For Which Crime Will Candidate Trump Be Found Guilty - Within The Next 8 Months...before Nov 2024.

Wait till you find out who Stormy really had an affair with. It wasn't Trump. 😃

originally posted by: xuenchen
Wait till you find out who Stormy really had an affair with. It wasn't Trump. 😃

So, you don't think Trump had this encounter with Stormy.

Then why did he pay her hush money.

Personally, I don't care who bonks who.

IMO -- most high-profile marriages are business arrangements -- with perks on the side.

a reply to: Annee
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Stop it. She admitted several times it was all BS, and she's already lost cases against Trump, and owes Trump fees per court orders.

And we know from court records Cohen paid her without telling Trump.

And we know Trump never signed that fake non-disclosure agreement.

Cohen went to jail already for lying about parts of this.

This case is about trying to prove Trump knew and covered up a payment to Cohen for legal fees. (possible if Trump was told the truth which he wasn't). 🤣🤣

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Annee
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Stop it. She admitted several times it was all BS, and she's already lost cases against Trump, and owes Trump fees per court orders.

So much -- lying -- denials -- and cover-ups.

The truth usually does eventually find its way to the surface.

I'll wait.

a reply to: Annee

The whole NY case will depend heavily on what hearsay is allowed.

The WHOLE case is hearsay.

And, there's loads of Cohen statements that are already proven lies. 🤣

And again, wait for the real affair to be exposed.

originally posted by: Annee
He lied and tried to cover it up.
Must remember this is not some guy off the street.
Disclosure for someone running for president is a thing.

But it's not ILLEGAL to have sex with someone who agrees to it ... and it's not ILLEGAL for one person to give the other person money to tell them not to talk about it and that person accepts the money .. and it's not ILLEGAL to lie and say that you didn't.

How is any of that ILLEGAL and worthy of a court trial? I can see having to go to court over classified documents not being handled correctly ... both Trump and Biden are guilty of that .... but this 'hush money' thing?? Nothing illegal about it. All private business.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Trump didn't pay Stormy. Cohen did without Trump knowing it until later.

This new case is about covering up the payment. But Trump only paid Cohen later for legal fees based on what Cohen said. 😀

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: FlyersFan

Trump didn't pay Stormy. Cohen did without Trump knowing it until later.

This new case is about covering up the payment. But Trump only paid Cohen later for legal fees based on what Cohen said. 😀

Okay ... lets say that Cohen paid the woman to shut up.
Again ... how is that illegal? I don't see it.

Trump and the woman had sex. They agreed to it. Nothing illegal.
Trump or Cohen paid the woman to shut up about it. She agreed to it. Nothing illegal.
Trump lied and said he didn't have sex with her. So what? That's not illegal.

Where is the 'illegal' in all this? I don't get it.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: FlyersFan

Trump didn't pay Stormy. Cohen did without Trump knowing it until later.

This new case is about covering up the payment. But Trump only paid Cohen later for legal fees based on what Cohen said. 😀

Okay ... lets say that Cohen paid the woman to shut up.
Again ... how is that illegal? I don't see it.

Trump and the woman had sex. They agreed to it. Nothing illegal.
Trump or Cohen paid the woman to shut up about it. She agreed to it. Nothing illegal.
Trump lied and said he didn't have sex with her. So what? That's not illegal.

Where is the 'illegal' in all this? I don't get it.

It isn't. You are correct. 😊

But that's not what this NY case is about.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
He lied and tried to cover it up.
Must remember this is not some guy off the street.
Disclosure for someone running for president is a thing.

But it's not ILLEGAL to have sex with someone who agrees to it ... and it's not ILLEGAL for one person to give the other person money to tell them not to talk about it and that person accepts the money .. and it's not ILLEGAL to lie and say that you didn't.

How is any of that ILLEGAL and worthy of a court trial? I can see having to go to court over classified documents not being handled correctly ... both Trump and Biden are guilty of that .... but this 'hush money' thing?? Nothing illegal about it. All private business.

I personally don't care. Bong everyone you want.

But I don't make laws.

Apparently, someone decided he broke some. Someone who does know law.

originally posted by: Annee
Apparently, someone decided he broke some. Someone who does know law.

Yeah .. that's what I"m asking ... WHAT was illegal?

I"m not seeing it.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
Apparently, someone decided he broke some. Someone who does know law.

Yeah .. that's what I"m asking ... WHAT was illegal?

I"m not seeing it.

I like to simplify -- in case you haven't noticed

It says in plain words:

Paying hush money is not illegal. But the prosecution says Mr Trump falsified business records and broke election laws as he tried to cover up the payments. Each of the charges carries a maximum of four years in prison, though a judge could sentence Mr Trump to probation if he is convicted.

But the majority of "this group" chose to deny that is breaking the law.

a reply to: Annee

Paying his own personal money was not using election money though so ho wis it a crime? the FEDS decided it was nto a crime in their eyes and didnt prosecute. a STATE person should not be able to take a FED charge that was dropped for lack of evidence and bootstrap it to make it into a crime.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Wait till you find out who Stormy really had an affair with. It wasn't Trump. 😃

Hmm...Michael Avenatti ? *)

a reply to: Annee

So he is being charged for covering up something that wasn't illegal to begin with?

This makes no sense to me.

I can see being charged for the classified documents ... both Biden and Trump.

But this? I don't get it.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: xuenchen
Wait till you find out who Stormy really had an affair with. It wasn't Trump. 😃

Hmm...Michael Avenatti ? *)

No. But you are very close. 😊

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: Annee

So he is being charged for covering up something that wasn't illegal to begin with?

This makes no sense to me.

I can see being charged for the classified documents ... both Biden and Trump.

But this? I don't get it.

So, you're gonna pick and choose part of what it says?

It makes sense when you don't choose to omit the part of why he got charged.

originally posted by: Annee
It makes sense when you don't choose to omit the part of why he got charged.

He supposedly paid someone not to tell people that they had sex.
And he supposedly lied about having sex.
SO WHAT? It's not illegal.
I'm not seeing it.
The documents? Yeah.
This? No.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
It makes sense when you don't choose to omit the part of why he got charged.

He supposedly paid someone not to tell people that they had sex.
And he supposedly lied about having sex.
SO WHAT? It's not illegal.
I'm not seeing it.
The documents? Yeah.
This? No.

I know what I posted explained why he was charged.

You don't need to agree. But it is there in black and white.

a reply to: Annee

Apparently COHEN was who stormy was screwing with,and they cooked up a plan to try and implicate trump.