Senator Karim Bianchi, from Chile, telling was abducted 2012.

Senator Karim Bianchi, from Chile, telling for the first time he was abducted by a flying saucer in the Chilean Antarctic region, 2012.

Big one here. Chile’s Senator Bianchi saying he was abducted.

Twitter Video

Says he was in his car on the phone. The car stopped and so did the phone. Then he lost time and was in another location.

Watch the twitter video link above to see his personal account. Live on air.

Bold move.

Real experience or political play? I’m not up on Chilean politics, any locals still on ATS want to give us insight?

This aired 3 days ago I was told when I asked in the twitter thread.

Reddit discussion:

Alleged Bianchi abduction

The abduction and close encounter cases from South America are crazy. The book 'UFO Danger Zone', written in the 90s, details encounters in Brazil. Physical copies of the book are quite rare, and would probably cost hundreds of dollars.

UFO Danger Zone

a reply to: pianopraze

My experience on ATS in trying to get real, serious and honest with the ET UFOs is that much of the members would rather quibble over what some recent "whistlblower" had to say, what some government official or sector had to "reveal," or worst, what recently happened (or not) at the mysterious ranch. THEY really don't want to discuss abductions and the mysterious "medical exams" that many, many abductees were given--and for good reason.

The best place for anyone to start is at the beginning by downloading from Amazon a reprint of The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects. The price is an astounding $9.00 and the Kindle version is $2.00. That book was written in 1956 by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt one of the former heads of Project Blue Book. It contains a lot of info, it breaks the ice for the topic to the public as it details the early steps in the government's coverup program to hide the truth.

(It is a very curious thing that while original copies [I have two] can be expensive, but somebody has floated the bucks to offer this book as a reprint at an excellent price. No one that even faintly believes in UFOs should be without this informative book.)

originally posted by: ColeYounger2
Reddit discussion:

Alleged Bianchi abduction

The abduction and close encounter cases from South America are crazy. The book 'UFO Danger Zone', written in the 90s, details encounters in Brazil. Physical copies of the book are quite rare, and would probably cost hundreds of dollars.

UFO Danger Zone

TY

The source for that thread is the same twitter post in my Op.

They transcribed and paraphrased a bit more than I did as I wanted to let people decide for themselves without my coloring their view.

2012: “I was on my way from Natales to Punta Arenas. A large rotating light, a saucer, approaches me...my vehicle turned off...I was talking on the phone with someone, everything went off. And then I appeared about 200 kilometers ahead...and then I started to see owls everywhere. A person came and gave me an owl." And the events didn't stop there: "An old bald guy came to my office and brought me some papers. And he told me you have to spread the message. And he brought me some papers that were secret from NASA. He brought them there. And he told me that he was a person of another planet and that, since I had been abducted, he brought me those documents that I still have"

Anytime a politician is speaking I’m suspicious. I’m curious if this will help or hurt him with his demographic. I know there are a lot of believers in South America.

His account seems like something almost textbook iconic… car/phone cutting out, missing time, owls, mysterious men…

I try to be open minded about abductions. I’m sure some are lies, some are Trauma cover.

One of the commenters says he speaks the same language and he is suspicious of this guys body language.

Guess I’m failing to keep an open mind with this one. I mean, how do you know a politician is lying?

originally posted by: pianopraze
Guess I’m failing to keep an open mind with this one. I mean, how do you know a politician is lying?

I was told you can tell when politicians lie because their lips are moving.

But in general non-politicians who talk about their abduction experiences are not lying, they usually have had a genuine experience, though this doesn't mean they were abducted, it means they believe they were abducted. A Harvard researcher, Susan Clancy, did a study and wrote a book about this which she talks about here:

Abducted: How People Come to Believe They Were Kidnapped by Aliens


In summary she says most people believe their own alien abduction claims, but that doesn't mean they happened, and she explains how they come to have beliefs that the experiences were real, even though they were hypnogogic-based experiences.

John Mack from Harvard also researched abductions, but his peers almost universally admonished him for relying on hypnosis, which they said was not a reliable source of information, and it's sort of a bane of abduction studies because of that.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Then, you just have to deny the whole abduction experience for anybody regardless of the details that they proved or don't provide. That position ignores an awfully lot of data, but it must have an internal bias to back it up.

I suggest that rare is the experiencer that can be convinced that nothing real happened to them. For myself, I remember exactly what happened to me in the beginning and end of my two-hour nighttime little drive to my house one night in 1964 that should have taken no more than 10 minutes.

originally posted by: [post=27378709]Arbitrageur[/]I was told you can tell when politicians lie because their lips are moving.

But in general non-politicians who talk about their abduction experiences are not lying, they usually have had a genuine experience, though this doesn't mean they were abducted, it means they believe they were abducted.

