France makes abortion a constitutional right in historic vote

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Venkuish1

Good for France and good for woman rights.

It's a sad state of affairs when France is ahead of us on women's rights....lol

originally posted by: VoiceofReality

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Venkuish1

Good for France and good for woman rights.

It's a sad state of affairs when France is ahead of us on women's rights....lol

I don't know if you are sarcastic but most countries in Europe and the Western World are ahead of the US in women's rights and on the issue of human rights. For example Europe has abolished the death penalty and there are no lethal injections, hangings, firing squads. Guantanamo type prisons don't exist either.

In most countries in the Western World you will still get healthcare even if you are poor or homeless.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: VoiceofReality

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Venkuish1

Good for France and good for woman rights.

It's a sad state of affairs when France is ahead of us on women's rights....lol

I don't know if you are sarcastic but most countries in Europe and the Western World are ahead of the US in women's rights and on the issue of human rights. For example Europe has abolished the death penalty and there are no lethal injections, hangings, firing squads. Guantanamo type prisons don't exist either.

In most countries in the Western World you will still get healthcare even if you are poor or homeless.

Do you find women's rights more important than human rights?

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: VoiceofReality

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Venkuish1

Good for France and good for woman rights.

It's a sad state of affairs when France is ahead of us on women's rights....lol

I don't know if you are sarcastic but most countries in Europe and the Western World are ahead of the US in women's rights and on the issue of human rights. For example Europe has abolished the death penalty and there are no lethal injections, hangings, firing squads. Guantanamo type prisons don't exist either.

In most countries in the Western World you will still get healthcare even if you are poor or homeless.

Do you find women's rights more important than human rights?

What's the difference?

And don't tell me its a clump of cells.

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: LSU2018

Nor do you have a right to anyone else's body, that should include the body of a child growing inside you.

NO. No BODY has a right to another's BODY.

It's a simple concept.

That baby’s body is not their body.

Who's body is it?

A parasite is by definition of another species from the host.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: VoiceofReality

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Venkuish1

Good for France and good for woman rights.

It's a sad state of affairs when France is ahead of us on women's rights....lol

I don't know if you are sarcastic but most countries in Europe and the Western World are ahead of the US in women's rights and on the issue of human rights. For example Europe has abolished the death penalty and there are no lethal injections, hangings, firing squads. Guantanamo type prisons don't exist either.

In most countries in the Western World you will still get healthcare even if you are poor or homeless.

Do you find women's rights more important than human rights?

What's the difference?

And don't tell me its a clump of cells.

Woman: an adult female person.

Human: a human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal.

And just so you know, what begins as an egg and forms into a clump of cells, starts developing human characteristics between 6 and 9 weeks.

a reply to: Vermilion

I don’t agree to killing a baby, ever.

First, we don't agree on what is a "baby". I don't agree that a fertilized egg is a baby, neither is an embryo or a fetus. A baby is born. So, there's that.

If a woman’s body can’t handle a pregnancy it’s not the baby’s fault.

It's not a matter of fault. If a pregnancy is threatening a woman' life or limb, she has every right to defend he life or limb from said pregnancy.

So why would the baby be punished?

Nobody is being punished.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: LSU2018

Nor do you have a right to anyone else's body, that should include the body of a child growing inside you.

NO. No BODY has a right to another's BODY.

It's a simple concept.

That baby’s body is not their body.

Who's body is it?

The unborn baby's body.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: VoiceofReality

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Venkuish1

Good for France and good for woman rights.

It's a sad state of affairs when France is ahead of us on women's rights....lol

I don't know if you are sarcastic but most countries in Europe and the Western World are ahead of the US in women's rights and on the issue of human rights. For example Europe has abolished the death penalty and there are no lethal injections, hangings, firing squads. Guantanamo type prisons don't exist either.

In most countries in the Western World you will still get healthcare even if you are poor or homeless.

Do you find women's rights more important than human rights?

What's the difference?

And don't tell me its a clump of cells.

Woman: an adult female person.

Human: a human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal.

And just so you know, what begins as an egg and forms into a clump of cells, starts developing human characteristics between 6 and 9 weeks.

I care about the woman's RIGHT OF CHOICE.

