Israel Targets Charity Workers in Drone Attack, 7 killed

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: DBCowboy

Maybe their flattening Gaza and deliberately starving them is bad intel, too?

War.

palestinians should surrender. It's horrible.

Britain starved "Jerry" during WWII and Britain lost @50 thousand innocents during the bombing of Britain.

Hashtag German Genocide?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Seems like you're trying to come up with any reason to justify these people's deaths.

Answer me this, would you be jumping through all these hoops if another country had killed an American?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

Seems like you're trying to come up with any reason to justify these people's deaths.

Answer me this, would you be jumping through all these hoops if another country had killed an American?

If they're dumb enough to be in a GOD-DAMNED warzone, then, Betty, you get what you get.

I swear, some people have not a single clue about what war is.

It isn't a video game, sport.

a reply to: DBCowboy

We did what?

Maybe look up how German U Boats tried to starve us??

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: CarlLaFong

Yes, I know.

But, Israel has admitted that this was a "mistake".

I want to know why.

Fog of war doesn't do.

Maybe it WAS a mistake...and it worked out just as HAMAS wanted.

When you regularly hide behind innocents to deceive and confuse your adversary, while protecting your own ass...innocent casualties may accidently be inflicted by your adversary.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2


Cmon, man. No malarkey! Budenxdroned a family in yheirbstayiin waging during the Afghanistan disaster. You care, but bet you don't even remember that. Selective outrage is so hot right now!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: DBCowboy

We did what?

Maybe look up how German U Boats tried to starve us??

True.

And the allies starved Germany. You should see the documentaries.

Are y'all torn apart yet ?

Do we have sufficient critical levels of outrage yet ?

Divided and arguing amongst ourselves, for things that supposedly happen halfway around the world, and we have zero chance of verifying on our own ?

We're being divided.

Which talking-head news-figure do you think would never lie ?

I have no clue what the heck is going on over there, nor even next-door.

But somebody sure seems to like hate, war, killing, fear, violence, and not humanity.

Perhaps we should figure-out who those manipulators are, hmmm ?

a reply to: DBCowboy

There are still rules in war and Israel is breaking all of them. Netanyahu deserves to be in jail. Instead he's out here grinning at people dying for doing nothing more than trying to bring a little light in a very dark place.

Honest question, why did you even try to pretend to justify this was okay if this was an accident when you knew all along that you believed these people deserved to die?

a reply to: Threadbarer

This is tweet with information that I will be attempting to confirm after work if I have time. Googled a couple of the points which seemed legitimate.

twitter.com...

1⃣ 80% more food trucks are now entering Gaza compared with before Hamas declared war. Before 10/7, UN figures show only 70 food trucks entered Gaza every day. Since March 1, it's a daily average of 126.

2⃣ Over 9,500 trucks with 200,000+ tons of food have entered Gaza since 10/7.

3⃣ Israel places zero restrictions on the amount of food entering Gaza and in fact encourages donor states to send as much as they want. It remains committed to ensuring as much aid as is needed enters Gaza.

4⃣ Hamas is hijacking and hoarding aid, while UN agencies turn a blind eye and on some occasions actively cover up its large-scale theft of aid.

5⃣ The United Nations has confirmed a "significant scale-up in humanitarian efforts... facilitated by the Israeli authorities across Gaza", involving WFP trucks and Israeli cooperation with the Gazan private sector.

6⃣ Israel is facilitating aid deliveries into Gaza by air, land, and sea, with the creation of a new maritime corridor, airdrops to hard-to-reach areas, and the opening of a new gate in the security fence.

7⃣ Israel has expanded the Jordanian route, adding capacity at the Allenby Crossing for the inspection of humanitarian aid trucks to go straight to Kerem Shalom.

8⃣ The UN is failing to distribute aid at the pace Israel is facilitating its entry, with trucks piling up on the Gazan side of the crossing. The UN attributes this to a "breakdown of law and order", i.e. disappearance of the "protection" of Hamas gunmen who escorted the convoys.

