Thousands of Anti-Semitic People Protest Israel's government in Tel Aviv

"The People of Israel are not the government of Israel"
The Sage words of one of the thousands of Anti-Semitic protesters who are once again protesting against their Far Right Zionist government and its criminal leader in Tel Aviv , they want an end to the killing of innocent Palestinians and a negotiated return of the remaining hostages from the Oct 7th attack which as we've learned over the past few months from certain members here is Anti-Semitic .... how dare they !

Protesters are demanding the government reach a deal to bring the hostages back from Gaza, for new elections and the resignation of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The demonstration took place as a delegation of the Palestinian militant group Hamas was in Cairo for cease-fire talks with Israel.

I stand with the "Anti-Semitic" people of Israel , down with "Bibi Escobar" and his henchmen.

"The people of Israel are hostages to the Right Wing government the people of Gaza are hostages to Hamas"

I wish the good people of Israel luck regaining their country from the criminals trying to destroy it.

a reply to: gortex

I have serious doubts that those hostages are still alive.

Hamas tried to use them to stop Israel from a counter attack, but Israel has been bombing the hell out of them anyway. If the hostages didn't work as a deterrent, they had no value so.....

a reply to: DAVID64

There are probably a few still alive but Israel's implementation of their "Hannibal Directive" pretty much sealed many of their fates , just like those poor Israelis killed by the IDF on Oct 7th.

When the lives of your own citizens came second to political motivation you know there's a problem.

originally posted by: gortex
Israel's implementation of their "Hannibal Directive" pretty much sealed many of their fates , just like those poor Israelis killed by the IDF on Oct 7th.
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No, Israel did not kill any Israelis on Oct 7. There is ZERO proof of that and all the propaganda that has been posted here claiming that has been debunked. And there is ZERO evidence that any 'Hannibal Directive' was implemented either. That old Hannibal Directive supposedly only applied to soldiers not letting other soldiers be taken captive by terrorists and it supposedly was 'cancelled' in 2016.

As to the protests to 'bring back the hostages'. Israel and the USA say that most of them are probably dead. The ones that came back have said that they were beaten, and starved, and tortured, and raped, and psychologically abused, and not given medication that was needed etc etc etc ... all at the hands of Jew hating Muslim terrorists who were just itching to kill them just like they mass murdered 1200 people on Oct 7. So of course most, if not all, of the remaining hostages are dead. It's to be expected with Hamas and the 'palestinians'. That's their mentality.

a reply to: FlyersFan

No, Israel did not kill any Israelis on Oct 7.

That is not true it's merely a belief held by and puppeted by you , there is evidence provided by witnesses the IDF did kill Israelis both from the air and on the ground on Oct 7th.

originally posted by: gortex
there is evidence provided by witnesses the IDF did kill Israelis both from the air and on the ground on Oct 7th.

No there's not. Don't bother posting the propaganda videos.
We've all seen them. And they've all been debunked many times already.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: gortex
Israel's implementation of their "Hannibal Directive" pretty much sealed many of their fates , just like those poor Israelis killed by the IDF on Oct 7th.
.

No, Israel did not kill any Israelis on Oct 7. There is ZERO proof of that and all the propaganda that has been posted here claiming that has been debunked. And there is ZERO evidence that any 'Hannibal Directive' was implemented either. That old Hannibal Directive supposedly only applied to soldiers not letting other soldiers be taken captive by terrorists and it supposedly was 'cancelled' in 2016.

As to the protests to 'bring back the hostages'. Israel and the USA say that most of them are probably dead. The ones that came back have said that they were beaten, and starved, and tortured, and raped, and psychologically abused, and not given medication that was needed etc etc etc ... all at the hands of Jew hating Muslim terrorists who were just itching to kill them just like they mass murdered 1200 people on Oct 7. So of course most, if not all, of the remaining hostages are dead. It's to be expected with Hamas and the 'palestinians'. That's their mentality.

