Pot causing all the heart disease and strokes

a reply to: pennylane123

We have an alzheimers/dementia patient at large...pretending to be the president of the USA. They should catch and sedate him......nevermind he's already sedated they just need to catch him and return him back to the home.

Let's go Brandon!!

So glad you agree!!! Bless your heart!

Remember the SNL shark coming to the door and Gilda Radnor saying, there was a man eating shark in NYC , but the shark makes up lie after lie until she finally buys one of them.

THAT is how the Cabal works, lie after lie until someone falls for it. You buy what their selling, and you will regret it. Do your own research with your pot head friends. See if you agree.

a reply to: nerbot

Cannabis isn't really physically addictive unlike tobacco.

From memory hash seemed to mess people up a lot more than modern strains but maybe that was down to processing and additives more than strength. Don't get me wrong the THC percentage these days in some strains is stupid high but at the same time many people are using processed products which are basically concentrates and refined THC.

We need more warnings about poisonous depressing Alcohol before Researchers point fingers at something that is basically a mind opening relaxant.

Bridge jumping seems to be a sport that's on the rise where I live and the majority of them are young adults. Often drunk or in a state of anguish whilst being treated with those prescribed mood altering chemicals, the ones that are proven to often make the youth worse...

Honestly, most users I've known didn't develop issues from the use. It was family, circumstances, experience and society that caused and cemented the thinking patterns in their heads. Cannabis just gave them the ability to think stronger but it doesn't exactly make you think in a particular way. That's all on the individual. Kids these days need role models and teachers they respect who aren't teaching terrible habits lest they'll require excessive work or a psychologist to sort out debilitating thought patterns, so do adults too.

I mean, it's not like pot can be laced with anything.

/rolls eyes

a reply to: pennylane123

Was there a heart disease problem prior to 2020?

Maybe the vax has exacerbated it, I’m not sure. But last I checked it was the number one cause of death before that too.

a reply to: annonentity

The newer man made strains of marijuana have gotten a lot stronger and lots of people are smoking almost continuous.
Like most things, to much of something can lead to problems in the long run.

Most older research tended to look at the related mental health issuses in long term smoking, and not other health issues, now it's become legal in many places, I imagine we'll see more of the long term side effects concerning other issues.

a reply to: rickymouse

Face it, when the government makes something legal these days, it benefits the government more than us.

In my state, the citizens forced a ballot initiative, voters overwhelming approved the measure, and the State was forced to enact a medical cannabis program. If we legalized it for recreational use, it will happen the same way. And of course, there's the Federal government that still has cannabis scheduled as a schedule 1 substance, even after decades of medical use within several states and legalization within DC.

Notice it wasn't made legal till it became super potent and most of the strains are gmo.

I have not seen any evidence of GMO cannabis, but I will look at any you have.

Cannabis, certainly has become more potent over the years, but as far as I know, that's mostly due to selective breeding, which is not the same as genetic engineering.

I did learn that modern growers have learned how to use a variety of hormones to achieve specific desired results, but I doubt much has been done to research the effects these increased hormones levels may have on patients and users.

Pot causing all the heart disease and strokes

Cannabis use, and smoking in general, can be harmful to the cardiovascular system, especially long-term use, but we all should know that it's not the cause of "all heart disease and stokes".

It's true that cannabis use, especially long-term use, may increase the chances of heart disease and stroke, but the same can be said about things like tobacco use, eating processed foods, alcohol use, vaccine injury, being overweight, taking certain prescription medications, having high stress, or spike protein in the body.


There's also a potential invisible boogie man out there referred to as "stroking agents", which are forms of chemical or biological warfare.

originally posted by: MauiWaui

Human history is riddled with drug use. It's only been the last 40 years that we've come up with these concoctions that can literally kill you in one dose. We've used morphine since the first world war but it wasn't fentanyl levels of toxicity.

To say that marijuana use is the cause of the uptick in deaths is literally the funniest thing I've heard this year so far.

Are they literally trying to repeat the 1920's-1930's reefer madness?

When you didn't think it could get anymore clown world, here we are!

I think what is clown world is people who think smoking Pot doesn't do the same damn things as cigarettes. Cigarettes are so bad, but you know the burning of Pot is so good for you. I have always thought that people who think like that live in the 50s mentality of when even doctors said smoking is good, well... ALL smoking is bad...

BTW I don't think I heard them say that pot is the cause of any upticks in deaths, I might have missed it. It seemed it was more of a here are your higher risks if you smoke pot.

