Don Trump-Quixote

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Donald Trump vowed to issue an executive order targeting offshore wind development if he wins a second term as president, making his most explicit threat yet toward the growing industry. 

The presumptive Republican nominee derided offshore wind projects as lethal for birds and whales during his oceanfront rally Saturday in Wildwood, New Jersey, and committed to take action. 

Honestly, I like our worthless windmills, buy he's right about those seagulls in the offshore windfarms. Not as deadly as kids with Alka Seltzer, but close!

I'm not going to let Trump anger me any more. I am going to find the funnier things he does, unintentionally.

While this statement was intended to be a F*** You to environmentalists, really, it just reminds me of a parody TV commercial in GTA V.



My experience with these windmills is they close down the freeway at night so oversized vehicles and 30 highway patrol units can move them a single blade at a time.

As far a power goes, I say nuclear all the way. Just don't build them on top of faultlines and I think you'll be good. And if they do melt down, it's probably better to admit it and not try to hide the dishonor of improper radiation shielding.

The windmills are bad for the environment. They slaughter birds and screw with the whales killing them too. The onshore ones are a huge killer of bald eagles. I don't know why they are still allowed to be up and running.

a reply to: FlyersFan

They also have a very large "carbon footprint" to manufacture, transport, and maintain.

They are also not being recycled, though people are still getting paid lots of money to recycle them. They're just sitting out in the desert.

It seems almost everything pushed as 'green' just isn't.

Over 120 tons of coal to make a single windmill. Not enough toxic metals for EV batteries. Solar panels raising local temperatures and leaching toxic metals into the ground below. Not enough electricity for the EVs and the AIs. Windmills not lasting half as long as predicted. Battery farms needed to even attempt to use the windmills and solar that need even more toxic elements from mining. Nuclear fission that can kill if you injest a couple of atoms.

All the above, and much, much more, just another politically driven mess to make loads of money for a few.

originally posted by: Degradation33
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Donald Trump vowed to issue an executive order targeting offshore wind development if he wins a second term as president, making his most explicit threat yet toward the growing industry. 

The presumptive Republican nominee derided offshore wind projects as lethal for birds and whales during his oceanfront rally Saturday in Wildwood, New Jersey, and committed to take action. 

Honestly, I like our worthless windmills, buy he's right about those seagulls in the offshore windfarms. Not as deadly as kids with Alka Seltzer, but close!

I'm not going to let Trump anger me any more. I am going to find the funnier things he does, unintentionally.

While this statement was intended to be a F*** You to environmentalists, really, it just reminds me of a parody TV commercial in GTA V.

My experience with these windmills is they close down the freeway at night so oversized vehicles and 30 highway patrol units can move them a single blade at a time.

As far a power goes, I say nuclear all the way. Just don't build them on top of faultlines and I think you'll be good. And if they do melt down, it's probably better to admit it and not try to hide the dishonor of improper radiation shielding.

Nuclear energy to crack water into H2. Then when we burn H2 in Oxygen it creates H2O. So simple but TPTB are not allowing it so they can rake us over the coals for money for pet projects in places like Ukraine, and to line their own pockets.

The Whole of the green energy movement is a massive scam.

It is all about the money.
Toxic chemicals, toxic lubricants, low frequency hums, and so much more.

The whole thing is, People are getting rich off this.

When the actual things that will save our environment, will cost them too much money.
Cleaning up the plastics and toxins we already have, and stop using them.
Planting and using trees, glass and so many other, NATURAL items, including OIL.
We are being lied to, and so many just believe the narrative and don't question anything.

So yeah, Trump is correct. Sorry about your luck with that.

a reply to: FlyersFan

You bring to mind across the shore from us a couple miles and on the Canadian shore...are like a dozen white wind turbines.

Near there in Windsor...is Jack Miners Bird Sanctuary, timed release nightly of 1000's of bird...prob....like 5-10 miles North.

The flying swarm of birds would be decimated, as yes, they do fly Point Pelee south way on the shore of ERIE.

Only producing minimum energy....who over there....thought this was a good idea to put the turbines there?

a reply to: Degradation33

I always like driving by wind farms. They are super cool to see. Watched one have a fall onetime. I'm not sure how tall those things are but when one of the hands fell it was like it was in slow motion.
Anyways that is the extent of my posting for the day. Got a doctor appointment and possibly a surgery.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: FlyersFan

You bring to mind across the shore from us a couple miles and on the Canadian shore...are like a dozen white wind turbines.

Near there in Windsor...is Jack Miners Bird Sanctuary, timed release nightly of 1000's of bird...prob....like 5-10 miles North.

The flying swarm of birds would be decimated, as yes, they do fly Point Pelee south way on the shore of ERIE.

Only producing minimum energy....who over there....thought this was a good idea to put the turbines there?

