Trump legal cases are falling apart at break neck speeds

a reply to: JadedGhost

or the prosecution can find a crime in that.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

I think they are helping him so much more than he could have on his own. Even with all his money.

All of the Trump cultists who already worship him will worship him even more than before. Probably the only thing that could make them more worshipful is if Trump managed to get himself nailed to a cross and somebody stuck a spear in his side.

Personally, I would pay to see that experiment tried.

However, I don't see how this attracts any new voters who weren't already in his camp.

a reply to: Boomer1947

" However, I don't see how this attracts any new voters who weren't already in his camp."




Ah , maybe you are Forgetting the Ones out there who Still Care about the Perilous Direction their Country is Heading Right Now and See with their Own Eyes What they Remember America Used to be and Desperately Want to Make it So Again....






My Country Tis of Thee......................Sweet Land of Liberty ..

a reply to: Boomer1947

I think that every day it becomes more obvious to even the most rabid and dense liberals that these trials are a sham, or "witch hunt" as the OMB says. Those people are not necessarily turning toward Trump as much as turning away from the trainwreck that the democrats have become.

Who knows, someday the light bulb will come on and even you might be one of them too.

a reply to: network dude

Oh... there will be heads on that choping block if people keep their cool. But at this point turmoil is the saver option for those that are at risk of ending up in front of it...

Well that’s obviously what they’re trying to prove to the jury. That Trump knowingly reimbursed Cohen for the hush money payment.

a reply to: JadedGhost
from today

Former president Trump did not personally direct a Trump Organization executive to set up reimbursement payments to former Trump attorney Michael Cohen, according to witness testimony Monday in the NY v. Trump case

The prosecutor-Bragg- hasn't laid a glove on Trump. Anyone paying attention can see they wanted to re-introduce the Access Hollywood tape and dirty Trump up but the thing is nobody cares. You, JadedGhost, are a shining example of why Trump cannot get a fair trial in a 90% democrat sesspool of jurists. That being said, Trump still should not have any worries. Trump's support has gone up and now is too Big Rig!

originally posted by: pianopraze
Putting trump in headlines constantly helps him.

He’s getting more free advertising than money can buy.

Living rent free also.

Just wish he was more of a Milei, and wish he would picked good people this time.

The dems and the MSM did this in 2016 with all of the fominizations...unfounded allegations..not lawsuits though..he was also up against a fraudulent lame duck named Hillary...just like Joe now.
They never seem to learn from their mistakes....this is the 2016 election being repeated almost exactly...but with another beneficial caveat, the demonization fake lawsuits and election interference is helping Trump even more escpially in the Latino and black communities.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Yeah Fox News have been doubling down trying to put a positive spin on todays proceedings… lol

He said that Mr. Weisselberg instructed him to send the money to Mr. Cohen. The checks that Mr. Cohen received throughout 2017 exceeded that amount because he was also paid a bonus and money to cover the taxes on the income. Nine of the 11 checks originated from Mr. Trump’s personal account, Mr. McConney testified, and were sent to the White House for Mr. Trump to sign.

Source

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Yeah Fox News have been doubling down trying to put a positive spin on todays proceedings… lol

He said that Mr. Weisselberg instructed him to send the money to Mr. Cohen. The checks that Mr. Cohen received throughout 2017 exceeded that amount because he was also paid a bonus and money to cover the taxes on the income. Nine of the 11 checks originated from Mr. Trump’s personal account, Mr. McConney testified, and were sent to the White House for Mr. Trump to sign.

Source

Just for the record, Fox News sucks just as bad as any. All of msm is in on obfuscating the real stories but this is simply a quoted testimony from court.
C'mon man..let me know when you find a crime.

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Yeah, but they conveniently left out the part where the payments came from Trumps personal bank account and that he (Trump) personally signed off on it. Also how Cohen was payed extra to cover income tax… which I’m pretty confident isn’t the norm when paying an attorney for “legal fees”.

Besides, the prosecution know exactly what the witnesses are going to say. Not like they just put anyone up there and cross there fingers hoping it’ll help there case. They’re putting the pieces together for the jury to analyze.

Look… Trump could still very well beat this case, only takes one juror to not be convinced. I still feel like they’re putting up a pretty strong case against him though, imo.

Yeah, but they conveniently left out the part where the payments came from Trumps personal bank account and that he (Trump) personally signed off on it

a reply to: JadedGhost

Yes, but the crime would have to be Trump intended the payments to be incorrectly filed as legal expenses. It is not illegal to pay hush money from your personal account. Do you see how "nickle & dime" this is. This is an embarrassment to all involved and will probably have major legal fallout for the judges and prosecutors. I am sure your a good guy it's just that this type of lawfare is unAmerican.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: network dude

Well that’s obviously what they’re trying to prove to the jury. That Trump knowingly reimbursed Cohen for the hush money payment.

