than a lunchroom clerk....and a better writting skills. Maybe he's the luchroom attendant looking for five minutes of fame?

Your first post was fine as it was and you didn't directly correlate clearance to IQ.

The pedant had to ignore the nuance of your post to treat you like a child, which is the modus operandi of Internet fact-checkers in order to present their agitprop.

There are red flags in the excerpt posted in the OP and you simply pointed out what many of us have noted coming from "leakers". I very much doubt people working on small subsystems of alien craft would be told what they're working on or be spending time around the craft. We have much smaller secrets that are put under much deeper cover. Some of our next generation platforms have operation failures because the different parts of the engineering work are in silos.

I say that all while also believing NHI are just as real as you and me. I think anybody hoping for answers from black project leakers should instead hope that the NHI decides they want you to know. They will make Reddit and YouTube superfluous to the process.

On disinfo: The big one was the guy that said we had some sort of exchange or visited other places. We've hardly been able to get our craft off the ground, let alone pilot them in a way that would be significant in any fashion.

Is he talking about Jason Sands and saying he is lying?

a reply to: pianopraze

I assume Fox or Corbell.

or that other flim flam huckster man greer.

a reply to: gippo88

No reference to Jason Sands.

And this person wants to remain anonymous not testify to congress, and purportedly refused to talk to un-named film maker.

Does that make him/her more or less credible?

Here he talks about Greer

I just did a quick google of what "CE5" is, believe it or not, I've never heard of it called that. This is along the lines of what it's like, I'm shocked that there's this much about it on the internet. It won't just be feint lights in the sky. As far as I know, remote communication isn't a thing.

Here he talks about Ramirez

2027 doesn't ring any bells for what I know. Lots of people claim their team will have a significant breakthrough at some point, and then it almost never happens.

originally posted by: pianopraze
a reply to: gippo88
No reference to Jason Sands.
And this person wants to remain anonymous not testify to congress, and purportedly refused to talk to un-named film maker.
Does that make him/her more or less credible?

Not directly but it is denying any type of collaboration with the nhi

A UFOTwitter poster made a pdf of the refit post:

Pdf link

It’s much easier to read on the pdf.

Here is the Twitter post

originally posted by: pianopraze
A UFOTwitter poster made a pdf of the refit post:
Pdf link
It’s much easier to read on the pdf.
Here is the Twitter post

The most interesting topics are in the subsequent answers (reddit), go read ...

The theory goes something like this: everything that has a life experience shares some sort of connection. These connections manifest themselves as some sort of mesh. The way the robots work in westworld is weird analogy but sort of what they believe. At some point, the mesh becomes dense enough for something to happen. I believe it has something to do with time, if enough shared history exists it can be manipulated somehow. The motivations behind this manipulation are unknown. Asking about this was an easy way to get in trouble.

AARO could be the security team. It also could be from the Pentagon with real intentions to help, but it was "hijacked" at some point by the security team. I don't know enough to really answer that, but that's my speculation.

They believe all life experiences time, and this time is saved in the form of memories and experiences to some sort of "mesh" not unlike the robots in westworld. They want this mesh to become a certain "size" so they can mess with it in some sort of way.

Not to congress directly. I'm currently waiting on some whistleblower protections to pass and considering this my practice run.

The dark part is that we aren't at the top of the food chain and most likely don't have the means to understand NHI intentions. This "net" of shared experiences they're trying to manipulate is completely inaccessible to us, the same way we cant' see all the colors insects

I'm a bit skeptical of this one, the person claims they need to keep their identity hidden at all costs, but then goes on to provide an awful lot of personal information. They don't really reveal anything new either, besides maybe the structure of some black budget organizations. Most of the NHI information also feels like second hand information, speculation, and rumors, nothing really solid imo. But the description of the routing/navigation system used by the craft is interesting.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I concur.

But I try not to judge. Let time show more.

Adding second reply:

originally posted by: gippo88

originally posted by: pianopraze
A UFOTwitter poster made a pdf of the refit post:
Pdf link
It’s much easier to read on the pdf.
Here is the Twitter post

The most interesting topics are in the subsequent answers (reddit), go read ...

That’s how I get to sleep at night.

Unless I find something interesting. That’s why many of my ufo threads are posted so late at night…


Adding, this post by the Reddit op is interesting:

The clip congress showed of the little dome sitting still is a joke. We have videos of enormous, lit up craft at night. Radar data of flying at incomprehensible speeds, stopping on a dime, and then going 90 degrees in another direction. I'm mad these aren't in public hands. I saw someone comment about how Snowden didn't see anything about NHI, and its because these videos exist on one server in one building.

Reddit link

Ok, just re-read this old post on Reddit which was covered in old ATS threads.: Link

It sounds like same poster.

Am I wrong?

Well, he’s certainly not into modern UFO lore ( which is not anything bad BTW) since he said he never heard of CE5.

Also, if he's trying to remain anonymous he certainly should mask his usual writing style.

Another whistleblower, soon it will become pedestrian and as common as rain.

originally posted by: pianopraze
Ok, just re-read this old post on Reddit which was covered in old ATS threads.: Link

It sounds like same poster.

Am I wrong?

BTW...Very good research chops!