Some hard numbers about the Vax and the effort to cover up said numbers

You do know that you are in the Midst of a Genuis Correct ?
You Must Believe all of the BS that comes forth.

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

a reply to: 727Sky


Being owned by Pfizer and Monsanto the BS News media prefer keeping their jobs is why this is happening. They get paid to promote propaganda. It is time to learn to ignore the MSDNC news media they and many of our elected officials have some "splainin' to do" in a court of law with the shackles on their legs like they would do Assange.

ETA

Also time to return to illegalization of fake news propaganda. Obama had the propaganda laws removed IRC.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: TheSemiskepticII
Yes without a 'vaccine' this disease would have run it's course and then petered out. It is the way of the world. There was no vaccination for Bubonic Plague and it ran it's course and then petered out. All a vaccine does is lower the amount of illness and death. a reply to: network dude

but the reality is, that's not a measurable number. It's entirely possible the vaccine did nothing at all, or that the only thing it did is hurt. There is no track record other than the failure that was hidden.

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False.

The efficacy of a vaccine (or any treatment, for that matter) is measured statistically. Any of the many scientific studies over the last few years that look at the efficacy of the vaccines or other treatments like Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine compare the outcomes of a population of those who get the treatment versus those who don’t.

For example, here’s a paper titled “Effectiveness of mRNA Vaccination in Preventing COVID-19–Associated Invasive Mechanical Ventilation and Death — United States, March 2021–January 2022”

www.cdc.gov...

They looked at thousands of patients during the time period indicated who were hospitalized for covid-19 but had been vaccinated and compared their outcomes to covid-19 patients who had not been vaccinated and to hospital patients who did not have covid-19. The outcome they were looking at was whether the patient had to be put on a ventilator or died. Their conclusion:

“Receiving 2 or 3 doses of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine was associated with a 90% reduction in risk for COVID-19–associated IMV or death. Protection of 3 mRNA vaccine doses during the period of Omicron predominance was 94%.”

Unfortunately, most people don't seem to be able to understand arguments based on statistics.

butbutubut 😉

FDA Settles Lawsuit over Ivermectin Social Media Posts

The FDA has agreed to delete and never republish several social-media posts suggesting that ivermectin, a drug that some doctors used to treat COVID-19, is for animals and not humans.

While the FDA still does not approve of using ivermectin to treat COVID, it settled Thursday a lawsuit brought by three doctors who sued it, as well as the Department of Health and Human Services and its secretary, Xavier Becerra, and FDA secretary Robert Califf. All parties have settled.

The lawsuit, filed on June 2, 2022, was brought by doctors Mary Talley Bowden, Paul Marik and Robert Apter, each of whom claimed the FDA was interfering with their ability to practice medicine.

The case was initially dismissed on the grounds the FDA had "sovereign immunity," though a U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit reversed the lower court's decision saying that the "FDA is not a physician."

The appeals court also said that, "Even tweet-sized doses of personalized medical advice are beyond the FDA's statutory authority."

Not for two of our friends, one of their wife's is getting compensation from the federal government as he was an acting RCMP officer in top shape the other died in 48 hours after the shot from heart attack. 55 years old, lived in the woods, non drinker and non smoker, ripped and fit, totally normal we are told.FFS



a reply to: Euronymous2625

a reply to: Disgusted123

" I guess the fact that 99.9% of the people who got vaccinated are still alive and doing well is kinda putting this rhetoric to bed, isn't it? "

What is 99.9% of 20 Million ?

Dr. Pierre Kory Reveals Why Ivermectin Had to Be Destroyed - LINK

1.) Ivermectin threatened the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for the so-called C19 vaccines. If Ivermectin had proven to be an effective treatment, then EUA for C19 injections could have been nullified.
2.) Undermined vaccine uptake. “If ivermectin would have found to be effective, what would be the uptake of those vaccines?” asked Dr. Pierre Kory. “It would plummet.”
3.) Ivermectin would sabotage the profits from the C19 injections. “They knew it would destroy the market. And that market, probably over a few years, is north of $100 billion.”
4.) It threatened “the market for the competing pipeline patented pharmaceuticals like Paxlovid and Molnupiravir and Remdesivir, and they’ve made many billions off of those.”
5.) Too cheap to make money off of. Dr. Michael Turner says Ivermectin costs merely “$24 to save one life from COVID.”
6.) “This pandemic would have been over if everybody was on ivermectin, and that’s why they had to destroy it.”

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: kwaka

Bad math and faulty papers are hardly an endorsement of the fellow.

Choose to believe as you wish all the same.

But the fact of the matter is the majority of people who choose to get the vaccine are doing just fine.

As to your meta-analysis, this is interesting.

arstechnica.com...

And while you make a fair point, numbers are up all around for cardiovascular deaths and cancer, and a host of other demons. The sudden surge is noticeable. The vax genocide, if there was such an agenda (and there might well have been one, we don't surely know) will likely be a slow motion thing, occuring over years, accelerating the demise of many.

Personally, I believe COVID and the hoopla inflicted on the world was merely a mechanism. The vax was the objective.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Disgusted123

" I guess the fact that 99.9% of the people who got vaccinated are still alive and doing well is kinda putting this rhetoric to bed, isn't it? "

What is 99.9% of 20 Million ?

More to the point there were several hundred thousand die from it.

As soon as funding to develop an mRNA vaccine was announced I began investigating the decades of research, which indicated they had a long way to go and a lot of things to work trough before it could safely be used on humans. It could never get to the human trial phase because of all the severe complications and death it caused in the research lab, yet it was fast-tracked and given EUA.