We have heard you.
It's your opinion but others have different opinions. You can't be absolutely sure about a matter which is very debatable unless you know something from inside? Do you?

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: gortex

I have serious doubts that those hostages are still alive.

Hamas tried to use them to stop Israel from a counter attack, but Israel has been bombing the hell out of them anyway. If the hostages didn't work as a deterrent, they had no value so.....

Many have died and that's why this war must stop straight away. There is no need for further deaths but Netanyahu believes he will win the war and hailed a national hero. Before the ICC and the Hague starts chasing the regime.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: gortex

I have serious doubts that those hostages are still alive.

Hamas tried to use them to stop Israel from a counter attack, but Israel has been bombing the hell out of them anyway. If the hostages didn't work as a deterrent, they had no value so.....

I would imagine the young women are alive. From the few let go, they are badly sexually abused. At this point Hamas realizes the public image of daily repeated sexual abuse of hostages. So these women are probably alive, but will never be released alive.

The children may also have suffered abuse so bad from what released hostages have said they may be permanently psychotic. Again, released hostages have told horrific eye witness accounts of abuse. So Hamas may keep them around as playthings to abuse but they will never be released alive.

You can be certain the Americans they have as hostages have seen if not experienced this horrific abuse of hostages. That is why Hamas constantly refuses the offer of Israel to stop attacking them if they release the hostages. The testimony of the hostages could turn the world against them - so the hostages will never be released alive.

If the hostages are released alive, which I seriously doubt,
I expect the students that are behaving exactly like
the National Socialists in their protests,
and those on ATS who support these
students behaving in their rallies
exactly like National Socialist
and the KKK (degrading an entire race of people)
will say all the hostages are lying and Hamas are saints.

Elite students at liberal institutions are so brainwashed
they will not believe the hostages,

even if the children held hostage come back psychotic with tics and withdrawn into tiny balls of psychological pain.

There is no hope for the hostages. Hamas when they start this showed what monsters they are. Just like their last intifada showed what monsters they are. They totally lost my sympathy when they abused the hostages.

If Hamas had treated the hostages well there may have been more international sympathy.

But after the way Hamas began the war,
the way they have abused the hostages,
behaving like demon possessed men salivating over sex slaves,
and enjoying torturing even children in their "care",
they totally lost any sympathy I may have given their cause.

Hamas has proved themselves to be psychotic madmen
with their behavior toward the hostages and the way they began this war.

Why American students are now chanting "from the river to the sea", a Hamas call for genocide of the Jews - and calling for "infitada" where the last one Hamas killed over 1000 Jews in bombings and killings - has me feeling hopeless for the future of the US when it comes to liberals, as all these students are liberals at liberal institutions where they have obviously been taught to hate Jewish people. Hamas and the Middle Eastern nations have done a great job infiltrating and brainwashing even Democrat Party faculty at the most elite institutions in the US who regularly put out Congressmen, Senators, and Presidents of the US.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: DAVID64

There are probably a few still alive but Israel's implementation of their "Hannibal Directive" pretty much sealed many of their fates , just like those poor Israelis killed by the IDF on Oct 7th.

When the lives of your own citizens came second to political motivation you know there's a problem.

You're saying it's Israel's fault that the tortured, gang-raped, mentally and physically abused hostages taken to Gaza by Hamas are dead?

You might want to rethink that.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: FlyersFan

No, Israel did not kill any Israelis on Oct 7.

That is not true it's merely a belief held by and puppeted by you , there is evidence provided by witnesses the IDF did kill Israelis both from the air and on the ground on Oct 7th.

It’s not too much of a surprise.

While Hamas ultimately started this conflict, Israel made a lot of errors that led to the amount of damage it caused.

For one, they helped create Hamas to divide Gaza and the West Bank politically. Then they started rotating troops from the Gaza border to the West Bank settlements because of the increase in activity there.

By the time they were able to respond, it would come as no surprise that it was more panicked than calculated in fashion.

