Isnt this Treason Biden to build port in Gaza to receive aid .

a reply to: gortex

So you’re saying you would rather us believe an older poll from before October 7th that fits your narrative. Noted. 🤡

The fact is that palestinian support has risen so much in Gaza, and even the West Bank, that 90% of them want the Palestinian Authority gone. apnews.com...

Those palestinian people celebrated the October 7th massacre and would rather hamas represent them instead of a PA.
Those are the facts.
Sorry about your narrative.

Biden's committed treason many many times lol

a reply to: Vermilion

So you’re saying you would rather us believe an older poll from before October 7th that fits your narrative. Noted.

And you're saying you'd rather believe the poll you want to believe , the poll I posted was taken in October shortly before the attack and Israel's retribution against the Palestinian population so it is a more reliable snapshot of the mood of the Palestinian people than one taken as bombs were falling.

The fact is that palestinian support has risen so much in Gaza, and even the West Bank, that 90% of them want the Palestinian Authority gone.

Strangely enough that's why Netanyahu nurtured Hamas , as a foil against the Palestinian Authority , funny how things work out isn't it.

a reply to: gortex

You should ask yourself why you are so adamant to ignore what the palestinian people actually say-
They clearly say they prefer Hamas.

You should ask yourself why you are so adamant to ignore what the palestinian people actually do-
They aided hamas on October 7th and celebrated that massacre.

Deny ignorance.

a reply to: Vermilion

You should ask yourself why you are so adamant to ignore what the palestinian people actually say-
They clearly say they prefer Hamas.

A question you should perhaps ask yourself.

In early October, Arab Barometer, a central resource for quantitative research on Arab countries, completed its most recent survey in Palestine, offering unique insight into the views of Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza. The next day, Oct. 7, Hamas launched its surprise attack on Israel

The Arab Barometer’s eighth and latest survey of Palestinians was conducted in person and is a representative survey of 1,189 Palestinians ages 18 and older living in the West Bank and Gaza.

About 23% of respondents said they have a great deal or quite a lot of trust in Hamas; 52% had no trust at all in Hamas.

a reply to: gortex

Why are you ignoring the December poll?

Why are you ignoring the Palestinians celebrating the October 7th massacre?

Did you also ignore the ‘dancing Israelis’ on 9/11?

a reply to: Vermilion

Why are you ignoring the December poll?

Why do you think an internet poll in a war zone is more accurate than an in person poll conducted in normal times ?

Why are you ignoring the Palestinians celebrating the October 7th massacre?

Why wouldn't they given what they've had to endure under years of Israeli occupation ?

Did you also ignore the ‘dancing Israelis’ on 9/11?

Yes , stupid people do stupid things.

a reply to: gortex

The December poll is credible to the Associated Press, Reuters, NPR etc.
apnews.com...
www.reuters.com...
www.npr.org...

Do you have higher standards than them?
Your standards only apply to polls you agree with. That’s most likely where your ignorance problem is.

a reply to: Vermilion

The December poll is credible to the Associated Press, Reuters, NPR etc.
apnews.com...
www.reuters.com...
www.npr.org...

Do you have higher standards than them?

My god I hope so.....

a reply to: gortex

LOL perfect PR cover story to "justify" the new Gaza Port concept.

It never stops does it 🤣

Oh-so perfect 😁


Gaza: Airdropped Aid Packages Kill 5 Civilians, 10 Injured

a reply to: HopeForTheFuture

Demography of Palestine in 1945

Muslims: 1,061,270
Christians: 135,550
Jews: 553,600
Total population of Palestine: 1,764,520
en.m.wikipedia.org...(region)

When I said l-o-n-g before, I meant 5000 years ago, not 1945.

originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat
a reply to: YouSir

I truly cannot bring myself to be gleeful as the Israeli's commit war crime after war crime...

Did you bump your head or something?

You want to list the war crimes of Hamas and the Palestinians against Israel vs Israel's war crimes against the Palestinians and Hamas? OK...

If Israel's list is longer I'll pay you $100.
If the Palestinian/Hamas list is longer you pay me $100.

If the loser welches and doesn't pay the bet, they get browbeaten off of ATS by the other members.

Deal?

Ummm...Dude...I get browbeaten here everyday...from the likes of you...and that childlike member I was responding to...

All because I have...gasp...a differing opinion...

All because I choose not to swallow the MSM and other 3 letter propaganda...and base my conversations on their talking points...unlike...ahem...some...

Frankly...Sir...I find such slavish devotion to the regime...repugnant...

Why anyone would wish to fill their head with such...programming...is gasp...amusing to behold...