When I went back to find the articles on how abismal all of the research was, eveything-and I mean everything giving test numbers and anything negative about mRNA research had been scrubbed from official sites. From there it was easy to watch the cover-up unfold in real time.

Maybe the vaccine saved some lives without any future health issues, even though it made people three times more likely to contract C19, or maybe this is something that affects DNA and will cause harm to future generations.

Some genetic mutations don't show up until the second generation after they occur, so for any of us to decide the vaccine is safe at this point in time is premature. We already know it wasn't effective, even though millions was spent in campaign advertizing to ensure us it was.

Has anybody bothered to look up how many DC swamp rats invested heavily in Pfizer and Big Pharma before the pandemic even hit? They ended up sitting on a gold mine, it seems.

a reply to: nugget1

Right

With that... Do we know the reasons WHY they want to use this mRna technology in our food chain so bad???

Here are a few things I have seen.

Canadian Government Authorized The First Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine And Spent $300M Buying 76 Million Doses - LINK

Tennessee passes “vaccine lettuce” bill declaring any food containing a vaccine to be a DRUG - LINK

American Rancher Blows Whistle On mRNA Vaccine Tests In Livestock - LINK

I Highly doubt that. Look up Remdesivir and ventilators. The same exact proceedure across the country, they were systematically killing innocent people that should have never died. lol. It's a known fact the poke did not stop the spread of Covid and one of the side effects was Covid itself. Haha. Next.

originally posted by: tarantulabite1
a reply to: nugget1

Right

With that... Do we know the reasons WHY they want to use this mRna technology in our food chain so bad???

Here are a few things I have seen.

Canadian Government Authorized The First Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine And Spent $300M Buying 76 Million Doses - LINK

Tennessee passes “vaccine lettuce” bill declaring any food containing a vaccine to be a DRUG - LINK

American Rancher Blows Whistle On mRNA Vaccine Tests In Livestock - LINK

The aliens can’t eat us until we’ve all been “vaccinated”.
They’ll get sick and die.
That’s why it’s a gene therapy.
I stick to that reason, otherwise it’s just evil people and that would warp my head too bad.

a reply to: Vermilion

Big alert issued the other day about the number of serious illnesses about to explode amongst those who have been heavily vaccinated if they catch COVID again by the end of this year.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: kwaka

Bad math and faulty papers are hardly an endorsement of the fellow.

Choose to believe as you wish all the same.

But the fact of the matter is the majority of people who choose to get the vaccine are doing just fine.

As to your meta-analysis, this is interesting.

arstechnica.com...

You're wrong. Stay in your bubble.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Disgusted123

" I guess the fact that 99.9% of the people who got vaccinated are still alive and doing well is kinda putting this rhetoric to bed, isn't it? "

What is 99.9% of 20 Million ?

The vaccine status of people who died from covid AFTER being vaxxed is unknown, since they didn't record that info (supposedly). Since you were three times more likely to catch covid after vaccination, it stands to reason that many, many of those deaths just mght have something to do with the vaccine.

A UK study that came out today showed people who've had C19 live an average of 9.3 months less than those who never caught it. Again, vaccine status not recorded-in the group three time more likely to get covid-so they blame the virus and ignore any possible ties to a vaccine that had abismal results for decades.

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: TheSemiskepticII
Yes without a 'vaccine' this disease would have run it's course and then petered out. It is the way of the world. There was no vaccination for Bubonic Plague and it ran it's course and then petered out. All a vaccine does is lower the amount of illness and death. a reply to: network dude

but the reality is, that's not a measurable number. It's entirely possible the vaccine did nothing at all, or that the only thing it did is hurt. There is no track record other than the failure that was hidden.

....

False.

The efficacy of a vaccine (or any treatment, for that matter) is measured statistically. Any of the many scientific studies over the last few years that look at the efficacy of the vaccines or other treatments like Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine compare the outcomes of a population of those who get the treatment versus those who don’t.

For example, here’s a paper titled “Effectiveness of mRNA Vaccination in Preventing COVID-19–Associated Invasive Mechanical Ventilation and Death — United States, March 2021–January 2022”

www.cdc.gov...

They looked at thousands of patients during the time period indicated who were hospitalized for covid-19 but had been vaccinated and compared their outcomes to covid-19 patients who had not been vaccinated and to hospital patients who did not have covid-19. The outcome they were looking at was whether the patient had to be put on a ventilator or died. Their conclusion:

“Receiving 2 or 3 doses of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine was associated with a 90% reduction in risk for COVID-19–associated IMV or death. Protection of 3 mRNA vaccine doses during the period of Omicron predominance was 94%.”

Unfortunately, most people don't seem to be able to understand arguments based on statistics.

I find it interesting that you speak with an air of authority on this study but failed to mention or grasp that when you simply read into the methodology that this study was prepared with outcome in mind. The vaccinated patients had to have received a dose less than 14 days from illness which by their own admission is when efficacy tanks, their control group was just anyone who tested negative for covid, their death count was 28 days from positive test and covid was long out of their system at some of their times of death, and there was not a 1:1 ratio of vaccine/nonvaccine/control co-morbities and basicly was random patients with those very narrow vaccine/control parameters in 17 states that were selected after this study, not during.

I'm not even trying to argue that the conclusion of this study is wrong. Perhaps it is 90% effective during the first 14 days. This study's methodology is a hot mess and using it to prove anything either way is a mistake.

a reply to: BigDuckEnergy


When a freedom of information request is given to the CDC on the results of their study on myocarditis, and all you get is a hundred and forty pages all totally redacted pages you know something is up.

a reply to: WeMustCare

I Read somewhere that it will take between 5 to 7 Years for People who got Vaxed More than Once to start feeling the Negative Effects on their Body through the Weakening of their Natural Immune Systems .