Biden Banning Menthol Cigarettes - Good Health Move or Government Overreach?

a reply to: TzarChasm

Or it's a anime convention.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
You know who else banned cigarrettes?

We all the the guy.

I'm gonna name drop.

You guessed it correctly.

HITLER!

Dun. Dun. Duuuuun.

Not true.


en.m.wikipedia.org...

Close, but no cigar.

a reply to: 5thHead

As part of the focus on the Purity Program, the people were advised to refrain from tobbaco.

There were exceptions to the rule, as there always will be.

Speaking as one who enjoys luxury tobacco, and who thinks Churchhill was a rockin' dude, give me some freakin' credit here.

I'm not an idiot.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

They didn't ban smoking. You said they did. They didn't.

That's all.

a reply to: 5thHead

You're being dense and aruging over trivialities.

Take a chill pill, I'm not your enemy here.

It was a joke.

Never seen the appeal of menthol, stings your lungs.

Some kids where I used to hang out were spreading a rumor that NASA Scientists wouldn't let you go to Space if you had smoked Menthols, something about the mint crystals having a back effect in your lungs to to the stresses placed on the body during transition into 0G.

Never felt the need to check our their claims, as I'm a committed Terrestrial.

Biden Banning Menthol Cigarettes - Good Health Move or Government Overreach?

Here's a thought...grow your own and dose it with menthol, strawberry, pig meat, or cinnamon flavoring, your choice.

You can get tobacco seeds on line just like anything else. I grow a very nice LOUISIANA PERIQUE tobacco in my garden along with the tomatoes, asparagus, fava beans and other herbs.

btw....I don't recommend smoking although I do enjoy a spicy Girlscout cookies vape from time to time.

Strike a blow against corporate tyranny and grow your own....

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
... a rumor that NASA Scientists wouldn't let you go to Space if you had smoked Menthols, something about the mint crystals having a back effect in your lungs to to the stresses placed on the body during transition into 0G..

I've never heard that so I googled. It's been discussed on a few forums. Everyone says it's a myth, an urban legend. But there is nothing official from NASA saying anything about menthol cigarettes. I found official stuff about some astronauts having been smokers and not able to smoke in space ... but nothing on the menthol myth/legend/rumor.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Ok, thanks for the heads up.

The Kids are usually the Urban Legend types.

I figured as much.

The Kids Are Alright.

People, vote with your garden or a pot.

GROW YOUR OWN TOBACCO WITHOUT THE GENETICALLY MODIFIED CONTENTS.

Saves me 100 euros per month and it's grown with LOVE.

The plants are easy to grow once started and the flowers are beautiful.

One plant per month is all that is needed.

Stop paying the tax, the big nicotine companies, the big pharma and the profiteers.

Please!

a reply to: nerbot

Tried that as I love growing big nicotianas.

Unfortunately not the smoking variety.

Have some proper seeds, but how do you dry the leaves?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: nerbot

Tried that as I love growing big nicotianas.

Unfortunately not the smoking variety.

Have some proper seeds, but how do you dry the leaves?

I grow a few verities, Perique and a Burley and just hang up the leaves in a dark, warm place for a couple of weeks. Some use a more complete method.

www.youtube.com...

There is a wild tobacco that grows wild along the ditches and river banks; It's to strong and needs to be mixed with a nice burley or sweet indica to take off the rough edges.

calscape.org...()

I think "they" have been trying to ban Menthol cigarettes since I was in high school.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
Have some proper seeds, but how do you dry the leaves?

I start by laying them flat around my little conservatory to sun dry a little for a couple of days. After a few days I hang them in a dark garage and workshop (lots of leaves) until the leaves go brown and most of the moisture has evaporated. Takes a while. After they feel pretty dry I put them in a large cardboard box and turn the whole lot every time I pass by to ensure even dryness and mo mould from small pockets of moisture that I may have missed.

To shred, I hold a leaf at the tip by the stalk, strip one side off, then the other, leaving just the stalk. Then I shred the leaves three times which gives a nice texture ready to roll. I bought a cheap shredder that works like a pencil sharpener on Ebay and have sessions while watching movies online.

