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originally posted by: Station27
originally posted by: chr0naut
The fact that 60GHz is absorbed by oxygen molecules, means that air blocks the signal.
It's a "fact" that oxygen blocks their signal? So, you're saying they're surrounded by oxygen and therefore can't work at transmitting signals, preventing them from doing what they're supposed to do? Then why put these towers up if they won't work?
Do you ever listen to yourself when you speak?
In addition to the high-data rates that can be accomplished in this spectrum, energy propagation in the 60 GHz band has unique characteristics that make possible many other benefits such as excellent immunity to interference, high security, and frequency re-use.
Point-to-point wireless systems operating at 60 GHz have been used for many years by the intelligence community for high security communications and by the military for satellite-to- satellite communications. Their interest in this frequency band stems from a phenomenon of nature: the oxygen molecule (O2) absorbs electromagnetic energy at 60 GHz like a piece of food in a microwave oven (see Figure 2). This absorption occurs to a much higher degree at 60 GHz than at lower frequencies typically used for wireless communications. This absorption weakens (attenuates) 60 GHz signals over distance, so that signals cannot travel far beyond their intended recipient. For this reason, 60 GHz is an excellent choice for covert satellite-to-satellite communications because the earth’s atmosphere acts like a shield preventing earth-based eavesdropping. Because of the rich legacy of applications in this band, a wide variety of components and subassemblies for 60 GHz products are available today.
originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: chr0naut
LOL, someone puts a bogus sticker on a pole and you post it.
Can you provide any supporting evidence that that is a bogus sticker?
The fact that 60GHz is absorbed by oxygen molecules, means that air blocks the signal.
That's one thing it means. It also means that life supporting oxygen molecules can be excited by the 60GHz frequency, which I've heard can make the oxygen harder for living things to absorb.
Seems pretty relevant that 5G is a communication medium that employs the use of non-ionizing radiation which does not have enough energy to ionize atoms or molecules.
Microwave ovens use non-ionizing radiation as well, yet they have enough energy to cook food relatively quickly.
It's also not safe for utility workers to climb energized cellphone towers, because they also put out enough energy to cause physical harm.
originally posted by: Station27
originally posted by: chr0naut
The fact that 60GHz is absorbed by oxygen molecules, means that air blocks the signal.
It's a "fact" that oxygen blocks their signal? So, you're saying they're surrounded by oxygen and therefore can't work at transmitting signals, preventing them from doing what they're supposed to do? Then why put these towers up if they won't work?
Do you ever listen to yourself when you speak?
originally posted by: IndieA
originally posted by: Station27
originally posted by: chr0naut
The fact that 60GHz is absorbed by oxygen molecules, means that air blocks the signal.
It's a "fact" that oxygen blocks their signal? So, you're saying they're surrounded by oxygen and therefore can't work at transmitting signals, preventing them from doing what they're supposed to do? Then why put these towers up if they won't work?
Do you ever listen to yourself when you speak?
I suggest you do your own research on the subject, but I'll share this:
5G can use a variety of frequencies, 60GHz is one of them, and yes, it is absorbed by oxygen molecules.
Because, it's absorbed by oxygen, and there's a lot of oxygen in the air, the 60GHz frequency doesn't travel very far and because of this, it has security benefits.
In addition to the high-data rates that can be accomplished in this spectrum, energy propagation in the 60 GHz band has unique characteristics that make possible many other benefits such as excellent immunity to interference, high security, and frequency re-use.
Point-to-point wireless systems operating at 60 GHz have been used for many years by the intelligence community for high security communications and by the military for satellite-to- satellite communications. Their interest in this frequency band stems from a phenomenon of nature: the oxygen molecule (O2) absorbs electromagnetic energy at 60 GHz like a piece of food in a microwave oven (see Figure 2). This absorption occurs to a much higher degree at 60 GHz than at lower frequencies typically used for wireless communications. This absorption weakens (attenuates) 60 GHz signals over distance, so that signals cannot travel far beyond their intended recipient. For this reason, 60 GHz is an excellent choice for covert satellite-to-satellite communications because the earth’s atmosphere acts like a shield preventing earth-based eavesdropping. Because of the rich legacy of applications in this band, a wide variety of components and subassemblies for 60 GHz products are available today.