9⃣ Israel's assessment is there is a stable food supply in the southern Gaza Strip, where markets are evidently bustling and stocks are piling up in aid agencies' warehouses. It is taking proactive measures to expand delivery efforts in the north, where only 10-15% of the Gazan population remains despite evacuation orders.

🔟 The IPC report, which quotes Hamas figures uncritically, claims to be a projection but admits that it "does not take into account the latest developments on the ground", including major humanitarian initiatives in the last week. As such, it's a bad assessment, based on an out-of-date picture that cannot provide a meaningful projection of future trends.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

There are still rules in war and Israel is breaking all of them. Netanyahu deserves to be in jail. Instead he's out here grinning at people dying for doing nothing more than trying to bring a little light in a very dark place.

Honest question, why did you even try to pretend to justify this was okay if this was an accident when you knew all along that you believed these people deserved to die?

lol

A leftist lecturing me about rules.

War is hell, sport.

a reply to: Boogerpicker

Afghan?!!!

All this can end today if hamas surrenders.

a reply to: DBCowboy

So is military prison.

a reply to: DBCowboy

All of this can also end if Israel stops targeting innocents.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

All of this can also end if Israel stops targeting innocents.

No, hamas will still be fighting

So no.

a reply to: Threadbarer

While at the same time attempting to feed them?

From the UN

www.unocha.org...

Between 23 and 29 March, 42 per cent (8 out of 19) of humanitarian aid missions to northern Gaza were facilitated by the Israeli authorities, 42 per cent (8) were denied, and 16 per cent (3) were postponed or withdrawn. During the same period, 93 per cent (38 out of 41) of aid missions to areas south of Wadi Gaza that require coordination were facilitated by the Israeli authorities, and 7 per cent (3) were withdrawn. In total, since 1 March, 48 per cent (29 out of 60) of aid missions to northern Gaza were facilitated by the Israeli authorities, including one that was initially facilitated but later impeded, 30 per cent (18) were denied, and 22 per cent (13) were postponed or withdrawn. Moreover, out of 187 aid mission requests for areas south of Wadi Gaza that require coordination, 80 per cent (150) were facilitated by the Israeli authorities, 10 per cent (19) were denied, and 10 per cent (18) were postponed or withdrawn. Facilitated missions involved: food distributions; movement of emergency medical teams; fuel, nutrition and health assessments; delivery of supplies to hospitals; and support for water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) activities.

How many wars have had the “Genocidal Aggressor” bomb and aid people at the same time?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Some of us have been trying to warn this is a rabid dog off the chain. Not that I can't see how a 2000 year old feud could cause the rabiditity we see on both sides...but at this point neither seems much better than the other. They've both lost their humanity when it comes to and enemy...and the lord says we must not do that if we wish to follow his path.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The Left: "Russia deserves whatever they get, maybe they shouldn't have attacked their neighbour, it can all be over, as soon as they surrender. No mercy."

Also, the Left: "Israel needs to surrender immediately, as, the collateral damage from them defending themselves from an unprovoked terrorist attack is a war crime."

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MmmHmm

originally posted by: budzprime69

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: budzprime69

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: CarlLaFong

No. Might have been is not good enough.

I have been a long time supporter of the IDF but this slaughter and deliberate starvation tactics is beyond the pale.

I hate HAMAS but this has gone too far now.

Do you want HAMAS totally wiped out...or not?
Because, if you don't...there will absolutely be more terrorist attacks like October 7th.

HAMAS need to go but HAMAS is not Palestinians as a whole.
Damn near impossible to differentiate but not the same.
Like I said, very tight rope.

"Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius."

I don't really know how to respond to that.
I mean it certainly fits my perspective on many things.

How's this then. I prayed for a bicycle but eventually I figured out that's not how praying works, so instead I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness. There's no good answer, only the least expensive answer in spiritual and material cost. Sometimes that means abandoning the conflict, sometimes that means erasing it from the map.

The real question here is, does congress decide that moral imperative (derived from the constitutional parameters of their office) or do the voters who appointed them? Because my taxes are paying for someone else's national security, someone else's blood feud, and I don't think I appreciate it.