Biden Withholding Sensitive US Intelligence on Hamas Leaders From Israel

originally posted by: Threadbarer
All Israel has to do is explain how they plan on minimizing civilian casualties. We've been asking them for months and they haven't been able to provide anything. It's almost like they don't have any plans to minimize civilian casualties.

All Hamass has to do is release the hostages that they can't seem to prove are still alive.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

I doubt that Israel's "betrayal" is the same as America's "betrayal." An extremely dubious analogy.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Biden is absolutely protecting the leadership of Hamass in order to gain reelection.
PATHETIC.

Nope , he's protecting the civilians who were told to go to Rafah , you would prefer Israel go into Rafah to kill more civilians ?

Quid pro quo.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: CarlLaFong

Biden is absolutely protecting the leadership of Hamass in order to gain reelection.
PATHETIC.

Nope , he's protecting the civilians who were told to go to Rafah , you would prefer Israel go into Rafah to kill more civilians ?

Quid pro quo.

Biden doesn't give a # about anything but getting reelected.

originally posted by: gortex
Nope , he's protecting the civilians who were told to go to Rafah ,.

Nope, he's sucking up to Hamas so that he can get Michigan votes. And in supposedly 'protecting 'palestinian' civilians, he's letting Hamas get away with murder, literally ... and he's making it so that Hamas stays in tact and that Israeli civilians will be dying. So he's really protecting no one.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: CarlLaFong

Biden is absolutely protecting the leadership of Hamass in order to gain reelection.
PATHETIC.

Nope , he's protecting the civilians who were told to go to Rafah , you would prefer Israel go into Rafah to kill more civilians ?

Quid pro quo.

Biden doesn't give a # about anything but getting reelected.

That can be said for many if not all elected positions.
Key word elected.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: gortex
Nope , he's protecting the civilians who were told to go to Rafah ,.

Nope, he's sucking up to Hamas so that he can get Michigan votes. And in supposedly 'protecting 'palestinian' civilians, he's letting Hamas get away with murder, literally ... and he's making it so that Hamas stays in tact and that Israeli civilians will be dying. So he's really protecting no one.

So you must be privileged with the inner workings of the Biden administration then.
There are an astounding amount of information that is not shared for many reasons.

originally posted by: budzprime69
So you must be privileged with the inner workings of the Biden administration then..

It's COMMON SENSE. The guy is close to losing Michigan and the Arabs up there all said they won't vote for him if he helps Israel. Instantly he decides not to honor the ally agreement and he throws Israel under the bus. This is a DUH moment. He's pandering for votes. He's a stink'n politician. They all do things like that. He never cared about the people of Gaza all the decades he was a senator, nor did he care for the 8 years he was Vice President, nor did he care the first 3 years he was President. It was only after the Arabs in Michigan held him hostage with saying they wouldn't vote for him and he'd lose Michigan and the election that he suddenly 'cared'.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Nope, he's sucking up to Hamas so that he can get Michigan votes.

So he's sucking up to Hamas by offering Israel intelligence on the location of the leaders of Hamas ?

I think the problem here is Biden want's something in return for giving something but some people think Israel should get everything its own way because ... Israel !

In politics there is usually a price to pay , this is no different.

Israel should agree to Obiden's demands, get the intel and then do what'snecessary.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: FlyersFan

Nope, he's sucking up to Hamas so that he can get Michigan votes.

I think the problem here is Biden want's something in return for giving something

Like Biden withholding the billion $ in US aid to Ukraine in exchange for firing the prosecutor looking into his son's role in Burisma.

He's not alone in being against a ground offensive in Rafah.

So is the UK Govt.

Do you think the UK is supporting HAMAS?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
He's not alone in being against a ground offensive in Rafah.

So is the UK Govt.

Do you think the UK is supporting HAMAS?

Depends.
Is allowing four bloodthirsty battalions of Hamass soldiers and leadership to survive, so it can keep killing Jews...qualify as support for Hamass?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Do you think the UK is supporting HAMAS?

If they are not wanting Israel to finish the job and destroy Hamas, then yeah, they are supporting Hamas. ANY ending to this that sees Hamas in tact and the hostages not released is support of Hamas.

Saying that Israel can't go into Rafah because civilian palestinians might get hurt means that you are okay with civilian Israelis getting killed because that is what will happen if Hamas in Rafah isn't destroyed.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Like Biden withholding the billion $ in US aid to Ukraine in exchange for firing the prosecutor looking into his son's role in Burisma.

So that had nothing to do with combating corruption then.

The international effort to remove Shokin, who became prosecutor general in February
2015, began months before Biden stepped into the spotlight, said Mike Carpenter, who
served as a foreign policy adviser to Biden and a deputy assistant secretary of defense, with a
focus on Ukraine, Russia, Eurasia, the Balkans, and conventional arms control.
As European and U.S. officials pressed Ukraine to clean up Ukraine's corruption, they
focused on Shokin's leadership of the Prosecutor General's Office.
"Shokin played the role of protecting the vested interest in the Ukrainian system," said
Carpenter, who traveled with Biden to Ukraine in 2015. "He never went after any corrupt
individuals at all, never prosecuted any high-profile cases of corruption."
That demonstrated that Poroshenko's administration was not sincere
about tackling corruption and building strong, independent law enforcement agencies, said
Heather Conley, director of the Europe program at the Center for Strategic and International
Studies, a Washington-based foreign policy think tank.
In July 2015, Shokin's office became mired in scandal after authorities raided homes
belonging to two high-ranking prosecutors. Police seized millions of dollars worth of diamonds and cash, suggesting the pair had been taking bribes.
www.congress.gov...

I find it hard to believe the International community were involved it this just to help out Biden , Trump's lies hold no water.

a reply to: Threadbarer

How's this for a plan, no paratrooper flying in and indiscriminately murdering infants and old women? You want no collateral damage? Sorry, the ship has sailed.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: CarlLaFong

Like Biden withholding the billion $ in US aid to Ukraine in exchange for firing the prosecutor looking into his son's role in Burisma.

So that had nothing to do with combating corruption then.

Biden was protecting his corrupt kid and his corrupt crime family's dealings in Ukraine.
THAT'S the only corruption Joe was dealing with.

"!0% For The Big Guy"

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: CarlLaFong

Biden says alot of things that are not true. I'm sure someone has a long list of the lies. So why do you choose now to believe him? Is it because it fits your narrative?
Flip flop

a reply to: FlyersFan

No one said that they can’t do it.

The US is still giving them defensive aid and has only put large bombs on hold.

They’ve gotten more aid from the US than any other nation in history. We helped make them. We don’t owe them anything, we give, more than anyone else.

I don’t mind if we give to them, but it would be nice if they would be grateful. There’s no binding treaty saying we have to do this, we do this to help. So maybe just say thank you every once and a while.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Threadbarer
All Israel has to do is explain how they plan on minimizing civilian casualties. We've been asking them for months and they haven't been able to provide anything. It's almost like they don't have any plans to minimize civilian casualties.

All Hamass has to do is release the hostages that they can't seem to prove are still alive.

They won't because they can't.

And Israel doesn't need us to take care of this.

They're more than capable of doing it themselves.

And they should.

Yesterday.