They produce so little energy because they have governors on them to limit the rpm's. Because otherwise they would require even more lubricant. Everything that I have heard about them sounds so inefficient.

a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

The other bit about 'not lasting as long as expected' is that apparently the blades are particularly problematic as far as disposal goes. There is a huge amount of old blades to dispose of in Spain among other locations.

The real lesson IMO is there are no utopian solutions. Everything has its costs and problems, one way or the other.

Cheers

a reply to: Degradation33

Don Trump-Quixote

Tilting at windmills.


That sounds like Trump all over.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: FlyersFan

They also have a very large "carbon footprint" to manufacture, transport, and maintain.

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No they don't. The manufacture, transport, and maintenance of a wind turbine, per ton, is in line with any other heavy industry product (natural gas power station, pipeline, steel mill, etc.), and they all currently consume some fossil fuel. The difference with renewable sources like wind, solar, and hydro is that they consume no fossil fuel when they are actually providing the energy that shows up on the grid. Fossil fuel plants emit greenhouse gases every second they are operating. Most wind turbines pay back the amount of fossil fuels consumed in their production by savings during operation in less than a year of operation and most of them are designed to last 25 years. The amount of CO2 released into the atmosphere by a wind turbine over its lifetime is only 1 to 2 % of the amount released by a fossil fuel plant producing the same amount of energy.

Besides, why would you care about the carbon footprint of any power generating plant? Are you implicitly admitting that fossil fuel CO2 is causing climate change?

originally posted by: FlyersFan
The windmills are bad for the environment. They slaughter birds and screw with the whales killing them too. The onshore ones are a huge killer of bald eagles. I don't know why they are still allowed to be up and running.

I have a suggestion. Go spend a few minutes researching and see how many authenticated whale deaths you can find linked to windmills by some kind of evidence. I did, and I couldn't find any.

I suspect that the only reason you think that windmills kill whales is because the world famous wildlife expert, Donald Trump, told you to think that.

So birds are so blind that they don't see wind farms and fly to their death in them? Stupid birds...

You would think, with those wings, they could fly and avoid the wind turbines.....I'm calling cheeze!

a reply to: Boomer1947

Windmills take over 120 tons of coal to make each one. They use it in making the concrete and other materials. Many don't last 10 years and most not 20. They catch on fire and put off toxic fumes while burning. The generator head is lubricated with oil. They smash birds. They vibrate the air and ground disrupting wildlife. They are spread over a larger area of land then a conventional power generation station. They don't generate any where what they are designed for in their life span.

What part of not green do you not get?

a reply to: lilzazz

The birds are busy scanning the ground for prey. Flying into a buzz saw was never an issue pre-windmill.

Derp

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: FlyersFan
The windmills are bad for the environment. They slaughter birds and screw with the whales killing them too. The onshore ones are a huge killer of bald eagles. I don't know why they are still allowed to be up and running.

I have a suggestion. Go spend a few minutes researching and see how many authenticated whale deaths you can find linked to windmills by some kind of evidence. I did, and I couldn't find any.

I suspect that the only reason you think that windmills kill whales is because the world famous wildlife expert, Donald Trump, told you to think that.

I think the corelation has to do with whales washing up dead on beaches next to wind farms and not other beaches. But perhaps that's just a whale of a coicidence. But who really gives a rats ass about whales. They are largely pointless.
And bald eagles are just stupid birds. We can always just make the turkey Buzzard the nation's bird. Plenty of them around. Sadly, you won't be around to have the epiphany that you are largely ignorant and propagating lies, but others will. That will be a glorius day.

Let's just give up on a new technology because it's too hard to figure out and too expensive.

If that's the mentality you want to have when it comes to embracing new technology then go back to incandescent and flourescent light bulbs.

In 1962, LED's were too expensive and they couldn't figure out how to make them show blue light.

After many years of refining, LED'S are affordable and save you money and electricity.

Also look at TPTB.
Most of their money and power comes from old money like oil. That old money then elects corrupt politicians in office to continue business as usual.

Calling new technology a scam is like calling the gym a scam after going for only a week.

With that being said, wave technology would better suit offshore endeavors over wind technology.

a reply to: TinfoilTophat

to understand the "scam" tag it's gotten, you have to look at the efficency and ability for sustainability. Like LED's years ago, it was a great idea, but not ready for prime time, hence why it took over 40 years to be a thing. The idea of harnessing wind, solar, and tidal energies is great. And perhaps one day, that technology will be ready and can replace what we have now. But today, May 13, 2024, that technology is NOT ready to replace what we have, and any movement that includes removing what we currently have will end in epic failure due to not being ready yet. Therefore, it's a scam. Look at the money, where it's going and to whom it's going to. There is your scam.

originally posted by: Boomer1947
I suspect that the only reason you think that windmills kill whales is because the world famous wildlife expert, Donald Trump, told you to think that.

WRONG. I"m not a MAGA person.

I've heard it on the news on TV.
I've read it online in forums like this one.
Whales die. Probably get confused by the noise
from the windmills.