So you don't believe in the devil

It's obnoxious why people try to make others victims of the suicide they try to commit.

You know, making cryptic, wise-sounding comments is what fraudulent guru-type scamsters do. I'm trying my best here, but every time you come out with another Confucius Say routine I lose a bit more respect for you.

Come on, Getafix. Have the gumption to say frankly what you mean and face the music. We're all grown-ups here.

a reply to: Astyanax

Sounds all interesting and all but yea, I've got work to do.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I've managed to bring some high intel in to this thread and a few
have downed their intelligence with insults and petty attacks.
Not at all unexpected. But do they realize what their choosing
when choosing each time that occurs? They're choosing their own dark
side instead of their light. Refer to it as you wish their evil instead of
their good their devil instead of their God, their yin not their
yang. Was this thread intended to be a trap for such to
prove a point? Only I can know that but I myself would be choosing
to go against my Gods teachings if that were true and I lied about it.

I missed your logic on this. So, you are saying that if others believe the devil is real then that is proof that he is real?

It's so simple to show people worship the dark, the devil, the yin.
I have chosen the light because it helps me see. And I see people
who sacrifice children in the name of their darkness, devil, their
yang.
The whole point of this thread is what people choose is absolutely real.

Job chose God and God knew him. The dark could not claim him.
If that doesn't answer your question I'll try again a different way.

What people choose effects other people. How is that not real?

Does the Devil exist in personification? I've shown some prominent
people who say yes. And there are millions of them.

Now I have a question do you believe human sacrifice still occurs
to this day as it has in the past?

a reply to: Astyanax

I disagree with the saying; losers rewrite history all the time. In fact, most of the Old Testament is history seen from the losing side. But yes, the Bible, and in particular the New Testament, do show signs of extensive addition and rewriting. Subtraction, too: the process of accepting texts as canonical or rejecting them as apocryphal or spurious was, in fact, censorship. Historicity of the Bible

Would I be kissing your ass to say I'm glad a person of your calibur
has taken an interest in my thread? Or would that just be the truth?

The choice is yours because you can't know what I'm thinking. I can
only give you proof by my actions. How I choose to respond. I fail
to see how people can choose anything that doesn't exist.

TextBut, as you say, they contradict one another. The Ten Commandments demand strict observance of the Sabbath; Jesus pooh-poohed that. Moses instructed those who had been wronged or injured to extract vengeance in kind: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Jesus instructed the wronged to forgive offenders seventy times seven. Nobody in Scripture − not even Jesus − ‘judges not’; they all pass judgement like fury.

I wonder if you've ever applied dispensationalism to your knowledge of the Bible?

I couldn't resist posting Black Widow's Come to the Sabbat:

youtu.be...

a reply to: Unharmed

Am I wrong to long for something higher?

a reply to: Astrocometus

Nothing makes sense to me these days, I guess that's how its meant to be.

originally posted by: Unharmed
a reply to: Astrocometus

Nothing makes sense to me these days, I guess that's how its meant to be.

When you can make perfect sense of it all. It won't even matter my friend.
Because the only thing that matters is what you choose.

originally posted by: Astrocometus

I've managed to bring some high intel in to this thread and a few
have downed their intelligence with insults and petty attacks.
Not at all unexpected. But do they realize what their choosing
when choosing each time that occurs? They're choosing their own dark
side instead of their light. Refer to it as you wish their evil instead of
their good their devil instead of their God, their yin not their
yang. Was this thread intended to be a trap for such to
prove a point? Only I can know that but I myself would be choosing
to go against my Gods teachings if that were true and I lied about it.

Such a rough area to ponder in. You can have the most religious that can also be the evilest, and the non-religious that live the most good life one can accomplish. Of course, it can be the other way around too, so I guess my point is that non-religious doesn't necessarily drive people down some evil path, and being religious doesn't necessarily drive people toward the light.

It's so simple to show people worship the dark, the devil, the yin.
I have chosen the light because it helps me see. And I see people
who sacrifice children in the name of their darkness, devil, their
yang. The whole point of this thread is what people choose is absolutely real.
Job chose God and God knew him. The dark could not claim him.
If that doesn't answer your question I'll try again a different way.
What people choose effects other people. How is that not real?
Does the Devil exist in personification? I've shown some prominent
people who say yes. And there are millions of them.

