Gaza Genocide Real or Propaganda

originally posted by: DashMtn
a reply to: KrustyKrab

IDF soldiers, themselves, have admitted they fired on the raver crowd from helicopters and at the kibbutzes from tanks. One of the survivors gave an interview saying IDF "undoubtedly" killed everyone. This has been known since the 11th of October. You might consider changing your "news" sources. Even Israeli media has been writing about this since October. The families of the people killed on the kibbutz by IDF filed a lawsuit against the Israeli government back in December.

Your just going use every unfounded lie available?

😂😂😂😂😂

Under International Law, which it has been made very clear the Western Empire (including Israel) only believes applies to brown people and Russia, an occupying power (in this case the "Israelli government") has no right to take any belligerent action against a territory it occupies. And, on the contrary, an occupied people have every right (and some would say legal obligation) under UN Art. 51 to free themselves from occupation by any means necessary, including armed resistance. So, Israel does not have the "right to defend itself" against people within its own borders whose territory it is illegally occupying. It also has no right to bomb Lebanon and Syria, which it has also been continuously doing. In 1917 Arthur Balfour arranged the sale of approx 4% of the Palestinian territory, which the UK was illegally occupying, to Lord Rothschild. Decades later, the UN agreed to recognize "Israel" if and only if they stuck to the borders the UN had set out for their state. They have never stuck to those borders nor to the one small chunk of land that Rothschild illegally bought. As such, "Israel" is not actually a country, in any legal sense. It's just an illegal occupation on stolen land.

a reply to: DashMtn

We'll need some time to let that sink in, if the ideological village struggles to differentiate between war and war-crimes already...

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: DashMtn
a reply to: KrustyKrab

IDF soldiers, themselves, have admitted they fired on the raver crowd from helicopters and at the kibbutzes from tanks. One of the survivors gave an interview saying IDF "undoubtedly" killed everyone. This has been known since the 11th of October. You might consider changing your "news" sources. Even Israeli media has been writing about this since October. The families of the people killed on the kibbutz by IDF filed a lawsuit against the Israeli government back in December.

Your just going use every unfounded lie available?

😂😂😂😂😂

New name, same propaganda.

People use "Zionist" like it's a dirty word.

I'm a Zionist.

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain
Now they're gradually starting to realize it was a disaster.

Take the border...Calling Trump racist and xenophobic for wanting to secure it and build a wall. They fought him tooth and nail for four years and even when he found some money to build a chunk of it, they screamed he took money from the military. With the massive problem we have today they have the audacity to blame Trump for not building the wall and securing the borders. It's like they can't remember last week...

The scary part is they believe it... geez

a reply to: DashMtn

So? How did Hamas end up with live Israeli hostages they took captive on Oct 7th?

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

I drank fluoride water in the 60s, only about 60% have it and I would think most do not even drink tap water anymore. There has been some natural fluoride that may have had ill effects due to the high percentages, but regulated fluoride is not the same thing.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy
And you don't think you're in prison.

There is a good chance that I really do not care one way or the other. I have said several times you need to get yourself in a position in life where neither side has much effect on you. The fact that you seem to be fired up on it all and spend a good amount of time on it makes me wonder who is in prison. It's like Trump how he lives rent-free in so many people's minds. I know people who put effort daily into their Trump hate, Jesus they are really in some prison...

originally posted by: DashMtn
a reply to: KrustyKrab

IDF soldiers, themselves, have admitted they fired on the raver crowd from helicopters and at the kibbutzes from tanks. One of the survivors gave an interview saying IDF "undoubtedly" killed everyone. This has been known since the 11th of October. You might consider changing your "news" sources. Even Israeli media has been writing about this since October. The families of the people killed on the kibbutz by IDF filed a lawsuit against the Israeli government back in December.

Sure buddy, and you think I should change news sources?🤣 That’s some juicy propaganda you got there. Easily proved to be a lie.