All of my...ahem...fans...on this site...cause me endless mirth...

All because your lockstep...somnambulism...leaves no room for reason...or any different perspectives...

So...take your best shot...I's a big boy...

Big...I tells ya...

YouSir

I wasn't "taking a shot" at you. If it appeared that way, my apologies. It was not my intention.

I was making a point regarding terror attacks perpetrated against both sides. And it's my contention that the list of terror attacks against Israel is far greater than the list of terror attacks against Palestine. If you have supporting evidence to the contrary, please post it and I will admit the error of that post.

a reply to: gortex
I’m not so sure your poll is all that trustworthy either.🤷‍♂️. Also that surveys is published by the Arab Barometer and the Stanford (very antisemitic school) article is featuring a Arabic dean in a hajib from Princeton . I’m sure there’s no bias there right? They’re going to paint whatever picture they can to fit their narrative. Do you think they want Palestinians to be looked at poorly? No, they’re going to do everything they can to prevent that and paint a purty picture.

Anyways, I pretty much loathe polls because they can all be manipulated to fit a certain narrative. Although, for what it’s worth the majority of all the polls I’ve seen on the subject has been between a 70-75% approval rating for Hamas.

Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔

Almost three in four Palestinians believe the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israel was correct, and the ensuing Gaza war has lifted support for the Islamist group both there and in the West Bank, a survey from a respected Palestinian polling institute found.

www.reuters.com...
All polls aside, why hasn’t the Palestinians ousted Hamas? Why haven’t they demanded the hostages be released? They’ve the manpower to do something.

originally posted by: xuenchen
LOL perfect PR cover story to "justify" the new Gaza Port concept.

It never stops does it 🤣

Oh-so perfect 😁


Gaza: Airdropped Aid Packages Kill 5 Civilians, 10 Injured

Good gawd, I don’t believe that for a second. 10 injured, 5 killed….please. Of course the dead are all children.

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: gortex

Why are you ignoring the December poll?

Why are you ignoring the Palestinians celebrating the October 7th massacre?

Did you also ignore the ‘dancing Israelis’ on 9/11?

You are aware the dancing ISRAELIS was fake news started by Al-Manar, a Lebanese television station linked to Hezbollah, was one of the main sources for the false claims. And of course you want to believe them so do no research.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: network dude

Isn't he "OUR" God?
Or do you not believe in him, yet use him for your point making?

He's your God , I've made no secret of the fact I don't follow any religion or man and yes I was using him to make a point , those who claim to be Christians while supporting the forced starving of a population are in my opinion just claiming to be Christians , practice what you preach is more than just a saying.

Actual Christians can see the bigger picture,

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), which has nearly 4 million congregants, denounced both Hamas and Israel’s retaliation, but said that the “power exerted against all Palestinian people – through the occupation, the expansion of settlements and the escalating violence – must be called out as a root cause of what we are witnessing”.
thehill.com...

Sadly you have forsaken the teachings of your prophet to worship at the alter of another , your God will be your Judge.

Good luck.

We are to treat others as we treat ourselves correct? I would expect to be treated the same way the palestinians/hamas is being treated right now if I was responsible for what was going on.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab

originally posted by: Dalamax

So sick of hearing the “genocide” nonsense from people that can’t think their way out of a paper bag, it’s propaganda and a lie. People that keep regurgitating this bs need to do some research and educate themselves on some facts about Israel and Gaza.

a reply to: KrustyKrab

What does ww2 have to do with this thread? Israel didn’t exist and Gaza wasn’t involved 🤔

You did post a fine example of showing your dirty underbelly though.

No one’s talking about ww2 but you, pay attention.

You do know that Israel existed alongside judea right? It was always Israel,because the romans renaming it to the AREA of palestine was a genocidal warcrime. It took a long time till that was corrected.

I have a really bad feeling that Biden is creating a huge mess. In order to build the port the US would have to send troops to provide security. These troops then have to deal with suicide bombers and all it takes is them to get lucky once and you have massive US casualties. Which means of course more troops and then US soldiers are in a war in Gaza. Now even if they manage to get this port built I see one of 2 outcomes. First being as desperation sets in Gazans in mass attacking the port in hopes of securing food etc. Or option 2 to flee Israel the population overwhelms the capacity of said facility to the point it breaks down and nothing moves through it.

Be much smarter to set up an area of designated air drops. This way you don't need to worry about security. Simply tell them where and when the next drop shipment will be. This is how they handled supplies in Syria.

a reply to: dragonridr

All Biden advisers are oligarchs they are not even paid from government funds, They all represent the elite owners of the biggest corporations. So obviously it will all be about Israel.