Russian intelligence officer: explosions at defense factories in the USA and Wales may be sabotage

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Kurokage

Listen, you are pushing a certain Dmitry into dozens of your posts. Who it is, where it comes from, what it is - no one knows.
Calm down already))))

Did I hit a ballet dancing nerve here? I think you need to calm down and let Putin be Putin and love whoever he wants to, you surely know who he his RT! I imagine you're a big fan.

I gave you a bunch of links in this thread.

You gave one link to a Russian government controlled wesite in your opening post. We're 5 pages in and you still have added anything else about you sabotage theory.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Kurokage

And I heard that aliens have infiltrated Biden and are now controlling him in the interests of the planet Nibiru)))))

Well, that is the quality of your posts so I don't see anything different.

Are you going to list any evidence to support your hypothesis?

a reply to: FlyersFan

Again. Just learn the principles and methods of competitive intelligence. This is not the British “Highly Likely”, it works.
And then ask your questions)))))

originally posted by: Kurokage
You gave one link to a Russian goverment controlled wesite in your opening post.

... and that link had no evidence. Just a Russian on the other side of the planet and his own wishful thinking.

I asked for EVIDENCE.

Safety reports for the sites.
Reports on fire damage and how they started.
Interviews with workers on the scene.
Statement from the "saboteur' about why he did what he did.

THAT is evidence.
Not some Russian spouting fantasies.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Just learn the principles and methods of competitive intelligence.

No. You learn how to answer a straight up question with a straight up answer.
You are pushing the 'sabotage' story ... so PROVE IT.
Otherwise, just admit it's Russian propaganda at this point.


Straight up questions deserve straight up answers -

Where is the evidence?

Where are the interviews with workers?

Where are the forensic reports on the shell that exploded?

Where are the fire reports on how the fires started?

Where is the evidence that this wasn't just a foundry fire, which happen from time to time?

Where are the plant safety reports for both places?

Where is the proof that this was more than just a shell exploding in a factory that makes them, which they do from time to time.

Where is the statement from the alleged saboteur stating they did it and their motive for doing so?

a reply to: FlyersFan

What about the photo posted in this thread of the alleged explosion in Chelyabinsk?
Did I receive similar information?

originally posted by: RussianTroll
What about the photo posted in this thread of the alleged explosion in Chelyabinsk?
Did I receive similar information?

I don't know anything about a 'Chelyabinsk' and am not discussing whatever that is. I'm discussing the topic of this thread ... YOUR POST by a Russian guy on the other side of the planet who says the two incidents are sabotage. You back that statement. So I"m asking for EVIDENCE that shows sabotage.

Safety reports for the sites.
Reports on fire damage and how they started.
Interviews with workers on the scene.
Statement from the "saboteur' about why he did what he did.

The local officials don't even have those things yet. So how can a nobody on the other side of the planet claim to know something that even the local officials, who have access to all the information, don't even know.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: FlyersFan

What about the photo posted in this thread of the alleged explosion in Chelyabinsk?
Did I receive similar information?

This is your thread and it was you that posted the opening post with little to no evidence for your claims, people are responding to your opening post, so why would they need to back up any claims when the opening post proves nothing of your claims here?

a reply to: Kurokage

I understand. English troll leaked once again))))

a reply to: FlyersFan

Typical Israeli position. “I don’t know anything about the obvious (although everything is on the surface), but answer my questions.”
This position no longer works in civilized countries))) Answer for your own, and only then ask others. This is fair and honest!

a reply to: RussianTroll

www.telegraph.co.uk...

An unexplained explosion has rocked a Russian tank factory producing engines and artillery for the war in Ukraine...

www.pravda.com.ua...

Baza, a Russian Telegram channel, reported that witnesses said they heard an explosion before the fire broke out and saw a large column of fire rise above the plant.

en.defence-ua.com...

November 26 evening, various media reported explosions on the territory of russian industrial enterprises Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant–Uraltrac and Smolensk Aviation Plant.

www.newsweek.com...