FACT CHECK: NO, ISRAEL DID NOT ADMIT TO KILLING ALL 364 ISRAELIS AT THE NOVA MUSIC FESTIVAL 8:57 AM 12/15/2023 Elias Atienza | Senior Reporter A post shared on Instagram claims that Israel admitted to bombing and killing all 364 Israelis at the Nova Music Festival.

Verdict: False The Israel Defense Forces (DF) did not admit to killing all 364 people at the festival. There is visual evidence showing Hamas killing and executing people at the festival. Fact Check: Social media users are sharing claims that Israel admitted to killing all 364 people killed at the Nova Music Festival. One Instagram account posted an image stating, “BREAKING NEWS: Israel officially admits the Israeli Army bombed at Nova Festival and killed 364 Israelis.” There is no evidence that the IDF admitted to killing all 364 people at the festival. If they had done so, media outlets would have covered it, yet none have. The IDF has not made any such admittance on its Telegram channel or X accounts.

checkyourfact.com...

Peters claimed that video footage "shows the IDF killing many people at October 7 concert in Israel." The original video was posted Oct. 9 by Israel Defense Forces, which said it showed the Israeli air force striking Hamas militants following Hamas’ Oct. 7 attacks in Israel. We did not find the video being shared online before the Israel Defense Forces’ Oct. 9 post, and a group that works to geolocate video footage analyzed the Israel Defense Forces’ video and said it was not filmed at the music festival site. We rate this claim False.

www.politifact.com...

…and leftist propaganda rag Times of Israel had to redact the whole story. 😂

a reply to: KrustyKrab

They are pro-hamas, anti-jew propogandists polluting social media.

Here?

They are failing.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: KrustyKrab

They are pro-hamas, anti-jew propogandists polluting social media.

Here?

They are failing.

In spectacular fashion none the less.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The Zionist project promised security and a future for the Jewish state. You might be a Zionist, but are you an upcoming pariah state with resigning top officials as well?

originally posted by: YourHighness
a reply to: DBCowboy

The Zionist project promised security and a future for the Jewish state. You might be a Zionist, but are you an upcoming pariah state with resigning top officials as well?

*shrugs*

I'll still defend Jews no matter what you say.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: cherokeetroy
And you don't think you're in prison.

There is a good chance that I really do not care one way or the other.

If you're being honest, then you also really shouldn't care what my opinion is one way or another.

The fact that you seem to be fired up on it all and spend a good amount of time on it makes me wonder who is in prison.

I spend a "good amount of time on it" because I'll make a passing comment about the system which triggers you so then you start a line of discussion in order to convince me I'm wrong.

a reply to: cherokeetroy

It's really sad, but y'all have lost the argument.

There is no real defense for hamas/palestinians.

Just get your guys to surrender. Return the hostages. Recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

I spend a "good amount of time on it" because I'll make a passing comment about the system which triggers you so then you start a line of discussion in order to convince me I'm wrong.

I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from. You seem very doom and gloom and basically blame it all on everyone who doesn't "get it" like you do. You kind of jump between it can't be fixed to its all-you guys' fault for not achieving some higher order of thought.

As to the OP I would say both, because both are a reality when we deal with the web. It's much how you think in terms of what you think reality is and what it actually is.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: cherokeetroy

It's really sad, but y'all have lost the argument.

There is no real defense for hamas/palestinians.

Just get your guys to surrender. Return the hostages. Recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

It's always 5o'clock somewhere, right?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
They are pro-hamas, anti-jew propogandists polluting social media.

Here?

They are failing.

The one that dumps 9 stars on everything cherokeetroy post must have gone to bed...lol

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: cherokeetroy

It's really sad, but y'all have lost the argument.

There is no real defense for hamas/palestinians.

Just get your guys to surrender. Return the hostages. Recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

It's always 5o'clock somewhere, right?

So you don't agree that they should release the hostages.

How odd.