The other thing to take away from anything like this with percentages usage even with what we see with the vaccine is we do not know what 60% represents. If the norm was 5 in 10,000 and smoking pot is now 8 in 10,000 then there is your 60% increase. People like to use the percentages on all sides because it makes everything look way worse.

originally posted by: RAY1990

Cannabis isn't really physically addictive unlike tobacco.

I disagree, maybe not as addictive as tobacco which is said to be one of the worst, but many people are addicted to pot.

Bridge jumping seems to be a sport that's on the rise where I live and the majority of them are young adults. Often drunk or in a state of anguish whilst being treated with those prescribed mood altering chemicals, the ones that are proven to often make the youth worse...

The meds are really bad now... Too many young adults are on meds where they do not need to be. Pot tends to put people in a mild stupor all day where they just do not want to do anything... Not really a great mood all the time especially when you are young.

originally posted by: IndieA

Cannabis, certainly has become more potent over the years, but as far as I know, that's mostly due to selective breeding, which is not the same as genetic engineering.

I did learn that modern growers have learned how to use a variety of hormones to achieve specific desired results, but I doubt much has been done to research the effects these increased hormones levels may have on patients and users.

Dude, places like CO, OR, and WA have taken pot to new levels. They blow anything that Holland has ever done out of the water. Now when you order your buds you read the exact amounts of THC, CBD, smell, and what mood is reported by users... So it is Friday night and you want something that really winds you up with a great high, or you want to feel relaxed on Sunday and just meditate, they got it all down to the nats ass.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

Was there a heart disease problem prior to 2020?

Maybe the vax has exacerbated it, I’m not sure. But last I checked it was the number one cause of death before that too.

It's like you drive a road for 20 years and say to your wife where did that house over there come from and she says it's been there for decades. Much of what has come out of the pandemic are things that have always been around, but now people notice it and say wow that is new. Then with this higher focus and reporting with something that really hasn't changed is seen as a big increase.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I disagree, maybe not as addictive as tobacco which is said to be one of the worst, but many people are addicted to pot.

I'm a user who has quit several times and aided others in doing the same. I could probably argue for cannabis being physically addictive but it doesn't tick any of the traditional boxes when it comes to withdrawal. Psychological addiction and dependence is a reality though.

The meds are really bad now... Too many young adults are on meds where they do not need to be. Pot tends to put people in a mild stupor all day where they just do not want to do anything... Not really a great mood all the time especially when you are young.

Yeah... The stuff is really useful under the right circumstances but I do see a lot of pot heads convincing themselves it helps. I'm not trained in anything so my words aren't really worth much although I would say the main issue I've always seen is thought patterns. It doesn't matter what chemicals are running through you if you're always adopting the same thought patterns. Anything will aggravate circumstances like that from caffeine to an awkward stare.

Mental illness doesn't come from nowhere, it's developed so in my eyes it always comes back to upbringing and a lack of positivity in the individual. It's seemingly relatively rare for people to be born nuts or have a genetic predisposition that guarantees it.

The youth should be running about playing catchy-kiss or a slightly more grown up version of it at that age... Not worrying about existence and their place in it. I don't blame them for wanting to switch off in any way they can. Stuffs a lot worse than when I was a kid 20 years ago.

Ohhh, I love this. Biting the hand that feeds them and regurgitates their rediculous lies like “an epidemic of the unvaxxed. Follow the science man”.
Can’t you just see all those dirty hippies in Portland saying “ yea, it’s the weed causing…..hey, wait a minute” as reality dawns on their faces.

a reply to: RAY1990

Weed is much, much stronger these days with stuff like Skunk, so I'm told.

It's not good for mental health.

originally posted by: MauiWaui
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Just got a response from Willie Nelson. The only true fact checker in this arena.

FACT!

Ummm...you do realize...that not everyone contracts cancer...right...?

Right...?

Yet...strangely enough...cancer is a thing...






YouSir

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RAY1990

Weed is much, much stronger these days with stuff like Skunk, so I'm told.

It's not good for mental health.

Unless you have your stuff together in life so one can get through the paranoid delusional stage which today's pot has in it, or our cannabinoid receptors are rusty.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Which is a shame.

I’ll be the first to say that COVID was fumbled. The government lacked transparency, contradicted itself, and got some things wrong.

In the early days they said don’t buy masks, the healthcare professionals need them and unless you know how to seal them they won’t work. Then the mandates.