Exactly.



As to abductions, I’m undecided.

I do believe we have tech to induce feeling of an abduction. Probably EM. Lots of threads on that…

originally posted by: pianopraze

originally posted by: ColeYounger2
Reddit discussion:

Alleged Bianchi abduction

The abduction and close encounter cases from South America are crazy. The book 'UFO Danger Zone', written in the 90s, details encounters in Brazil. Physical copies of the book are quite rare, and would probably cost hundreds of dollars.

UFO Danger Zone

TY

The source for that thread is the same twitter post in my Op.

They transcribed and paraphrased a bit more than I did as I wanted to let people decide for themselves without my coloring their view.

2012: “I was on my way from Natales to Punta Arenas. A large rotating light, a saucer, approaches me...my vehicle turned off...I was talking on the phone with someone, everything went off. And then I appeared about 200 kilometers ahead...and then I started to see owls everywhere. A person came and gave me an owl." And the events didn't stop there: "An old bald guy came to my office and brought me some papers. And he told me you have to spread the message. And he brought me some papers that were secret from NASA. He brought them there. And he told me that he was a person of another planet and that, since I had been abducted, he brought me those documents that I still have"

Anytime a politician is speaking I’m suspicious. I’m curious if this will help or hurt him with his demographic. I know there are a lot of believers in South America.

His account seems like something almost textbook iconic… car/phone cutting out, missing time, owls, mysterious men…

I try to be open minded about abductions. I’m sure some are lies, some are Trauma cover.

One of the commenters says he speaks the same language and he is suspicious of this guys body language.

Guess I’m failing to keep an open mind with this one. I mean, how do you know a politician is lying?

When it comes to abductiona by alleged E-ts I still don't accept them. I'm no judge of this man's character but he is not convincing. I heard some of his tale in his native Spanish. What I wonder is what does he have to offer E-ts? So I hit Google Search to see if there was something else of interest. I got these comments at Reddit and now Bianchi is a curiosity:
www.youtube.com...
Twin Peaks The Owls Are Not What They Seem - 2:26

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Gold-Web-2928
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1 day ago
The owl connection has always been interesting.

mattriver
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1 day ago
The movie “The Fourth Kind” from 2009 used owls too. That movie freaked me out!

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KamikazeFox_
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23 hr. ago
Dude. Can't watch it again to this day.

Last night I went outside and I was looking at the sky at night, head up in the air and said, " hey little buddies, can you show me something, a light a flash, I want to see something cool".

A owl hooted about 30 feet from me and I got a huge shiver up my spine and ran inside. All I could think of was that movie. I've only heard an owl where I live twice in the past 6 years, so the timing was just really spot on.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: pianopraze
Guess I’m failing to keep an open mind with this one. I mean, how do you know a politician is lying?

I was told you can tell when politicians lie because their lips are moving.

But in general non-politicians who talk about their abduction experiences are not lying, they usually have had a genuine experience, though this doesn't mean they were abducted, it means they believe they were abducted. A Harvard researcher, Susan Clancy, did a study and wrote a book about this which she talks about here:
snip

I watched only approx. 8:1/2 minutes of this woman 's stupidity (some YOUTUBE viewers offered their insults). She is negative, biased, closed-mindedm, etc. I can't stand people who say things such as: "I'm going to study a group of people for whom I know the event did not happen: alien abductes". So she's starting off close-minded. The says: "...because I don't think I have the thick skin required to challenge people's belief systems". How stupid! Everyone has a belief system, I'm the exception. Me and her are never going to meet so she's getting off easy. Even though she's not worth my time, I'm curious as to how she would answer this question: "How can false memories be created since memories are created by direct experience or if you are hipnotized and you are given a positive or negative suggestion to perform an act only in your mind that you will remember?"

I have to chuckle a lot when psychologists and psychiatrists come out with mental mumbo jumbo about how everyone who believes or knows they were abducted, actually weren't.

The school they went to doesn't know about what (to them) are unknown things. Those things don't exist to them because they haven't had the same things happen to them, and they don't teach about it except about how to explain it another way.

So they invent a way that sounds plausible to everyone else who also has never experienced those things, to convince everyone that those things don't actually happen. And that part is true, they don't happen to THEM so it's believable.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
I have to chuckle a lot when psychologists and psychiatrists come out with mental mumbo jumbo about how everyone who believes or knows they were abducted, actually weren't.

The school they went to doesn't know about what (to them) are unknown things. Those things don't exist to them because they haven't had the same things happen to them, and they don't teach about it except about how to explain it another way.

So they invent a way that sounds plausible to everyone else who also has never experienced those things, to convince everyone that those things don't actually happen. And that part is true, they don't happen to THEM so it's believable.

I agree.

Most psychologists are mierda.