See RT, its not that difficult to post actual real news instead of propaganda!!

a reply to: Kurokage

Funny))) You are against “propaganda” and provide links to world-recognized propaganda sites))))

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: FlyersFan

Typical Israeli position.

You have a sick obsession with Jews and Israel, trying to sneak them into every conversation, and in a negative way.

“I don’t know anything about the obvious (although everything is on the surface),

Newsflash ... I know nothing about any 'Chelyabinsk' ... whatever it is. This thread is not about a thing called "'Chelyabinsk'. I have never heard of it. Stop deflecting.

Address the on topic question.
WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE OF SABATOGE???

Safety reports for the sites.
Reports on fire damage and how they started.
Forensics on the munitions.
Interviews with workers on the scene.
Statement from the "saboteur' about why he did what he did.

You posted an article about somebody in Russia claiming these two incidents were sabotage. You back them up and agree with it. So I'm asking you for the evidence to support the claim. Produce it or admit that there is none and the story is just Russian propaganda.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Kurokage

Funny))) You are against “propaganda” and provide links to world-recognized propaganda sites))))

Thats hilarious coming from the guy who can only post Russian sponsered media links!! That comedy routine would've slayed them in a big concert hall if ISIS hadn't done it already....

There were 30 more sites for this news to choose from about Russian Tank factories exploding, you can take your pick. How many links can you post for your bat-sh*t theory of sabotage?

a reply to: RussianTroll

I have never heard of "Chelyabinsk". I googled to see what it is. The links came up about a freak'n METEOR. I do not want to discuss a meteor. I"m asking for proof of your statement that it was sabotage. That's ON TOPIC.

Safety reports for the sites.
Reports on fire damage and how they started.
Interviews with workers on the scene.
Information on the munitions being made.
Statement from the "saboteur' about why he did what he did.

Give the information or admit that you are just pushing baseless theories and propaganda.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I've found RT's evidence for..........



These guys said it so it must be true! Who needs real evidence to prove or support something any way.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Don't put your complexes on me. The entire ATS knows that you are a fanatical supporter of Israel and a resident of the United States, although I doubt the latter. You are on the PBX and responding to my posts when it is around 1:00 - 2:00 am in the US Eastern Time, which is nonsense. Residents of America get in touch much later.))))))

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: FlyersFan

Don't put your complexes on me. The entire ATS knows that you are a fanatical supporter of Israel and a resident of the United States, although I doubt the latter. You are on the PBX and responding to my posts when it is around 1:00 - 2:00 am in the US Eastern Time, which is nonsense. Residents of America get in touch much later.))))))

Your poor attempts at impersonating Sherlock Holmes and fixation on FlyersFan wearabouts is a bit worrying. It's a shame your can't investigate the stories you post this much??

The amount of people you accuse of not being who they are really shows some first class paranoia RT!

originally posted by: RussianTroll
You are on the PBX and responding to my posts when it is around 1:00 - 2:00 am in the US Eastern Time, which is nonsense.

I couldn't sleep last night so I got on.
It's the first time I've been on at that time in a long time.
I couldn't sleep. I"m tired as hell having been up since midnight.
My IP Address, which the moderators can read, says Wilmington DE.

SO WHAT? STOP DEFLECTING.


Address the on topic question.
WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE OF SABATOGE???

Safety reports for the sites.
Reports on fire damage and how they started.
Forensics on the munitions.
Interviews with workers on the scene.
Statement from the "saboteur' about why he did what he did.

You posted an article about somebody in Russia claiming these two incidents were sabotage. You back them up and agree with it. So I'm asking you for the evidence to support the claim. Produce it or admit that there is none and the story is just Russian propaganda.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Do you have insomnia every night?
I will recommend you an excellent drug that is not addictive - Donormil.
Tested on myself, use the advice)))

Costs about 4 dollars in Russia.