Obviously that’s not to say it was malicious or purposeful if there was collateral damage. But after so many bad decisions, it shouldn’t be so outlandish to see the fumbled something else.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

You're saying it's Israel's fault that the tortured, gang-raped, mentally and physically abused hostages taken to Gaza by Hamas are dead?

Can't see how you come to that conclusion from what I wrote , what I said was some of the Israelis who were taken hostage were killed by their own military from the air and ground , those I apportion blame for that to are those who implemented the "Hannibal Directive" which basically says a dead hostage is better than a live hostage , the lack of concern for Human life either side of the divide is obvious.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: CarlLaFong

You're saying it's Israel's fault that the tortured, gang-raped, mentally and physically abused hostages taken to Gaza by Hamas are dead?

those I apportion blame for that to are those who implemented the "Hannibal Directive" which basically says a dead hostage is better than a live hostage

Do you apportion any blame at all to Hamas, who deliberately sets up military headquarters and weapons dumps under/in hospitals, schools and other civilian areas...where hostages have been taken?

You dont speak for us all FF.

Speak for yourself, your not a spokesperson for anybody else.

If peeps agree with you they can star your posts as you post them.

a reply to: FlyersFan

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Do you apportion any blame at all to Hamas

I believe I already did. " the lack of concern for Human life either side of the divide is obvious."

who deliberately sets up military headquarters and weapons dumps under/in hospitals, schools and other civilian areas

Given the amount of IDF surveillance in Gaza I doubt it would be practical to have a HQ and barracks above ground , do you ?

where hostages have been taken?

Ditto.

Hamas is deliberately and cowardly using Israeli/international hostages and Palestinian civilians as human shields.
Hamas are terrorists.
Hamas is 100% responsible for any of their deaths.

Placing blame for their deaths on anyone else but Hamas...makes one a Hamas/terrorist sympathizer.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
Hamas is deliberately and cowardly using Israeli/international hostages and Palestinian civilians as human shields.
Hamas are terrorists.
Hamas is 100% responsible for any of their deaths.

Placing blame for their deaths on anyone else but Hamas...makes one a Hamas/terrorist sympathizer.

Takes two to tango. It is possible to apportion blame in appropriate proportions without necessarily supporting or sympathising with either party.

Reality is rarely black and white.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Placing blame for their deaths on anyone else but Hamas...makes one a Hamas/terrorist sympathizer.

Hamas started this conflict. But people can still be critical of Israel’s conduct.

After 9/11, we had a lot of conversations about how the US conducted its war in Afghanistan. That’s not to take away from the agency Bin Laden, and the sympathetic Taliban had leading up to those events. It’s to say we hold ourselves to a higher standard than terrorists do.

Simply having a specific take on what should happen with civilians doesn’t mean you’re taking the side of a state actor or an equivalent entity.

I don’t even maintain that we should cut off support for Israel. I just can’t for the life of me understand how having critical views somehow makes someone a terrorist supporter or antisemitic.

It’s a tired argument we see in politics regularly. Someone has a view you don’t like? Call them racist, Nazi, antisemitic, terrorist.

We live in a world of very diverse views, not all are created out of hate.

originally posted by: Dalamax

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
Hamas is deliberately and cowardly using Israeli/international hostages and Palestinian civilians as human shields.
Hamas are terrorists.
Hamas is 100% responsible for any of their deaths.

Placing blame for their deaths on anyone else but Hamas...makes one a Hamas/terrorist sympathizer.

Takes two to tango. It is possible to apportion blame in appropriate proportions without necessarily supporting or sympathising with either party.

Reality is rarely black and white.

THIS is black and white.
Intentionally and cowardly taking hostages and putting them in harms way...makes the hostage taker 100% responsible for their lives and/or deaths.

a reply to: gortex

So tell us EXACTLY why you think Israel is committing genocide. I want to hear specifics where, when, how and why, not the generalized bs you’ve been fed through the media. Because you like many that keep parroting the same genocide rhetoric seem to be conflating a lot of issues that don’t stand on their own merit.