Trumps lawyers are trying to claim Cohen went rogue and payed the hush money out of the kindness of his heart and that the money payed to Cohen afterwards was for his legal services… I don’t personally believe a word of that!

Guess we’ll just have to wait and see if the jury are gullible enough to believe it.

Everybody testified that Cohen went rogue.
Cohen admitted he went rogue and paid her himself thinking he would get a cabinet position in the Trump administration.
That’s what the testimony has shown so far.
In addition to all the other lying extortionists that came out of the woodwork, including Stormy’s own slimy lawyer.
Not Avenatti, the other greaseball lawyer she hired.
There’s zero precedent of a state DA going after an individual for a federal election crime.
The Federal Election Commission passed on this case because there is no case and it’s a waste of taxpayers money.
It’s malicious selective political prosecution and it is itself election interference.
The state can’t, and hasn’t, proven Trump did any of this because of the election.
It’s a side show with extra buttery popcorn.

a reply to: Vermilion

But if Cohen did go rogue and pay Stormy himself, then why did Trump reimburse him and then hide the payments as “legal fees”?

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: Vermilion

But if Cohen did go rogue and pay Stormy himself, then why did Trump reimburse him and then hide the payments as “legal fees”?

Are you a Licensed Lawyer ? If not , that would be Considered Hearsay .

When my accountant does my filing, he gives me a bill. I don't ask what it is for.

I just pay it.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: Vermilion

But if Cohen did go rogue and pay Stormy himself, then why did Trump reimburse him and then hide the payments as “legal fees”?

Was Cohen his lawyer at the time?

Yes, so “legal fees” are perfectly legal.

a reply to: underpass61

If you don't trust your legal system you've lost already.

Is there corruption in the legal system and how often does it tie all the way to the white house? I'd say more often than not. Pretty sure there is a way of prosecuting corrupt judges, might be harder if you can't do it because your political opponent is involved.

So your question is kind of redundant, as they are the same and if not, it's probably 50/50 on where the corruption lies...

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: network dude

I don’t even think Trump himself thinks he’ll win the current hush money trial, that’s why he’s breaking the gag order to attack everyone associated with the case, jury, witnesses, even the judges family. It’s all to sow the seed of doubt about it being an illegitimate case. He’s reportedly even demanding he’s lawyers go harder and attack everyone associated with the case, which no good lawyer would advise, since it’s a bad look and can totally turn the jury against him.

Anyway, the evidence put against Trump so far seems pretty damning to me… Micheal Cohen, Stormy and that other lady he apparently paid off haven’t even testified yet.

Please explain something to me: What LAW has Trump broken? So far, this seems to be nothing more than an attempt to re-hash the Stormy Daniels scandal, with nobody so far even suggesting anything that any normal person would consider illegal. I think that any fair and unbiased judge would issue a directed verdict of not guilty, for failure to establish the existence of a crime.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: JadedGhost
NY is trying to prosecute it as a felony despite having no standing to do so.

Your correct, falsifying business records in NY is usually a misdemeanor. Unless you broke a federal law in the process, in which case it becomes a felony.

Hence why Trumps charged with a felony.

Problem: State courts have no authority to prosecute a federal crime. Which is why he is being charged with concealing a mysterious mumble mumble offense that he's never actually been charged with.

And that is a glaringly obvious violation of Due Process of Law.

originally posted by: BoredAtWork1976

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: network dude

I don’t even think Trump himself thinks he’ll win the current hush money trial, that’s why he’s breaking the gag order to attack everyone associated with the case, jury, witnesses, even the judges family. It’s all to sow the seed of doubt about it being an illegitimate case. He’s reportedly even demanding he’s lawyers go harder and attack everyone associated with the case, which no good lawyer would advise, since it’s a bad look and can totally turn the jury against him.

Anyway, the evidence put against Trump so far seems pretty damning to me… Micheal Cohen, Stormy and that other lady he apparently paid off haven’t even testified yet.

Please explain something to me: What LAW has Trump broken? So far, this seems to be nothing more than an attempt to re-hash the Stormy Daniels scandal, with nobody so far even suggesting anything that any normal person would consider illegal. I think that any fair and unbiased judge would issue a directed verdict of not guilty, for failure to establish the existence of a crime.

Truth but remember we are not dealing with a fair and unbiased judge, we are dealing with a deranged Dem hack who, along with his family, is neck deep in multiple corrupt Dem con artist’s back pockets.

Who pays him and who pays his family? Follow the money.