On the admissibility of torturing terrorists

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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Lazy88

Take a mash hammer to someone's fingers and they will tell you anything you wish to hear.

No pun intended but its a hit-and-miss scenario, as you suggest, people will do anything, say anything, to stop the pain.

So asking questions under penalty of more torture tends to yield the answers you wish to hear.

Brainwashing and hypnosis are other more fruitful ways to get information.

a reply to: yuppa

In that instance, the person silly enough to be doing the thievery was a junkie and already somewhat brainwashed and hypnotized by addiction.

As to hypnosis, i would have though hypnosis typically requires a certain level of willingness or cooperation from the individual being hypnotized.

That being said i really dont know much about the subject bar the odd trip to the likes of Peter Powers many moons ago.

Now where brainwashing is concerned, would that not at least require a modicum of time?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: yuppa

In that instance, the person silly enough to be doing the thievery was a junkie and already somewhat brainwashed and hypnotized by addiction.

As to hypnosis, i would have though hypnosis typically requires a certain level of willingness or cooperation from the individual being hypnotized.

That being said i really dont know much about the subject bar the odd trip to the likes of Peter Powers many moons ago.

Now where brainwashing is concerned, would that not at least require a modicum of time?

A drugged person will be easier to use persuasion.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Lazy88

Take a mash hammer to someone's fingers and they will tell you anything you wish to hear.

No pun intended but its a hit-and-miss scenario, as you suggest, people will do anything, say anything, to stop the pain.

So asking questions under penalty of more torture tends to yield the answers you wish to hear.

Brainwashing and hypnosis are other more fruitful ways to get information.

Does it take a long time? ie. several sessions over several days?

a reply to: yuppa

Persuasion to do what?

a reply to: andy06shake

Influencing a person to be able to hypnotize them and plant suggestions. drugged out peoples inhibitions are very low in comparison to a non drugged out person.

a reply to: yuppa

But they have already committed the horrendous act of depravity.

Not that torture is any better but the horse is already out the gate so to speak.

A little late for hypnotizing them or planting suggestions.

And again time would be a factor of concern.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: yuppa

But they have already committed the horrendous act of depravity.

Not that torture is any better but the horse is already out the gate so to speak.

A little late for hypnotizing them or planting suggestions.

And again time would be a factor of concern.

But they could have information on OTHERS. Or you could make them get rid of their own people somehow.

a reply to: yuppa

I mean i get what you are suggesting.

But in this instance i really can't see how it could have been of much use.

As soon as those scummy bastards were apprehended anybody and everyone with any connection to the mass murders they perpetrated would have disappeared or gone underground.

Because they know full well what would be in the post.