Tesla cutting 14,000 jobs

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Cvastar

Tires every 6000 miles?

Not typically for EVs, however their added weight because of the battery and the softer tires they use to make the ride better generates a lot of what the industry calls "tire and road-wear particles".

Basically a bunch of hydrocarbons released into the atmosphere that have a lot of long-term health effects for humans and fish, in particular.

Which translates to 20-25k miles on your tires before they need replaced as opposed to ICE vehicles.

And thier brakes wear a lot quicker as well.

A Tesla releases more hydrocarbon particulates than an ICE vehicle does, for instance.

Which they cannot capture, as opposed to ICE vehicles using a catalytic converter.

But we are not supposed to talk about that.

a reply to: Lumenari

Did not know that..✌️
Just another topic we’re not supposed to talk about..

A good number of top companies operate on laying off the bottom 10%, and people no longer needed. Harsh reality, but Amazon and GE have been doing it for a long time. If you think about it, we hire people on an hour look and you really do not know what you are going to get until months later, so that allows them legally to weed out who they want since it is so hard to outright fire people today.

The bad side is it becomes a dog eat dog world and teams will stack "undesirables" on their team to fill the 10%, kind of like the ensign in Star Trek when the landing party beams down.

Quick history of Tesla layoffs:

• 2017: 2% of headcount
• 2018: 9% of headcount
• 2019: 7% of headcount
• 2022: 10% of salaried workers (3% of global headcount)
• 2024: ~10% of headcount

Tesla's global employee count expanded from 38,000 in early 2018 to over 140,000 in early 2024. Laying off ~10% of your workforce is not a small number, but Tesla's last major round of layoffs was a while ago. Many companies were doing large job cuts between late 2022 to late 2023, but Tesla didn't.

For a company of its size, periodic adjustments to the workforce are normal, particularly during challenging economic periods and or periods of growth.

It seems Elon wants to go all-in on AI/autonomy/robotics. To set Tesla up well for its next phase of growth, he might have felt some restructuring and reorganization was needed.
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a reply to: WeMustCare

True, I just drove between San Antonio and Houston, not one EV. The charging stations build out never happened.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Now they're saying 7K to 10K......I don't make this stuff up; just report what I read.

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In a sense, I stand corrected; but it really depends on how someone drives the vehicle.

a reply to: Cvastar

I wasn't questioning the validity of your statement, I just wondered where it came from.👍

I never considered faster tire wear because of the extra weight of EVs. Makes sense really.

a reply to: Vermilion

I don't think full self driving will be here any time soon.
Even after they fix all of the multitude of problems it will still have to be cleared by government regulations..
A decade at best and that's being optimistic.

originally posted by: Cvastar
a reply to: WeMustCare

True, I just drove between San Antonio and Houston, not one EV. The charging stations build out never happened.

There are 6 Tesla chargers in between San Antonio and Houston.
Sometimes they have a spot or two for the knockoff EV’s.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Vermilion

I don't think full self driving will be here any time soon.
Even after they fix all of the multitude of problems it will still have to be cleared by government regulations..
A decade at best and that's being optimistic.

I don’t trust it anyway.
I enjoy driving myself just fine.
It’s scary when you see somebody behind the wheel sleeping or reading a book.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Vermilion

I don't think full self driving will be here any time soon.
Even after they fix all of the multitude of problems it will still have to be cleared by government regulations..
A decade at best and that's being optimistic.

I'm not a fan of this push for FSD. I think the big issue with FSD is the roads are not consistent in regards to their upkeep, not too mention signage, construction, etc. Computers are just not adept at analyzing every little scenario that could go wrong when driving.

They work fine in some instances, but I'd never completely turn over my car to a computer. My ride has Adapative Cruise Control which I like as it can speed up and slow down in traffic, but I still don't completely trust it. Just allows me to rest my foot without having to constantly modulate throttle for slower traffic on long highway drives.

a reply to: Vermilion

Interesting.......so...are there signs? If so, I didn't see them.

originally posted by: Cvastar
a reply to: Vermilion

Interesting.......so...are there signs? If so, I didn't see them.

I’m not sure about the signage.
The navigation doesn’t fail to get there.
I’m guessing non Tesla EV’s all have navigation?
It’s better to use the navigation anyway because the car will preheat the battery when it knows you’re heading to charge.
Preheating speeds up charging time/efficiency.
I’m guessing the other EV company chargers are using the existing Tesla infrastructure as it’s more robust and well placed around the world.

Why do we need AI to drive our cars? This deserves to be in the RATS forum, but I am adding it here.

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Honestly dont know how or why we jumped from hybrids to EV's.

To me at least (and ive hardly looked so giant grain of salt) a Hybrid at this stage with this battery tech is head and shoulders above a pure EV.

*shrugs* but what do I know... Ill keep my inline 6 Wrangler, and still planning on getting a 10 ish year old F250 diesel instead of either.