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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Sookiechacha
All secondary because the issue was authority, not procedure.
So what result were you looking for? What specifics and wording would have made ya happy? ♾️
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Sookiechacha
All secondary because the issue was authority, not procedure.
So what result were you looking for? What specifics and wording would have made ya happy? ♾️
So you agree with me, SCOTUS did not answer the question?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI
Absolutely nothing you just posted shows SCOTUS ruling on whether or not the Office of the President of the United States is eligible for disqualification under Section 3.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Sookiechacha
All secondary because the issue was authority, not procedure.
So what result were you looking for? What specifics and wording would have made ya happy? ♾️
So you agree with me, SCOTUS did not answer the question?
The issue isn't settled until SCOTUS, not you, says it's settled.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen
Did the original CO case and/or CO Supreme Court make Congress an issue ? That might help your arguments.
What arguments? You're not making any sense. Do you even know what my "arguments" are? Can you articulate them?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
I know that.
My point is, because they failed to answer that question, the issue isn't settled. I predicted that because it isn't settled, if Trump wins the electoral vote, on Jan 6th, 2025, congress members will object to states' votes based on Trump being an insurrectionist, and ultimately The House of Representatives will decide the election.
There is a recent Supreme Court opinion discussing the scope of the Constitution's "Officers of the United States"-language. In Free Enter. Fund v. Pub. Co. Accounting Oversight Bd. (2010), Chief Justice Roberts observed that "[t]he people do not vote for the 'Officers of the United States.'" Rather, "officers of the United States" are appointed exclusively pursuant to Article II, Section 2 procedures. It follows that the President, who is an elected official, is not an "officer of the United States.
The Commissions Clause provides that "all the officers of the United States" receive presidential commissions. (emphasis added) All means all. This structure explains why appointed executive-branch and judicial-branch officers receive commissions, but there is no record of any elected official, whether a President, Vice President or a member of Congress, ever receiving a [presidential] commission. The reason is simple: Elected officials like the President are not "Officers of the United States.
The Impeachment Clause, Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution of 1788, expressly applies to the President. The Impeachment Clause provides:
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
But the jurisdictional element of Section 3 does not specifically mention the presidency. Instead of using express language akin to the Impeachment Clause, the jurisdictional element of Section 3 applies to:
A "person . . . who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States."
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen
Did the original CO case and/or CO Supreme Court make Congress an issue ? That might help your arguments.
What arguments? You're not making any sense. Do you even know what my "arguments" are? Can you articulate them?
originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
Not sure how reliable this is but ........
Assassin Targeting Trump Allies Is on the Loose, FBI Warns
Newsweek
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Xtrozero
I think an insurrection has taken place, imho.
Only it is the left that has actually succeeded.
Now they're just projecting.
originally posted by: arcticshuffle
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen
Did the original CO case and/or CO Supreme Court make Congress an issue ? That might help your arguments.
What arguments? You're not making any sense. Do you even know what my "arguments" are? Can you articulate them?
Pretty sure you’re responsible for about 15 pages of this thread because of asking this insufferable question 20 times.
But that was your goal, so there’s that.