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I did my homework; now do yours.
7 states now allow full term abortion-up to and after the moment of birth-with more states fighting for that 'right'.
No, they are not 'high risk' and do not require a lawyer to sign off.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: nugget1
I did my homework; now do yours.
I don't think you did.
This is what you said:
7 states now allow full term abortion-up to and after the moment of birth-with more states fighting for that 'right'.
No state has "abortion after birth". Whatever that is...That's a lie.
No, they are not 'high risk' and do not require a lawyer to sign off.
They usually are.
No hospital, which has lawyers, will allow an abortion on demand for healthy viable 9 month fetus simply because a woman demands one.
Late term abortion like that only occur when the woman's health or life is at risk, and/or the fetus has a condition that's non-compatible with life and the patient chooses to allow the fetus to die in womb, rather than linger for weeks in excruciating pain.
It shouldn't be up to politicians to decide how hard a woman has to be dying before she can get an abortion or be forced to carry a fetus only to bury and infant.
Washington D.C. now has among the least restrictive abortion laws in the country. Abortions do not need to be performed by a licensed physician; the district does not ban late-term abortions; and there are no requirements that abortions be performed at a hospital or with a second doctor present. There are public funds available for women seeking an abortion in the case of rape or incest.
Third trimester: Virginia is the only state that prohibits abortions in the pregnancy's third trimester, which starts at around 25 weeks, per Guttmacher. It's also the lone southern state that hasn't banned or restricted abortion since the end of Roe.
Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest
No hospital, which has lawyers, will allow an abortion on demand for healthy viable 9 month fetus simply because a woman demands one.
originally posted by: Disgusted123
"A person can't say they are pro life if they support IVF."
Sure they can. Look up "hypocrite".
originally posted by: AlexandrosOMegas
It will ALWAYS come to one question though as far as the MAIN question goes though of ABORTIONS or NO ABORTIONS. And that will always be, "are girls really too immature to even make this a question which REQUIRES an answer, can they ever just grow up and take responsibility for conception, or will they always treat abortion as one of a long list of contraception methods as in 1. The pill, 2. A condom, 3. Hormone ring, 4. Murder the baby, 5. Diaphragm, etc. Sorry, but the fact that they have every way on earth to NOT conceive but think they'll just kill it when nothing needs to die at all, baby, embryo, clump of cells, whatever. Abortion should be a choice for people who were grown up enough to be HAVING sex but who are one of those tiny percentages of people who took responsibility but conception occurred. Don't think for a SECOND that 99% of all abortions would be stopped if we only took that rare number who tried.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
Do we?
How is the future population at risk? Climate change? Replacement theory? Abortion and contraception? War and the politics of war, the Apocalypse?
Washington D.C. now has among the least restrictive abortion laws in the country. Abortions do not need to be performed by a licensed physician; the district does not ban late-term abortions; and there are no requirements that abortions be performed at a hospital or with a second doctor present. There are public funds available for women seeking an abortion in the case of rape or incest.
There were 626,000 abortions in 2021. Less than 13% were for health reasons, so a normal person would conclude that abortion is more of a choice than for a woman or fetus's health.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
A fetus doesn't have "fee will".
And like 98 percent of those abortions were done within the first 15 weeks. Very few women need late term medical abortions. So why make it so hard for them to get the care they need, and send bleeding pregnant women to wait until they're bleeding harder to get the medical care they need? The state has no business questioning medical professions best medical judgment when their patients are in medical crisis.
There’s really too many activist doctors around to completely trust any of them as you can agree.
Having an out like ‘mental health of the mother’ just proves it.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
A fetus doesn't have "fee will".
And like 98 percent of those abortions were done within the first 15 weeks. Very few women need late term medical abortions. So why make it so hard for them to get the care they need, and send bleeding pregnant women to wait until they're bleeding harder to get the medical care they need? The state has no business questioning medical professions best medical judgment when their patients are in medical crisis.
Abortions are also big money... When a State pays for it what do you think clinics push as the first choice when they can get 1000 bucks for each abortion?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
Prescribing a pill and seeing a patient maybe twice, isn't going to net a $1000 from Medicaid.
Abortion pills (AKA medication abortion) can cost up to around $800, but it’s often less. The average cost at Planned Parenthood is around $580.
Let me ask you this since you claim 98% of abortions are done 1st trimester.
Would you compromise to legal abortion in ONlY the first trimester in all 50 states while making abortion illegal after the 1st trimester?
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
Prescribing a pill and seeing a patient maybe twice, isn't going to net a $1000 from Medicaid.
Abortion pills (AKA medication abortion) can cost up to around $800, but it’s often less. The average cost at Planned Parenthood is around $580.
Here are two pills... cha-ching.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
Okay. I'm old, and money isn't what it used to be. I'm also pretty poor and pretty healthy for my age, so my medical bills don't come to me. My insurance covers all my tests, doctors' visits and medication. But I do see how much my blood draws are, and they're around $900 every 3 months. So.....yeah.