Seperating lower and higher leaves can give different smokes and I think it's why some plants are good for both cigarettes and cigars. I mix the whole lot because I'm not fussy.

Maybe spraying lightly with a flavoured mist would provide enhanced flavours like Mint, Cherry, Coffee etc and I would suggest doing this after the leaves are dried completely, then dry one more time.

There's plenty of advice online but one thing is for sure.....ONLY USE "HEIRLOOM" SEEDS as they are not genetically modified by the tobacco companies to fuel their pharmaceutical companies treating the nasties they instill. FACT.

Tobacco seeds are cheap, and once you have a season grown you will have millions of seeds enough for a lifetime for you and your friends.

Also, beware of filters. Most modern filters are made from Cellulose Acetone, and although it is said that they aren't poisonous (yeah, right), who wants to suck in burning plastic? Commercial cigarette filters are also the No.1 pollutant in the oceans with TRILLIONS of them added every year. They have a "half-life" so don't easily decompose.

Try this for filters instead, save even more money and save the planet one smoke at a time....Get a ball of everyday "SISAL" string, the type used in gardening etc. Tie a length to two things to make it taught. Roll cigarette papers tightly around it and then cut into small lengths with very sharp snips. VOILA...filters.
Sisal is a natural plant, is not toxic and is 100% biodegradable.

Happy smoking.

a reply to: nerbot

I smoke Natural American Spirits and I have no intention of abdoning them.

They're been kind to me over the years and I don't forsake Friends.

originally posted by: chiefsmom
So dumb. It's actually not just the black community, a lot of women smoke menthol. (mom did for years)

And yeah, coming after us vapers too.

Our Mind blowingly brilliant governor Whitmire, actually said on the news, that her daughter told her, that her friends were starting to smoke cigarettes, to GET OFF OF Vapes.
That is why she is going after Vaping.

I am curious, where is all the money coming from now, that the Tobacco lobbyists used to provide?
Some industry had to fill that role, that used to be a lot of money for politicians.

I seriously doubt that what her daughter told her is true. First of all, smoking makes you reek , vaping doesn't .
Nobody would know I vape unless I tell them. Also vaping is not nearly as bad for you as smoking (just looking at the number of chemicals in cigarettes . With smoking you more or less have to finish a cigarette once you lit it ( I have tried to save half-smoked cigarretes in the past when I smoked, and it's not great ) , with vaping you can just take one or two puffs and be done .

It's just an excuse to go after vapers.
Also vaping, is considered a 'cease smoking' method.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: LSU2018
... mainly it was black people who smoked menthols.

Well .. it looks like it's hispanic and black people who smoke them because those are the groups that are against this ban. What I don't get is why ban menthols and not all cigarettes. They both cause cancer so why single out menthols and not go for the regular cigarettes too. This ban makes no sense to me.

Yeah, while we're at it let's ban all alcohol, all sugary drinks, all foods containing added sugars, all couches (sloths) , all fast food restaraunts , no make that all restaraunts . Really ?

We're adults, we work , pay taxes, drive cars, fight wars etc. But not capable of deciding what we do to our bodies?
It's so infuriating, there are no words

originally posted by: pianopraze
I thought the Democrat party was the “leave my body alone" party

I get so confused

Exactly! My body my choice! If I want to vape/smoke etc, then that's my F*ng choice (adult)

originally posted by: 5thHead

originally posted by: budzprime69
You should really not be using a vape my man.
The wall it builds inside your lungs make it extremely difficult to get a good hearing of your lungs.
Like for real throw that crap away and get pipe tobacco or something. But STOP VAPE...or just hit it very rarely. I am being super cereal man

I would agree with this. I don't have any proof, or science, or articles to link to but vapes just feel bad in my lungs. It's like water in my lungs. It's like my body is telling me vapes are way worse than smoking and I'm going to listen to my body.

Not true, from what I read smoking is 10x worse for you.