The Benefits of 60 GHz Unlicensed Wireless Communications - Free PDF Download
And just a general FYI:
The 2.4GHz frequency used in 4G cell phones, Bluetooth, radar systems, and microwave ovens, is absorbed by water molecules.
originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: chr0naut
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We Have No Reason to Believe 5G Is Safe
The chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) recently announced through a press release that the commission will soon reaffirm the radio frequency radiation (RFR) exposure limits that the FCC adopted in the late 1990s. These limits are based upon a behavioral change in rats exposed to microwave radiation and were designed to protect us from short-term heating risks due to RFR exposure.
Yet, since the FCC adopted these limits based largely on research from the 1980s, the preponderance of peer-reviewed research, more than 500 studies, have found harmful biologic or health effects from exposure to RFR at intensities too low to cause significant heating.
Citing this large body of research, more than 240 scientists who have published peer-reviewed research on the biologic and health effects of nonionizing electromagnetic fields (EMF) signed the International EMF Scientist Appeal, which calls for stronger exposure limits. The appeal makes the following assertions:
“Numerous recent scientific publications have shown that EMF affects living organisms at levels well below most international and national guidelines. Effects include increased cancer risk, cellular stress, increase in harmful free radicals, genetic damages, structural and functional changes of the reproductive system, learning and memory deficits, neurological disorders, and negative impacts on general well-being in humans. Damage goes well beyond the human race, as there is growing evidence of harmful effects to both plant and animal life.
The latest cellular technology, 5G, will employ millimeter waves for the first time in addition to microwaves that have been in use for older cellular technologies, 2G through 4G. Given limited reach, 5G will require cell antennas every 100 to 200 meters, exposing many people to millimeter wave radiation. 5G also employs new technologies (e.g., active antennas capable of beam-forming; phased arrays; massive multiple inputs and outputs, known as massive MIMO) which pose unique challenges for measuring exposures.
Millimeter waves are mostly absorbed within a few millimeters of human skin and in the surface layers of the cornea. Short-term exposure can have adverse physiological effects in the peripheral nervous system, the immune system and the cardiovascular system. The research suggests that long-term exposure may pose health risks to the skin (e.g., melanoma), the eyes (e.g., ocular melanoma) and the testes (e.g., sterility).
5G communications towers, despite being close to the frequencies of a microwave oven, do not noticeably heat the surrounding air at distances that the public has access to, and therefore their radio output power at those distances must necessarily be much less than in a microwave oven.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
Are you sure.
So if the emissions are bad for health trying to sue some company which does not exist is problematic. This could also be a problem as the radiation levels would if off the scale and cause physical damage since they came out during the lockdown during the vaccine rollout and could have a hand in the rapid rise of debilitating diseases and thus be cause for deniability.
Seems pretty relevant that 5G is a communication medium that employs the use of non-ionizing radiation which does not have enough energy to ionize atoms or molecules.
Considering the claims made by the op regarding emissions and that "the radiation levels would if off the scale and cause physical damage".
As to the usual rubbish, like annonentity constantly posting unsubstantiated doom porn that never comes to pass perchance?
So you need to investigate this and let us know, so go set up a little campsite right next to one of these antennas and stay for a few days.
Based on your current beliefs espoused on the subject here, it could make you even smarter.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
So you need to investigate this and let us know, so go set up a little campsite right next to one of these antennas and stay for a few days.
I don't need to do anything NoCorruptionAllowed.
Based on your current beliefs espoused on the subject here, it could make you even smarter.
My beliefs and the claims I make are based on the scientific evidence available
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
Is that butthurt i can smell my little pseudoscientist?
I am not plagiarizing anything and i suggest you show where if indeed you feel that way.
Good luck with the personal attacks, have you not already had comments removed in the thread for being a plonker.
And where is your research again?
We must have missed that.
Anyhoo not my fault you fail to comprehend science and physics.
You should have been taught the properties of non-ionizsing radiation in standard-grade physics.
Have a nice day in la'la land.
ROFL "non ionizing radiation" That isn't even the topic of the OP. This is about dodgy 5G companies that don't exist.
You can't even get that right and instead go off topic on a wild rant about non ionizing radiation.
By the way my education far exceeds yours in every field of science. But I understand you have a need to feel important in your little corner.
The only thing you seem to like doing is going off topic in every thread you can.