Now I have a question do you believe human sacrifice still occurs
to this day as it has in the past?

I find demonic evil much like Ghost as in no matter how much others say they have seen it there really isn't truism unless one personally witnesses it. I think people can just elect not to play, so there is a third path of none of the above.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Such a rough area to ponder in. You can have the most religious, and also be the evilest, and the non-religious that live the most good life one can accomplish. Of course, it can be the other way around too, so I guess my point is that non-religious doesn't necessarily drive people down some evil path, and being religious doesn't necessarily drive people toward the light.

I love this reply. And from where I stand loving the light you are
so correct and therfore righteous in my humble opinion. It isn't that
rough tho if we all just pay attention to the power of choice granted
By God himself. Pay attention to every choice that comes to mind.
And you should begin to see more clearly how every choice you
make matters

a reply to: AngryCymraeg2

It was a rhetorical question. The point was people believing things without knowing for certain if they are true and being led to believe that if it has an important title attached to it like 'King James' then it must be true.

You prove what I wrote perfectly with your belief in what you just wrote when you weren't there to know if it actually happened the way you were told. Yet, you write and tell me as though you know 100 per cent it is true.

a reply to: Astyanax

The way you responded to me (and others) tells me all I need to know.

I can understand why you were triggered though, if you've spent all your life studying history when there is no proof it is even correct.

And it seems you put all your energy into aquiring 'earthly things'.

All the best

a reply to: Astrocometus

Would I be kissing your ass to say I'm glad a person of your calibur has taken an interest in my thread? Or would that just be the truth?

I wish I could say that I cared. I joined this thread because of a mention of Bob Dylan and another about the opening sentence of Moby Dick. Music and literature are interests of mine, you see. Present-day popular superstition is not, except in a sociological or anthropological way.

I wonder if you've ever applied dispensationalism to your knowledge of the Bible?

No. Dispensationslism is theological pseudoscience for Biblical literalists. It is as remote from genuine historical scholarship as we are from Pluto.

a reply to: Astyanax

I wish I could say that I cared.

Why or maybe why not?

No. Dispensationslism is theological pseudoscience for Biblical literalists. It is as remote from genuine historical scholarship as we are from Pluto.

Um I disagree dispensationalism is merely dividing the word of God according
to who he is speaking to and the age he is speaking in. Not really a science at all.

For instance God commands the Hebrews to obey the law like keep the sabbath.
After Christ it's no longer a law that applies in this age or for the gentiles.

It takes away most all of the little toys you atheists like to play with.

Apply it and the Bible makes way more sense in fact.

The Bible even instructs us to do this'

Timothy 2:16

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not
to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and
vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

Reading the Bible without it is what enables you.

a reply to: Astrocometus

Dave Mustaine did a song on the devil, I am surprised you chose not to post it cause it is a pretty good statement:



A good Megadeth tune I think.

a reply to: Darkblade71

Oh cool! I'm on it brother! I just didn't know about it.

Can't help but love Dave to be sure.

Scrappy voice and dynamic lyricist.

You know, reading this thread makes me want to say a few things.

Early on in life I chose my path, one of experiencing for myself instead of what I was told.The reasons for this was due to my own divine and not so divine encounters.

It appeared to me that something was "off" with religions in general. Why believe if you cannot experience? But you can experience, no books needed, just some reflection,meditation, and openness to the universe. Common sense is a must, but the answers are there for anyone who wants to look inside themselves and find them.

God could never be defined in a book, and neither could the devil.

Is there such beings?

in the words of Ozzy Osbourne, "Don't ask me cause I don't know."

I know what I experience only, and even in that experience it is open to interpretation.
I have seen both in my lifetime, reflected in many ways, but is it just my interpretation of events?
There is more to this universe than any of us could ever understand, and understanding beings of such magnitude is beyond any humans, we are foolish to think we ever could.

Belief and knowing are two different things....

Sorry, just babbling now...it got me thinking...

a reply to: Darkblade71

Belief and knowing are two different things.

Why believe if you cannot experience?

Do you realise that these two statements contradict each other? Belief is for people who don't know.