My first pregnancy was a spontaneous abortion. Had to fish the little "pink peanut" out of the toilet.

2nd and 3rd -- living children brought to term.

4th -- elective abortion.

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I can speak from personal experience. Can you?

You nor anyone else has the right to tell me what I can and cannot do in any of the forementioned experiences.

Self-righteous people need to keep it in their own home.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: LSU2018

Nor do you have a right to anyone else's body, that should include the body of a child growing inside you.

NO. No BODY has a right to another's BODY.

It's a simple concept.

That baby’s body is not their body.

Who's body is it?

The unborn baby's body.

What happened to the woman's body? Did the fetus eat it?

a reply to: Venkuish1

... Here... This is the last time i prove you wrong..

Viability, as the word has been used in the United States constitutional law since Roe v. Wade, is the potential of the fetus to survive outside the uterus after birth, natural or induced, when supported by up-to-date medicine.

Pay special attention to "as the word has been used"

Very much a new definition of the word "viability" and first used in a court case...

Huh... How about that...

originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: Venkuish1

... Hee... This is the last time i prove you wrong..

Viability, as the word has been used in the United States constitutional law since Roe v. Wade, is the potential of the fetus to survive outside the uterus after birth, natural or induced, when supported by up-to-date medicine.

That's what fetal viability means and I am happy you now understand the meaning of the term. We can all go back in this thread and see who said what. Your post makes things even worse because the last few pages haven't disappeared. You remind me of the creationists in a thread of mine who don't know the basic definitions but still try to teach others science in their total confusion.

Fetal viability is a medical term and not political. It's the ability of the fetus to survive outside the uterus. Standard definition. And the courts use it just as they should be using scientific and medical definitions.

a reply to: Venkuish1

I think the argument is trying to say it's a made up term to justify killing babies. The word "viability" was conjured specifically for abortions.

You must feel for the sanctity of human life! Even though the embryo still looks similar to a house pet (at similar stage of development) when most abortions take place.







But which one is created in the image of god?

Two of those are eaten at restaurants in Vietnam. Thịt mèo "little tiger" and thịt chó. And the other one is eaten after a rugby team's plane crashed.

One of those will become absolutely distinguishable as human.

And because that eventually happens, it is more important than the other developing life pictured, despite them being mostly interchangeable in appearance. And equal where the term "life" is applied.

I move for disambiguation that only human life is sacred, and even then, a mother's life, and freedom of choice, takes a back seat to the embryo that still looks mostly indistinguishable from future Vietnamese food, because it is the life most selectively important.

a reply to: Venkuish1

In changing its constitution, France is reinforcing a 1975 law that legalized abortion in the country. The time limit on elective abortion is set at 14 weeks of pregnancy.


Don't pretend this is like the lunatics in the states that want to be able to kill a baby up to inception...... www.wsj.com...

originally posted by: Jeff70
a reply to: Venkuish1

Don't pretend this is like the lunatics in the states that want to be able to kill a baby up to inception......

And who exactly wants to do that?

Do you have a link?

a reply to: Annee

And who exactly wants to do that?

Don't you know? LOL
Anyone who supports contraception wants kill a baby up to inception!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Annee

And who exactly wants to do that?

Don't you know? LOL
Anyone who supports contraception wants kill a baby up to inception!

I get so tired of being told -- by the Right -- what I think.

Many nations apart from USA do consider medical care a human right.

a reply to: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: Venkuish1

... Here... This is the last time i prove you wrong..

Viability, as the word has been used in the United States constitutional law since Roe v. Wade, is the potential of the fetus to survive outside the uterus after birth, natural or induced, when supported by up-to-date medicine.

Pay special attention to "as the word has been used"

Very much a new definition of the word "viability" and first used in a court case...

Huh... How about that...

As used in constitutional law. Not as created.

The Supreme Court adopted the conventional medical view of when the fetus would survive outside the womb.

God has already assigned us rights at birth.

That which is not allowed is simply not possible.

Who are they to decide on your freedom!?


As for right and wrong, and when someone should oppose another's expression of freedom, well this is up to everyone really.

But is the normalization of infant murder to be celebrated!?

I think not.

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Sad world.