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originally posted by: Vermilion
originally posted by: Euronymous2625
originally posted by: network dude
You have men foaming at the mouth over making sure women have the right to kill babies. Good for them.
At the same time, it's always men who are the loudest voices against abortion.
Interesting opinion.
How did you come to that conclusion?
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: Vermilion
originally posted by: Euronymous2625
originally posted by: network dude
You have men foaming at the mouth over making sure women have the right to kill babies. Good for them.
At the same time, it's always men who are the loudest voices against abortion.
Interesting opinion.
How did you come to that conclusion?
I wondered the same thing... I always see pro abortion guys and lesbians who don't have sex with guys screaming the loudest about abortion rights. There was that one time several years back where a white dude put a gas can by an abortion clinic though, and that's all the media focused on to sell the idea that normal men screamed the loudest.
originally posted by: Venkuish1
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: Venkuish1
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Venkuish1
Indeed.
My two cents, a woman's body is her own concern.
And to think otherwise is rather arrogant in the extreme.
Jailing physicians/doctors who may assist in an abortion will only drive them underground leading to unsafe backroom terminations carried out by people who are less than medical health-trained professionals.
To be fair many of the US States have laws that are similar to the laws regarding abortion in Europe. But the problem is a good number of them have made it almost impossible for women to have an abortion and this will lead to the problems you mentioned. At least traveling to other States is still allowed (!) for the purpose of abortion.
How is that a problem? The people of each state voted for or against abortion as it should be. In France they voted for it and put it into law.
I am for voting like I said earlier but voting doesn't always take place. In France there has been an overwhelming support around 85% of the public in favour of the move.
originally posted by: Venkuish1
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: Vermilion
originally posted by: Euronymous2625
originally posted by: network dude
You have men foaming at the mouth over making sure women have the right to kill babies. Good for them.
At the same time, it's always men who are the loudest voices against abortion.
Interesting opinion.
How did you come to that conclusion?
I wondered the same thing... I always see pro abortion guys and lesbians who don't have sex with guys screaming the loudest about abortion rights. There was that one time several years back where a white dude put a gas can by an abortion clinic though, and that's all the media focused on to sell the idea that normal men screamed the loudest.
The post is irrelevant.
Read my link from the BBC in the OP.
85% of the public supported the move.
I always see pro abortion guys and lesbians who don't have sex with guys screaming the loudest about abortion rights.
originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: LSU2018
I always see pro abortion guys and lesbians who don't have sex with guys screaming the loudest about abortion rights.
Doesn't matter. It's the principle of it all. Like a person that supports the 2nd Amendment, doesn't personally want to own an AR-15, but rages at the concept of it not being an option, even an unused one.
originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: network dude
Most votes end up being rather close. Meaning, a certain population wants control over their ability to goven their own reproductive systems.
You see it from the angle of its just killing babies. Most women see it as an act of having self autonomy. I'm not a woman, and I also don't want to control other people, so I tend to lean towards pro choice, most people I speak too about this subject tend to lean in that direction as well.
As for the sway in public opinion, I'm not sure that has much to do with it. There's not many pro choice campaigns swaying public opinion. I see tons of pro life campaigns tho.
originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Degradation33
It's the principle of it all.
Exactly.
Murder is murder.
Btw, comparing the 2nd Amendment and ‘abortion rights’ is laughable.
France has been circling the drain for quite awhile.
This only speeds up the completed flush.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: network dude
Most votes end up being rather close. Meaning, a certain population wants control over their ability to goven their own reproductive systems.
You see it from the angle of its just killing babies. Most women see it as an act of having self autonomy. I'm not a woman, and I also don't want to control other people, so I tend to lean towards pro choice, most people I speak too about this subject tend to lean in that direction as well.
As for the sway in public opinion, I'm not sure that has much to do with it. There's not many pro choice campaigns swaying public opinion. I see tons of pro life campaigns tho.
I'm a monster, and I worry about the choice of the child, the one who can't make an impassioned speech about his/her right to exist. But if you kill them early enough, the little bastards can't say a damn thing about it. amirite
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Venkuish1
When you impose a law that is dependent on other people, it is not a right but a form of obligation, or slavery at the whim of the state.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Venkuish1
When you impose a law that is dependent on other people, it is not a right but a form of obligation, or slavery at the whim of the state.
LOL
You make your own bullets, do you? For your own homemade firearm, that you yourself made from hewn lumber and forged steel in your garage?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Venkuish1
If there was such a referendum or constitutional amendment put on the national ballot right now, on the same ballot as this year's presidential race, it would overwhelmingly pass here, in the USA, too.