They called the shot a vaccine even though it’s not, it’s more like the flu shot with far lower efficacy. (Even I’m guilty of interchanging that verbiage because of its wide use)

But people use all of that as a blank check to say the government/science is always wrong, and make claims without much or any evidence.

So now many ignore things we know are bad for our health while blaming everything on the shot. And god help us if a more serious pandemic occurs… Many will discount it out the gate. And I think that’s incredibly likely since global travel has made it to where most of the planet exchanges people every day, and we’ve had several pandemics since that reality.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: annonentity

The newer man made strains of marijuana have gotten a lot stronger and lots of people are smoking almost continuous.
Like most things, to much of something can lead to problems in the long run.

Most older research tended to look at the related mental health issuses in long term smoking, and not other health issues, now it's become legal in many places, I imagine we'll see more of the long term side effects concerning other issues.

Ummm...oh crap...

I actually agree with you...

Sun does indeed shine on a dogs ass every once in a while...

The strains they produce today...are extremely potent and concentrated...and people smoke them all day long and into the night...it's no wonder they might cause problems...

They also vape them in their oil and dab rigs...and there are questionable methods for extracting the THC as well...
The professional shops use a heated press and vacuum chambers for extraction and off gassing...rather than stripping with ethanol or other solvents...or butane...







YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

Ummm...oh crap...

I actually agree with you...

Sun does indeed shine on a dogs ass every once in a while...

You made feel a little sick....
But I also agree about the vaping issue too!!
A lot of youngsters (under 16) are using vapes instead of the traditional 'joint' or bong, who knows what the long term use of these things will be?

I need to go and shower now.

originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: rickymouse


It's true that cannabis use, especially long-term use, may increase the chances of heart disease and stroke, but the same can be said about things like tobacco use, eating processed foods, alcohol use, vaccine injury, being overweight, taking certain prescription medications, having high stress, or spike protein in the body.

Back in the seventies I kind of toked a lot. I had no stress, and because I spent most of my money on cannabis instead of eating, I was not over weight. But the only time I didn't live off of highly processed food was when I went to eat at my parents. I would go there maybe once a week to have dinner. My idea at the time of a healthy meal was KFC. I also believed tacos were health foods because there was a tiny bit of lettuce and tomato on them.

I had a very high IQ and wanted to dampen it so I could fit into society with others in my area. I liked fitting in. So I did things to make it easier to fit in. I liked hanging around with regular people. I had a very high IQ and I was told I should go into physics or work at a place like NASA or something, my IQ exceeded the IQ of almost all doctors, but I wanted to be a surgeon at the time. When I discovered how corrupt that field was and that most people in it were going in it for wealth or prestige, I quit college. I did not believe I could keep from getting hooked on myself or get mesmerized by wealth back then.

I also found that it was more interesting hanging around with all sorts of people, it would have been boring to hang around with a bunch of physicists or highly intelligent people all the time. Why would I want to hang around with people like me...reinforcing my intellect and avoiding most people in the world. It was fun learning about all kinds of people, I analyzed everyone. Pot helped me to fit into society by dumbing me down a bit. I learned many different professions, getting bored with a profession after I got good at it. A friend once told me to stop overthinking things and just enjoy life...he was right.

I also chose foods to eat that dumbed me down so I could fit in.....there are lots of them out there.

I do not regret anything I did or learned in my life. You can learn from everyone, even someone who is not very smart can teach you something. I have learned some of the most important things I know from some people who were not very smart. Also, we have a life to live, why should we just focus on one thing. Being that I have done many kinds of work in my life, I can strike up a conversation with people of all trades. I can have conversations with doctors, scientists, mechanics, farmers, construction workers, electricians and plumbers, and lawyers and judges and even politicians and business owners. I get along with all kinds of people, from people on welfare to millionaires. Talking to them on a one to one basis about their professions and hobbies. I like being able to get along with everyone and dislike negativity. I have also learned to turn a conversation away from negativity, but lately, it seems like half our population is discussing negativity these days, a trend that is kind of making me want to not hang around with people much anymore. I never liked polarization, I like talking to church people and also with people in a bar or at parties and treat them as equals to me.

I was told when I was young that since I was smarter than most people I should try to help these people to make it through life, my father told me never to get stuck on myself. I have altered people's perception to make them fit into society for almost fifty years...but now that people believe they are better than others because they have a degree from college, it is hard to combat their being stuck on themselves which means they feel they are better than others. I get frustrated.

That is the story of my life. Our society is falling apart in America because we are being convinced we have to take sides about everything,